Theirs a five page thread on here that states "not everyone has a soul", and that is very invalid and unlikely. Your soul is you will,intellect, and motivation. So I guess when someones without a soul will, intellect and motivation is absent....A lot of people get mixed up with the spirit and soul.
LOL!! Nice one Lola. :)
Hahahaha!
I'm gonna use that one. :D
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Who went down those tubes, who?! Was it Mario? That one guy better be careful looking down there, one of those teethed plants is liable to chomp his face off!
LOL @Mac
Can I please have a straight answer...
Quote from: Neutrino4344Can I please have a straight answer...
Be sure to create a sentence with one of those special question marks first, then you shall recieve an answer, maybe :think: Let me go out on a limb here and guess your question based on your first post. Did you mean to ask...
Is the soul made up of a person's will, intellect, and motivation?
Runlola,
Why's it always gotta be me? Moo!
Can I please have a straight question?
Bloodsong
y'all are sick
Coming from you, I'll count that as a complement!
Bloodsong
Quote from: Neutrino4344Can I please have a straight answer...
Ditto to what Bloodsong asked.
For one to have an answer, straight or otherwise, one must first ask a question. I saw no question in the original post, only a statement.
I think itd be nice to get a question at all, no matter its straightness.
Where did Cookie Monster come from!?! That is really cool, Lola.
Bloodsong
I wouldn't be pushing this point, except that it happens so frequently...I have to wonder...from whence the behavior stems?!?
Whether a question was asked or not, whether it made sense or not...is beside the point. Two options are available that seem most logical
1) (involving interest) is to respond/engage in a manner that is in fitting with the original post.
2) (if you're not interested) = don't post at all.
What happened instead is this typical behavior I'm coining the "AP Pack Attack". Three moderators felt compelled to jump on Neutrino4344 butt. THREE!?! You can all take your time defending yourself if you wish, but that's just plain ridiculous in my opinion.
All I can assume is that people here are bored and trying to stir up some s--t, or that some folk that have been here for awhile are tired with going over the same subjects time and time again. either way as far as the moderators are concerned...maybe it's time to sit down and take a good long look at what the position entails, and whether or not your heart is still in it?
again...to me, it just feels extremely deviant.
maybe there should be limited terms for moderators. three months perhaps?!? maybe it should be something the entire forum gets an opportunity to vote on. keep the whole thing in check. keep it humble. mix it up a little?!?
i know there are a lot of dedicated AP members who think it's great just the way it is, but i'm not one of them. i see a lot of areas for improvement, but mostly it's with attitudes...not the forum itself...and a dozen or so new smileys ain't gonna cut it. i have a sense that nothings going to change...still i refuse to sit idly by while the pack nips at fellow members just for the fun of it. i think the response on this (if any) will prove interesting. who feels it necessary to defend themselves, and who will try and turn on me to take the focus off themselves.
on the other hand...not responding is just as sad.
Sincerely
The Den Mother
(at heart, not in status)
I think sombody wants to be a mod...
You may live in a world where people vote and everybody gets a turn, but thats not the way it works on the internet. You cant pass around the ability to delete posts and all those great powers every few months cause you dont like whos mod. And nobody is attacking anyone, you start babbling on about somthing that nobody can see what youre saying, we are going to tell you about it. The internet isnt a place where everything is nice and everything is fair, its based on senority and who you know. If sombody is friends with the admin of a site, they can become admin or mods also. Its just the way it works, theres not much you can do about it. You cant just walk into a forum and become a mod, you must be here for a while, learn how things work, be an active member etc. I think the system is working as good as it can while keeping the peace. Its not like theres a bunch of flamming going on or anything. And sadly, if a mod dissagrees with you, then you are at their mercy they could ban you and theres nothing you can do, youre a thousand miles away and with the click of a buttion you can be disconnected.
Im talking in the most extreme cases though, not all mods(and certainly none here) are ruthless and cruel like ive seen on some forums. You better be glad its as good as it is. We are allowed alot of room to argue and stuff.
QuoteI think somebody wants to be a mod...
WRONGski! Sadly mistaken...I've got my own forum that keeps me pretty busy, where there are no mods. Possibly down the road there might be a need for a few if it ever gets that large, but i wouldn't allow them to nip at other members in that manner. just bcuz someone is elected to moderate, doesn't give them (imo) the right to badger or throw their weight around.
mod's need to be moderated as well, and lately this forum is pretty much without parents...if you get my drift.
...judging from your response i'm guessing you don't want to.
that's fine. i couldn't care one way or the other...they were just suggestions. not ultimatums for perfection and absolute union.
that's crazy talk! not the way it works online, not the way it works in real life, not the way it even works in the astral. but you felt compelled to state your facts...and that's good enough for me.
my point again...as it will most likely get buried under blather is...
THREE mod's in A ROW...jumped on his s--t! 'nough said.
blah blah blah
nobody cares. :blahblah:
QuoteTHREE mod's in A ROW...jumped on his s--t! 'nough said.
Hiya sweety,
You were waiting for this one weren't you. :wink:
We've never made any secret that we don't permit preaching, especially of the "I've got the only truth and everyone else is deluded" kind. That's why we've had to clamp down here. It's happened before, and most definitely not just for christian preachers. Nobody is welcome here who wants to steamroller the beliefs of others just so they can lay down their own.
In the past ohh...10 months or so, there's been quite a turnover in mods. Inguma, Frank, Nay and I are the only old-timers left, In fact Inguma is the
real old-timer here. He's been a mod pretty much from the start.
Adrian looks for people with known expertise in particular topic areas, and have proven to have a generally good and fair nature.
Don't forget, just because we've got the word "moderator" below our name doesn't mean we can't engage in debates and be as opinionated as anyone else.
Also, we are ourselves policed. Adrian is the supreme being of this forum, and cares a great deal about what happens here. Don't think that a moderator can't be given the sack for inappropriate behaviour. Its happened!
Besides, I like to have my posts picked apart by someone else. It keeps me thinking, and keeps my ideas from going stale. Whether we care to admit it or not, so much of what we are comes from reflections of the thoughts of others.
Please rest assured dear lady, if we are pricked, we too bleed.
:smile:
Blessings,
James.
Souljah,
You wanted to know why I made the comment about taking your "sick" comment as a complement. Yes, I am taking this out of PM world as a way to make a point so that people here won't have to repeat each other!
First off, the original post was commented on a few times, we asked for clarification in so many words. We only got it from each other, not from the original poster, so forgive us if we sink into a bit of sarcastic cynicism, it happens when you have quite a few people of similar intelligence and tastes around each other.
As for stirring up s--t, you have some nerve accusing others of that from some of your post history! You always hide behind the "I was taken incorrectly" angle, but even those posts are blatantly caustic! Before you accuse others of being immoral, take a look in the mirror.
You remind me of those in power in the United States right now, if they accuse someone else of something, you can bet they got the accusation from their own personal history, just like you!
So, how can I take your calling me sick as a complement, easy. I looked at what I said prior to the comment, then I looked at the comment, thought about it, and decided that the accusation was baseless and just plain wrong!
As a final point, you asked if I could argue my point in an intelligent manner in your message to me. I placed the response here as I know you are already biased against me and any response is incorrect and ignorant, therefore, I ask for feedback from those willing to give it here in the public forum, is this intelligence at work, or just foolishness?
Bloodsong
Here's one straight answer, figure out an appropriate question.
Some souls are a body. All bodies are souls.
To me the question is not of having or not having a souls as that's all that anything is. The question is how well that fact is understood and even more significantly expressed.
2cents & L&L
Jouni
Quote from: Souljah333not the way it works online, not the way it works in real life, not the way it even works in the astral.
This isnt real life, its the internet :shock:. And yeah, youre pretty much at the mods and admin's disposal. If they agree that you get banned, or whatever, then thats what happens, no discussion no nothing. So it pretty much rests upon them. Theres nothing you can do to stop them, its not illegal its their forums, they can run it like they want. It may be unfair, but what can you do?
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Good citizens of the Astral Pulse,
It has come to our attention that there are elements within this community that consider the actions of the moderators to be unfair or unreasonable.
We are greatly disheartened to be recieving such reports, and wish to emphasise to all that we, the Moderators of the Astral Pulse Forum, have an ongoing commitment to ensuring fair and impartial treatment to all members, regardless of race, religion, political alignment, or opinion.
We would ask all members of this forum to work with us towards the goal of peace and harmony on this site. To that end, if you have knowledge of any member who has a dispute with our caring and generous methods, please notify us.
Members who bare grudges against our policies, should be considered dissidents, even terrorists, seeding their malicious propaganda amongst the good members of this site with the obvious attempt to pervert the truth, and cause unrest and dissobedience within this community.
Such evil elements must be cleansed from our wonderful society of love & light.
Hail and peace be with you all.
The Moderators.
NEIN!!
err... I mean, no.
:shifty:
dear james,
unfortunately i am unable to find the humor in that last post.
QuoteWe are greatly disheartened to be receiving such reports, and wish to emphasis to all that we, the Moderators of the Astral Pulse Forum, have an ongoing commitment to ensuring fair and impartial treatment to all members, regardless of race, religion, political alignment, or opinion.
first off i highly doubt any of you are greatly disheartened, and secondly a "commitment to fair & impartial treatment"?!? right (we are talking about AP aren't we?). such an appropriate use of symbolism though; for that you are congratulated.
the only thing i have reason to reply to is...
QuoteNobody is welcome here who wants to steamroller the beliefs of others just so they can lay down their own.
i'm not sure that Neutrino4344 (for instance) was even allowed due course to establish anything in the way of steamrolled beliefs, but it definitely didn't stop y'all from clamping down. that's the extent of my issues with "some" mod's...that the discussion is haulted before it even gets started. sure you can say the mod's are just members and can lay comment anywhere they please. however bcuz they carry some weight for newer members...when they come out of the gate in attack mode...i believe it sends a bad message, putting the original poster on the defensive (or curbing his/her path of thought).
in this behavior i find little that is intelligent, fair or impartial.
dear wronski feint,
QuoteIt may be unfair, but what can you do?
just be yourself...and speak up where you see injustice.
and last but not least...dear bloodsong,
QuoteAs for stirring up s--t, you have some nerve accusing others of that from some of your post history! You always hide behind the "I was taken incorrectly" angle, but even those posts are blatantly caustic! Before you accuse others of being immoral, take a look in the mirror.
1) i challenge you to find a thread where i ever threw the first punch! 2) i'm not hiding behind anything and 3) i never said anything about morals.
to me morals are a charade.
QuoteAs a final point, you asked if I could argue my point in an intelligent manner in your message to me. I placed the response here as I know you are already biased against me and any response is incorrect and ignorant, therefore, I ask for feedback from those willing to give it here in the public forum, is this intelligence at work, or just foolishness?
personally...just plain foolishness, but that's okay.
i asked you if you could "back it up"...not argue your point. (that's why i added the word "intelligent"). if you know i'm already against you...then you know nothing. as for taking this out of PM i personally didn't see the need to do that, but do as you will. you stated...in round-about-english why you did so...you're looking for support for your side. i hope you find it. i'm sure you will...more than that i hope you find the strength in your own understanding so you're not always subject to exterior support.
jilola seems to be the most intelligent here! bypassing the non-sense, and going back to the topic :exclamation:
Souljah, I may be wrong but you seem like the kind of person who likes to start arguments just to get some attention and look important.
Nobody "attacked" neutrino, he was the one to throw the first stone.
Instead of posting in the right topic he created a new one
claiming everyone who thought some people didn't have a soul were wrong (that post alone shows what kind of mentality he possesses).
In addition there are other posts in the world's religions forum he made in which he calls everyone who disagrees with him a "lost soul".
You're making a big deal out of nothing, i wonder why...
Quote from: Souljah333just be yourself...and speak up where you see injustice.
Youre not getting my point, you can speak all want, theres nothing you can do. They have the power to silence you. There is nothing you can do, and I think that scares you. Souljah, you like to be in control and act like you stand for somthing, which is why you spoke out to defend this member we were supposidly bashing. Well sorry, youre not in control, youre nevah gonna be in control, and in some attempt to control part of the net, you start your own forum where you enforce this set of shallow ethics so people dont feel so bad for not being in charge.
And I have no problem with how things run here, its quite good acutally. Its just people have to come in and make a big point like they are saving the world or somthing. There will be no peace as long as people like souljah are compelled to argue against everything.
Adun wrote:Quote
- I may be wrong but you seem like the kind of person who likes to start arguments just to get some attention and look important.
- Nobody "attacked" neutrino, he was the one to throw the first stone.
(Instead of posting in the right topic he created a new one
claiming everyone who thought some people didn't have a soul were wrong (that post alone shows what kind of mentality he possesses))
- In addition there are other posts in the world's religions forum he made in which he calls everyone who disagrees with him a "lost soul".
- Yes you're are wrong about me.
- I wasn't aware that a post was a 'stone throw'?!?
("the
right topic"? That as well is demonstration of your mentality.)
- I have no knowledge of the World Religions Forum.
Personally no interest.
QuoteYou're making a big deal out of nothing, i wonder why...
And you decided to step into the middle of it....wonder why?
Wronski Feint: Okay...sure, whatever!
Maybe all that "unjust enthusiasm can be put to better use elsewhere?" Or...maybe not.
Man...I do tend to draw crowd though when you think about it.
Nothing else going on in the neighborhood???
:boredom:
dp
I'd say this is beautiful. But you guys probably knew I'd say that.
I'm sorry my sense of humor appears to be a little too subtle or off beat for you Souljah.
At least some people got the joke. :smile:
LOL..I got it James and had quite the laugh! :grin:
Souljah: My goodness woman, are you in need of some attention, or a hug? :eyetwitch:
Quote- Yes you are wrong about me.
- I wasn't aware that a post was a 'stone throw'?!?
("the right topic"? That as well is demonstration of your mentality.)
- I have no knowledge of the World Religions Forum.
Personally no interest.
- Maybe
- I thought the expression was also used in English, "throw the first stone" usually means "to start an argument". By "the right topic" I obviously meant the topic "not everyone has a soul". I really don't see how referring to it as "the right topic" shows my mentality.
- Then maybe you should go there now and then.
QuoteAnd you decided to step into the middle of it....wonder why?
I read your posts saying how everyone "bashed" the new user and thought i could try to clarify a few things for you. But it seems it was useless and you are going to persist.
Again i may be wrong but it seemed to me that you took advantage of some of my errors in English to criticize me. So I'm "sorry" if my efforts to learn another language didn't give perfect results. :roll:
That was my point about SoulJah. Always jumps in to defend someone or some idea, and fights with whoever backs up their own opinion, so, of course, any reply is WRONG. There is no use, so just ignore her is the conclusion I have come to. If the moderators won't stop the posts (which they shouldn't, everyone is entitled to voice out), the least we can do if we don't agree with the attitude is to just ignore (which is OUR right).
Bloodsong
dear adun,
i really feel that you are missing my mission here, and that's okay (of course). i don't expect anyone to go out of there way to understand me. seems like that's a difficult function for a lot at this forum...to put aside their own beliefs to allow enough room for/respect for others. very few people get where i'm coming from...and that's okay. as for your language skills. please don't think that has anything to do with it. at all!
Kazbadan is a perfect example of broken english...that i just love & respect.
people here will try to make me out as the enemy, and that's fine...but one thing i won't just lay down for is when people jump to conclusions in an attempt to distract themselves from looking at their own behavior. the only thing i was making mention of with your post...was how you were helping draw that line between black & white (wrong & right) (not that that needs any help here @ AP). i personally don't believe in any in of that. that there is right place & a right way to post, and how easily people can be tossed into the "wrong" pile because they see things differently. i mention it a lot, and it's funny how it gets swung back in my direction so quickly without anyone ever willing to look at it seriously. people get strange when you turn the mirror on them. i'm use to that.
people are either "part of the problem or part of the solution". just so happens that in this forum...if you agree with the powers that be = you're right, and if think outside the box = you're wrong.
do i have a problem with that? yes i most definitely do!
am i going to keep my mouth shut, bcuz i'm afraid that the jack-boot thugs are going to turn on me...and make me seem like the problem? no.
bcuz my purpose goes beyond that. there's a lot of people here that want to be "right" (or at least be on the "right" side of things), but that's as far as it goes. so many never get past the superficial arguing. and i can only see that as "immature"...in that light i am able to look at them with some understanding, where normally i just wouldn't have the patients.
and bloodsong :roll:
you might be more than willing to drag the diluted & common human function onto the web, and make it about survival of the fittest...but i think there's enough of that primitive mind set taking place. everyone has their own pace...their own drummer. yes a lot of people fall into the "top 10" category, where what they believe and think is status quo (that's why it's called the "top 10"). it take all kinds though, and just bcuz someone doesn't listen to the same channel you do. they shouldn't be ostracized for it. this is the internet for christ's sake...there's enough room for everyone to have a unique perspective (if they wish). yes...i'm fighting for that, bcuz it can easily vanish. if i see someone getting beaten up on the street by a bunch of thugs...i'll jump in to protect the lone-man. if i see someone tormenting an animal...i'll do whatever i have to do to rescue it. that's just me. it's great that you fit into the "winning" side, but i don't. i don't want to, and nor am i going to...just to keep the peace.
to me that's not peace...it's apathetic complacency & it's weak.
my humble opinion of course!
and dearest james,
yeah...i'm sorry i just don't find the humour in nazi regimes. :confused:
soul
dear bloodsong,
i know you're
so over this, but i just HAD to comment.
are you aware of how blatantly obvious you are being with your behavior?!?
i just can't help myself with this bcuz it's a good example of what i have a problem with...which you seem to want to miss.
QuoteThat was my point about SoulJah. (Who are you talking to?) Always jumps in to defend someone or some idea, and fights with whoever backs up their own opinion, so, of course, any reply is WRONG. There is no use, so just ignore her is the conclusion I have come to. If the moderators won't stop the posts (which they shouldn't, everyone is entitled to voice out), the least WE can do if WE don't agree with the attitude is to just ignore (which is OUR right).
Bloodsong
you insist you have "issue" with me, but instead of bothering to 'heal' that dis-EASE...(which we could have simply attempted with the PM's)...you side stepped all that/took it public...and in the end seem most concerned with "who" is in agreement with you. you don't have a problem with me at all! not that you'd admit that...what you're really doing is feeling out a space to fit into. and that's completely acceptable in the grand scheme of things, but i think it would be healthy to be honest with yourself about that.
i don't have a big problem with people utilizing my fringe-function to work their way into the "common" circle, but it sure would be nice if all that energy was used for something more productive, then personal insecurities....but whatever.
soul
you're making the assumption that everyone is pretty much in agreement with you. you might be thinking that bcuz no one is bothering to back me up that i'm in the "wrong"...(it's a very small circle to work your way into)(so i wouldn't put much stock in it or get too comfortable)...all the folk that would side with me are involved in more productive circles. and i pretty much like going it alone anyway. keeps me on my toes. :wink:
Lady, it saddens me, I understand the views just made, but you're so nagging, I proclaim thee a Beautiful Harlot. It's only a play.
http://www.wutangcorp.com/showthread.php?t=40&page=38&pp=10
Simply Seek and you will find.
Harmless as Serpents, Wise as Doves
UP Away
Damn, but I think I'm starting to grasp the poetics of your thought threads MC2!
Just needed a little linguistic paradigm shift.
:exclamation:
and so a play it shall remain.
but i ask thee (I-C) what of those who are consumed backstage, and what of the writers? what quiet collaboration should ever concern the players?
all or none?
It is not for me to say
Decode this.
(=Wu-Tang-Clang:-Aint-Nothing-To-bonk-With=)
Much Love All
as i guessed.
no need to decode.
mental download
in check
zalryt? zalryt!
zokay? zokay!
my style carries like a pickup truck across the clear blue yonder :wink:
yer right...no need to wonder.
peace to the middle east.
soul
Give me some rest, at least.
I tire and tire of two gnats in the night
trying to sell their fantasy plight.
Once again we are in the poem thread
Peace in the middle east?
You are oblivious, in the least....
THE NAY-SOUL CHA CHA
(=X=)
(=Album- Fugees: The Score=)
Ups Abstract Thoughts Flys, UPLinks False
Messiah's slain
Bread Oazaki 69 Days in the Play
Keeps Silent Wisdom at Bay
THE New David Pmed Yesterday
Not the One AP knows, A Stranger
Lured To Trumpets Deadly Melody
A Valid Synchronicity,
The Invalid Snake
Hiss, Flying Fist Judea Executed
Beats through the Whyre
(=Fugees:The Beast=)
(=X=)
Much Love America
REFLECTING PEACE IN THE EAST
MUCH REFLECTING ALWAYS
Ready your house for the soldiers of the Killuminati.
Preparing the new round table for Tupac & Big-Es arrival.
The powers that 'think' & are NOT...get more snotty.
as the color of blood keeps on driving survival.
(imho) :wink:
wu-tocious 2da max!
souljah333
(=X=)
WORD UP Tenacious D Overdue,
Back in Thought The
Battle Liquid Took Place
Each Heard N Saw A Nameless
Face, Asked For A Bow
Some Obliged The Scythe Raised
Threatened Reaping All
Cried Innocence, the Crowd Dum
Explained
So IT Swung, MC's Amour Reflect
IT Fell Slain Iequal Myself Caught
THE Blade N Rapsody All Dums Bowed
Alone, Stood Ann Frank The
Diary, Beaming Hope Gets Well Soon
And Lively, Live Bohemian Style
The QueenS of Hawaii
(=X=)
wtf is going on? :shock:
:lol:
i think this is where
U left off...
QuoteThere will be no peace as long as people like SoulJah are compelled to argue against everything.
:eek:
Funny how many people feel completely obliged to speak up when they "think" they know what they're talking about. Also funny how it never gets any deeper than the argument. (So much for Spiritual Evolution)
Hahahahahaha..... ack..cough..gag...cough Damn, you made me swallow my gum.
Soliciting responses with a added bonus of ridicule.. Classic! :grin:
I shall put forth a riddle unto the people.
What is sweeter than honey? And what is stronger than a lion?
empty
Quote from: IequalMC2What is sweeter than honey? And what is stronger than a lion?
Winnie the Pooh?
:nod:
Sarah
Quote from: Souljah333Funny how many people feel completely obliged to speak up when they "think" they know what they're talking about. Also funny how it never gets any deeper than the argument. (So much for Spiritual Evolution)
meh, i was never much of a poet. im more of a drawing man myself. Yeah it never does go deeper than the argument, sad isnt it. Maybe we should get to know each other more. We can be pen pals.
(Hands Nay a drink of water and makes a passing comment about some things being hard to swallow...)
Can we get back to the point here guys?
All this mud flying around, It's getting messy in here!
:question: :question: :question: