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mon9999

For those who believe in reincarnation like me, just want to ask if reincarnation is by choice or did we came to earth by our own will? thank you :-)

quester

Quote from: mon9999 on August 03, 2007, 09:25:04
For those who believe in reincarnation like me, just want to ask if reincarnation is by choice or did we came to earth by our own will? thank you :-)

No one really knows in my opinion and turns out to be a matter of faith I guess. My subjective view is I would, if given the choice right now not wish to reincarnate. This may be one reason we must reincarnate each time. Can you imagine returning the same person (bad guy or good guy). In my own physical mind I can't see man ever evolving past evil. Yet I know when he does I would want to be part of that. In all likelihood, this in going to based on some knowledge we gain outside our physical reality, don't you think. I'm certainly interested to find out what others feel.

Psionic

This is a bit difficult to explain because everything was basically in "Energy Form". I had a lucid dream a couple of weeks ago where I had a revelation of how after my last incarnation had ended (I intuitively knew that it was an incarnation of intense struggle) I immediately chose by my own will to reincarnate again. There was a presence of multitudes of entities who I just knew were there throughout all my incarnations and that they will always be there in my future incarnations.

Believe it or not, but I know this is absolutely true.

quester

Quote from: Psionic on August 04, 2007, 07:05:54
. I had a lucid dream a couple of weeks ago where I had a revelation of how after my last incarnation had ended (I intuitively knew that it was an incarnation of intense struggle)

No it was quite well put, especially the idea of your last reincarnation. I lean to much the same idea you have expressed though mine is just a belief I have. The difficulty I do feel (with the vast majority of mankind) is every person (maybe a souls) comes into this existence (plane) losing self knowledge as we are born. Quite frankly I think the reason is very clear. But this knowledge is as you say intuitive, it resides in us and can guide us if we listen. But in this plane we try to blot out all remembrance and certainly the vast majority of people don't listen deciding not to. No one is at fault and this is one reason we must reincarnate. The truth is  life shows us valuable lessons. One is a person can experience conditions that could have them saying things make no sense and I don't want to go on. But then when a person comes into balance and gains clarity and awareness where it all begins to make sense then all previous idea of negativity vanish as though they never existed. I know many can relate and have felt this. Do we have or make choice in being reincarnated. I don't believe we do because choice we think of is in terms of the physical brain not the spiritual and not with our intuitive knowledge. In this respect does anyone place any importance of intuitive knowledge (feeling) and is this the way it's suppose to be. I believe this intuitive factor is of major importance in reincarnation. In our present state (of society) we are taught to go against and block out this inner voice and hence we are here to learn to learn to listen.

zareste

I've heard both actually.  I'll bet the older spirits get to choose while younger ones are simply shoved into a random body.

Psionic

Quote from: quester on August 04, 2007, 12:19:25
The difficulty I do feel (with the vast majority of mankind) is every person (maybe a souls) comes into this existence (plane) losing self knowledge as we are born.

We do lose self knowledge, the reason being that knowing about our past lives might get in the way of what we are here for this time around... if you happen to know all there is about your past lives it is because you have possibly evolved  a lot at a soul level and this information will not hamper your focus.

Mez

EVERYTHING ABOUT REINCARNATION IS ALL IN THE BHAGAVAD GITA! The Bhagavad Gita is an ancient vedic text which is basically a Krishna telling his friend Arjuna all about reincarnation and Karma because they are about to go into battle and Arjuna is upset about it.

Bear in mind the original bhagavad gita was written in sanskrit over 5000 years ago. Krishna was an incarnation of the surpeme lord A.K.A god. These ancient texts remain unchanged and the bhagavad gita to the best of my knowledge is the first time reincarnation is mentioned in history.

CHAKRA is a sanskrit word!
THESE PEOPLE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT!

DriftingConscience

Can one be reincarnated by a soul from the future?

The reason why I mention this is that certain few people on this earth plane have had a remarkable aptitude to see into the future by allegedly accessing the Akashic Records. This I believe was the mechanism for Nostradamus to foretell his prephecies forexample.

Could it have been alternatively that the sould of Nostradamus WAS from the future and thus Nostradamus was able to relate events via his prophecies, by accessing his subconscious memory or should I say superconscious memory. Please correct me as I do not know what memory one uses sub or super to access spiritual knowledge from past/future lives.

This is a mind blowing opinion and I wonder what everyones views are on this.
Virtuous Akashic Evangelist

Stookie

Suppose there is an "outside" of time and space. Past nor future would exist - only "now". From that perspective, all lifetimes happen simultaneously, so seeing into the future would really be shifting your perception outside of time and space and focusing awareness onto a different spot in time and space.

Reincarnation in the traditional sense could happen if we only existed within time and space. Which may be the case, I don't know.

majour ka

Hi, my guides told me only this week that "The physical existance we are enjoing is a fantastic gift and great privaledge.That being given the chance to come here in a human body should be enjoyed as much as possible and our time used wisely, for we will all return home eventualy and who knows when we may may get the next opportunity to come here again and learn. Unfold the spiritual and embrace the physical"


imp

Very well written majour ka, couldn't agree more.

I believe we have all chosen to be here. We have decided to grow and this life is our chance to do so. Maybe the only one, who knows.
"All paths are the same, leading nowhere. Therefore, pick a path with heart!" -Carlos Castaneda

Astir

Quote from: DriftingConscience on September 11, 2007, 20:23:28
Can one be reincarnated by a soul from the future?

The reason why I mention this is that certain few people on this earth plane have had a remarkable aptitude to see into the future by allegedly accessing the Akashic Records. This I believe was the mechanism for Nostradamus to foretell his prephecies forexample.

Could it have been alternatively that the sould of Nostradamus WAS from the future and thus Nostradamus was able to relate events via his prophecies, by accessing his subconscious memory or should I say superconscious memory. Please correct me as I do not know what memory one uses sub or super to access spiritual knowledge from past/future lives.

This is a mind blowing opinion and I wonder what everyones views are on this.

I think it's possible to go all the way forward to your end as a singular self and then start moving backward. It's against all supposed laws...but many things are difficult to fathom with a physical human mind. But to me that's the only thing that can explain the truly rare and enlightened human beings like Krishna and Jesus...I think they might have reincarnated in circles.


zorgblar

Quote from: mon9999 on August 03, 2007, 09:25:04
For those who believe in reincarnation like me, just want to ask if reincarnation is by choice or did we came to earth by our own will? thank you :-)

Im sorry but i don't buy into the concept of reincarnation.It doesn't make sense.I believe that when you die your spirit either goes to a literal heaven or hell like in the christian bible or your spirit gets accidentally trapped on earth and stuck between heaven and hell becoming a wandering ghost.No reincarnation.

Astir

Quote from: zorgblar on January 23, 2008, 12:44:24
Im sorry but i don't buy into the concept of reincarnation.
It doesn't make sense.

It might not if you've never been reincarnated.

Some on the other hand feel a weight of lifetimes in excess. Experience disproportionate to the number of years they've lived.

It's not an incredibly desirable state to achieve like many spiritual people would like to think. Very old souls can be some of the most crippled.

Tayesin

Perhaps the answer you seek depends on what perception you wish to build a belief about.

From my experience, we are massive, beautiful Souls who choose each round of incarnations, rather than the traditional view of us as small and insignificant.

This then means you have chosen just about everything for the experience of your current life, and you are doing this not for the perfection of your soul since the soul you are is already perfect, but rather we incarnate for experience in order to assist the universe, god, whatever you want to call what we are part of, to come to know itself just as we have spiritual practice to come to know ourselves and what we are capable of.

While you may have chosen many of the factors for this life, you actually live the agreements for co-creation that you made at the Akasha Record/library with other souls. So you are also making it up (creating) as you go, which is why concepts like Fate or Destiny are so flawed.

There really are no new or old souls from my perception, that concept was one used to control us through believing we are of no great importance. Each soul is ancient, having been disseminated from the One at the earliest 'time' and so the only way a soul could be seen to be young is when it is incarnating here for the first round of lives.

I hope this was some help.

Love Always,
Tayesin