So I need some help.

[Dusty2010]

Okay, so I'm at a point in my life where I really need some peace. Awhile ago I was very into meditation and it really did wonders for me - but with the busier I've got the more and more I've dropped away from it. I've tried it a few times recently and... nothing. I used to be able to get that nice peaceful feeling in minutes, now I'm sitting aimlessly.

Are there any meditation techniques that I would benefit from? I'm laying down and just monitoring my breath, if you need to know.

Also, I have a Wiccan friend who constantly talks about meeting his spirit guide... Now I'm not a super huge believer in very much past alternate dimensions, but I can probably buy off on a spirit guide if it was really just my higher self. Is there anything I can do to meet my spirit guide somewhat sooner? It took my friend almost his whole initiation into the craft to finally meet his guide, so about a year. And he's still not great at it - he only gets results about 1/4 sessions.

At this point I'd just like someone to talk to, some peace, and to be completely honest... I'd like to know that there is something else there. Something beyond this hole of a world. I'm not searching for an afterlife or anything - just a place to go that I know is actually well off. Somewhere where things are right.

Thanks for reading, please, if you think any information you have would help me, post it. I really do appreciate it.

[Vitruvian]

Are there any meditation techniques that I would benefit from? I'm laying down and just monitoring my breath, if you need to know.

I'd like to know that there is something else there. Something beyond this hole of a world. I'm not searching for an afterlife or anything - just a place to go that I know is actually well off. Somewhere where things are right.

Hi Dusty,
Happened to log on this morning and saw this. I have two techniques that work well, together. The first is (like yours) focusing on breathing. Actually, try this after getting comfortable: be very aware of the feel of your breath as it passes your nostrils, just inside and up high. Focus exclusively on this sensation. Breathe in for 3 counts, and out for 6. Give all the tension in your body permission to leave. Concurrently, after you've done about a dozen breaths - remind yourself (i.e., replace any on-going self-talk with this) that there is only the present moment. Both the past and the future are actually - and only - constructs of your mind (meditation: everything that has ever happened has actually happened in the present moment). Only now is real. Anything that has happened in the past no longer matters. No one knows what tommorrow will bring.

You should then remind yourself (meditation:) that all is unfolding as it should, to your utter highest best good. You are safe, right now, in the arms of a loving God. So here where you are now is the Place where everything is 'right'.

Sending you good vibes and white light!
Namaste,
Vitruvian
PS - I have discovered that guides show up in a wide variety of ways, often quite informally - just be open to that idea

[Tiny]

Okay, so I'm at a point in my life where I really need some peace. Awhile ago I was very into meditation and it really did wonders for me - but with the busier I've got the more and more I've dropped away from it. I've tried it a few times recently and... nothing. I used to be able to get that nice peaceful feeling in minutes, now I'm sitting aimlessly.

Are there any meditation techniques that I would benefit from? I'm laying down and just monitoring my breath, if you need to know.

Also, I have a Wiccan friend who constantly talks about meeting his spirit guide... Now I'm not a super huge believer in very much past alternate dimensions, but I can probably buy off on a spirit guide if it was really just my higher self. Is there anything I can do to meet my spirit guide somewhat sooner? It took my friend almost his whole initiation into the craft to finally meet his guide, so about a year. And he's still not great at it - he only gets results about 1/4 sessions.

At this point I'd just like someone to talk to, some peace, and to be completely honest... I'd like to know that there is something else there. Something beyond this hole of a world. I'm not searching for an afterlife or anything - just a place to go that I know is actually well off. Somewhere where things are right.

Thanks for reading, please, if you think any information you have would help me, post it. I really do appreciate it.

Dear Dusty2010,

after all my experience in meditation I have concluded that there is really no substitute to
cleansing one's aura, the letting go from all attachments in order to be patient, focused and free in that moment.
This is absolutely essential. If there is the slightest mental discomfort one will not get very far. One has to release all major blockages first in order to be able to arrive in altered states of consciousness.
In most people, there is more activity in their subconscious minds than they can even realize, spiritual dirt has accumulated in their minds causing them to be unable to relax but themselves being oblivious of it.

It took my friend almost his whole initiation into the craft to finally meet his guide, so about a year. And he's still not great at it - he only gets results about 1/4 sessions.

The time it takes to answer the question "Who Am I and what are my connections" is simply a matter of one's own willingness to let go, as it were. It doesn't have to take a year.

In my opinion, one of the greatest things with meditation is the continual realization that it's practice connects oneself to the divine more than anything else and how unneeded all the things in the world that money can buy are. Over time the meditator becomes very Zen but as soon as he stops meditating, he'll go back to where he started from and life may become dull and mean again.


Meditation should be as uncomplicated as possible. Techniques should be avoided. I tried all sorts of techniques that could possibly make it easier and it led me right nowhere. Initially one should focus on relaxing mentally and physically but staying alert at all times to avoid falling asleep or being swept away by random trains of thought. If one does this, one will eventually slip into a focal point automatically and effortlessly where he can remain comfortably for dozens of minutes. It appears to be a balancing act.

At this point I'd just like someone to talk to, some peace, and to be completely honest...

We can talk on MSN if you like.


kind regards,

Paul

[Dusty2010]

Thanks for the help everyone. I've since dug up some MP3's that I used to have for meditation and they really help.

I can feel myself letting go of stress already... It's nice, to say the least.

And while I appreciate the offer to talk Tiny, I was more thinking talk to my spirit guide if possible. Someone who really knows me, you know? Still, thank you.

If anyone has anything else they'd like to contribute, especially any sort of information regarding altered states of consciousnesses, I would appreciate it if you shared!

[Tiny]

If anyone has anything else they'd like to contribute, especially any sort of information regarding altered states of consciousnesses, I would appreciate it if you shared!

There are some who say he who focuses on the third-eye chakra will receive enlightenment.

About one year or so ago, i decided i was going to experiment for a couple of weeks straight with my third-eye chakra by focusing on it relentlessly throughout the entire day while in meditation and the usual activities...it was a very powerful experience.


kind regards,

Paul

[Vitruvian]

Dusty,
I knew I was forgetting something, here.

I'd like to know that there is something else there. Something beyond this hole of a world

Negative thought patterns can creep up on us unawares. They can become a source of comfort, and are therefore insidious. They are self-propagating. And of course they lead us in a direction that is self-defeating.

I respectfully suggest that if you find a way to let the negative self-talk disappear, and replace it with positives, you will find yourself in a place where you will be able to develop to your highest potential. A first step, utilizing So - Hum (I Am) breathing, would be a great first step in this direction.
http://www.chopra.com/sohum
Best regards,
Vitruvian

[Dusty2010]

Okay, so a little update here. I'm doing better with just plain meditation and it really is helping with stress and all that crap. But I was thinking and a question arose - when I start a meditation that takes me to an altered form of counsiousness (I'm going for a Wiccan spirit guide one) will i physically be IN that area, like I'm dreaming? Or will it just be thoughts? I know my body won't physically move but how will I perceive it? Thanks again guys.

[soli]

Okay, so a little update here. I'm doing better with just plain meditation and it really is helping with stress and all that crap. But I was thinking and a question arose - when I start a meditation that takes me to an altered form of counsiousness (I'm going for a Wiccan spirit guide one) will i physically be IN that area, like I'm dreaming? Or will it just be thoughts? I know my body won't physically move but how will I perceive it? Thanks again guys.

as the other area of consciousness is now your focal point of awareness you will perceive in first person as in the physical.

[Dusty2010]

Thanks! I wondered how that would work.

Btw, if anyone wants an example of what I'm trying, the following YouTube video is what i'm going for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zglj8es4tFw&feature=youtube_gdata

[Dusty2010]

So lately I have been trying phasing. I actually had a bit of success just a few minutes ago... But it was not what I'm going for. I began to notice pitch black - like I was in the 3D blackness Kepple describes (I think that's F3?). Everything was fine; then for some reason it felt like my body was under a serious amount of pressure. So much that I began to get very frightened. I remembered to keep emotionally neutral and to just create my desires in my head, but when I tried all I could manage to do was see a white speck in the distance. I then got so scared that I just opened my eyes... Not exactly the experience I was hoping for, but I won't let this stop me.

As always, any suggestions or comments are very welcome!!!

[Xanth]

So lately I have been trying phasing. I actually had a bit of success just a few minutes ago... But it was not what I'm going for. I began to notice pitch black - like I was in the 3D blackness Kepple describes (I think that's F3?). Everything was fine; then for some reason it felt like my body was under a serious amount of pressure. So much that I began to get very frightened. I remembered to keep emotionally neutral and to just create my desires in my head, but when I tried all I could manage to do was see a white speck in the distance. I then got so scared that I just opened my eyes... Not exactly the experience I was hoping for, but I won't let this stop me.

As always, any suggestions or comments are very welcome!!!

What you experienced was the beginnings of Focus 12!  Congratulations.
The "pressure" you felt was, in my opinion, most likely just you sensing your physical body relaxing more.
No worries.

~Ryan

[Brolyson]

So lately I have been trying phasing. I actually had a bit of success just a few minutes ago... But it was not what I'm going for. I began to notice pitch black - like I was in the 3D blackness Kepple describes (I think that's F3?). Everything was fine; then for some reason it felt like my body was under a serious amount of pressure. So much that I began to get very frightened. I remembered to keep emotionally neutral and to just create my desires in my head, but when I tried all I could manage to do was see a white speck in the distance. I then got so scared that I just opened my eyes... Not exactly the experience I was hoping for, but I won't let this stop me.

As always, any suggestions or comments are very welcome!!!

This experience was similar to mine a few years ago. I felt some pressure in my abdomen, and a feeling of being rushed towards to spec of light off in the distance. It scared me too, lol...and though I don't have an explanation for the pressure, I can say that it is worth it to allow the pressure to subside, and that you have nothing to worry about in that regard.

[Dusty2010]

Okay I'll try to let it pass tonight. I tried again last night but just couldn't relax as much as I did the first time, that experience was pretty scary without knowing what to expect.

[Dusty2010]

Does anyone have like a link to all the focuses? I was just going by Robert Monroes 4, I have no idea what anything is past that 

[sola~]

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/overview-of-focus-levels/

unless you were looking for frank's - http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

overlaps between models of consciousness

Monroe's Focus C1 = my Focus 1
Monroe Focus 3, 10, 12, 15 & 21 = my Focus 2
Monroe Focus 23, 24, 25, 26 & 27 = my Focus 3
Frank's Focus 4 has no Monroe counterpart.

[Dusty2010]

Thank you very much!

So as I was reading about focus 27, is there a way that one could actually enter F27 WITHOUT dying? I'm assuming that you can, seeing as Monroe knows about it. Are the focus levels after 27 what you move on to from 27? Like after you've been long dead? Or are they just separate places?

P.S. If someone were an atheist, rigid in their lack of belief, what focus would they move to after death? I'm assuming one in 24-27, but seeing as they don't have a real belief then where would they go? Also what would happen to an agnostic who claims they just don't know what will happen and will just go with it? I'm assuming then they'd move to F27 fairly quickly, correct?

Just pondering thoughts.

[Xanth]

Thank you very much!

So as I was reading about focus 27, is there a way that one could actually enter F27 WITHOUT dying? I'm assuming that you can, seeing as Monroe knows about it. Are the focus levels after 27 what you move on to from 27? Like after you've been long dead? Or are they just separate places?

Yup!
My current understanding is that you need to first project... then close down all thoughts and emotions that you're emitting that is fueling your current surroundings... then those will fade away and you'll be in Focus 27.

There is "more" after Focus 27, indeed. 
You can read more about it here: http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

P.S. If someone were an atheist, rigid in their lack of belief, what focus would they move to after death? I'm assuming one in 24-27, but seeing as they don't have a real belief then where would they go? Also what would happen to an agnostic who claims they just don't know what will happen and will just go with it? I'm assuming then they'd move to F27 fairly quickly, correct?

Just pondering thoughts.

My assumption is that first you'd find yourself in Focus 23.
Then, hopefully, you'd either know where to go or someone will come by to assist you... but assuming you had no firm religious beliefs of an afterlife, you'd immediately move onto Focus 27 where you'd re-learn how to live in subjective reality.

As for the Gnostic... yes, they'll just go with it.

~Ryan

[sola~]

It is thought that when f1 no longer becomes a person's primary focus due to their physical body no longer being able to sustain itself that their primary focus then becomes f3. It is also thought that one exists in the focus of f3 until they are ready to move on to f4 as their primary focus. One can enter any focus of consciousness, it is simply that it will not become their primary focus.  Atheists do not have a lack of belief in the after life, a supreme deity is just not in their belief structure. I believe this term was actually coined due to that it was thought if one did not believe in a supreme deity they must also not believe in an after life, however this is not always the case and the term is generally misused simply due to there being no strict widely accepted definition for it anymore in society. I do not know what type of belief structure will manifest, only one who was one and who has experienced it will truly know, so I would take anything said about it as conjecture. My view is that anyone who has never experienced focus 27 will have a belief structure based on what it would be as they will form their subjective beliefs of it based on the information of others who have so they may end up in focus 26 and then quickly move to 27 after their beliefs have aligned more so to the actual reality of the focus.

[Xanth]

It is thought that when f1 no longer becomes a person's primary focus due to their physical body no longer being able to sustain itself that their primary focus then becomes f3. It is also thought that one exists in the focus of f3 until they are ready to move on to f4 as their primary focus. One can enter any focus of consciousness, it is simply that it will not become their primary focus.  Atheists do not have a lack of belief in the after life, a supreme deity is just not in their belief structure. I believe this term was actually coined due to that it was thought if one did not believe in a supreme deity they must also not believe in an after life, however this is not always the case and the term is generally misused simply due to there being no strict widely accepted definition for it anymore in society. I do not know what type of belief structure will manifest, only one who was one and who has experienced it will truly know, so I would take anything said about it as conjecture. My view is that anyone who has never experienced focus 27 will have a belief structure based on what it would be as they will form their subjective beliefs of it based on the information of others who have so they may end up in focus 26 and then quickly move to 27 after their beliefs have aligned more so to the actual reality of the focus.

I just wanna point out that we're mixing Robert Monroe's Model of the Wider Reality with Frank Kepples. 
All the different Focus Levels we're talking about can be confusing otherwise.

~Ryan

[sola~]

he has an overlap to go by so he should be good..~

[Dusty2010]

Okay, so now I'm attaining F12 on a very regular basis. I'm very at ease with the feeling I get there - definiately no more fear in this area from me. But now I have a seperate problem - I'm stuck! What do I do to dive into deeper focus levels? I'd really still like to be able to communicate with my spirit guide or a least see my spirit animal.

Anyone have any advice?

[Dusty2010]

Nobody? I can't even get the white dot anymore... This is kind of frustrating

[solarity]

Okay, so now I'm attaining F12 on a very regular basis. I'm very at ease with the feeling I get there - definiately no more fear in this area from me. But now I have a seperate problem - I'm stuck! What do I do to dive into deeper focus levels? I'd really still like to be able to communicate with my spirit guide or a least see my spirit animal.

Anyone have any advice?

go within!! yahh

[Xanth]

Okay, so now I'm attaining F12 on a very regular basis. I'm very at ease with the feeling I get there - definiately no more fear in this area from me. But now I have a seperate problem - I'm stuck! What do I do to dive into deeper focus levels? I'd really still like to be able to communicate with my spirit guide or a least see my spirit animal.

Anyone have any advice?

If you're really on Focus 12, then you're at the perfect place to talk to your spirit guide.
Just start talking and asking questions.  See if you get a response. 

~Ryan

[anxhelino1234]

so, i know im a little, well very late to ask but i was wondering can you share what kind of 'music' you listen to when you meditate


thanx!