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kurai kokoro

In the bible it is perdicted that the Anti Christ will lead the followers of satan against Jesus Christ.
this Anti Christ is supposed to be the Exact opposite of Jesus.

CHRIS 
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Short form of (CHRIST)OPHER, (CHRIST)IAN, (CHRIST)INE, and other names that begin with Chris.
ANGEL 
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From the medieval Latin masculine name Angelus which was derived from the name of the heavenly creature (itself derived from the Greek word αγγελος (angelos) meaning "messenger"). It has never been very common in the English-speaking world, where it is has sometimes been used as a feminine name in modern times.

JESUS 
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English form of Ιησους (Iesous), which was the Greek form of the Aramaic name יֵשׁוּעַ (Yeshu'a). Yeshu'a is itself a contracted form of Yehoshu'a (see JOSHUA). Yeshua ben Yoseph, better known as Jesus Christ, was the central figure of the New Testament and the source of the Christian religion. The four Gospels state that he was the son of God and the Virgin Mary who fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah. He preached for three years before being crucified in Jerusalem.
JOSHUA 
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From the Hebrew name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ (Yehoshu'a) meaning "YAHWEH is salvation". Joshua was one of the twelve spies sent into Canaan by Moses in the Old Testament. After Moses died Joshua succeeded him as leader of the Israelites. As an English name, Joshua has been in use since the Protestant Reformation.
The name Jesus comes from a Greek translation of the Aramaic short form יֵשׁוּעַ (Yeshu'a), which was the real name of Jesus.

now I know that their are alot of Chris Angel fans out thier but just look at the symbols, he wears a silver pendent with the number 13, he wears silver rings of skulls, he walked on water, sound familar?
even look at his name, Chris(t) Angel
who do you think he is? a normal human with an uncanny ability to do different things with his mind, I think not, if the anti Christ is the exact opposite of Jesus, then wouldn't his name be inverted? Coincidence I think not.
"I am the Phoenix that engulfed the dragon."

CFTraveler

QuoteIn the bible it is perdicted that the Anti Christ will lead the followers of satan against Jesus Christ.
I challenge that assumption.
Tell me exactly the bible verses that say that, and I'll show you a book written 100 years after Christ written by a man who was imprisoned in a prison in Greece by a Roman emperor.  And, who wrote Revelation as it pertained to his present and the emperor who put him there.

kurai kokoro

okay,
the Apocalypse of st. john the apostle
I don't remember the exact chapter of the book of the apocalypse,
or the number of it. but it is in the Apocalypse of st. john the apostle.
"I am the Phoenix that engulfed the dragon."

Stookie

All hail Chris Angel and his legion of playboy bunnies! The Apocalypse is near!

CFTraveler

Quote from: kurai kokoro on October 23, 2008, 10:14:41
okay,
the Apocalypse of st. john the apostle
I don't remember the exact chapter of the book of the apocalypse,
or the number of it. but it is in the Apocalypse of st. john the apostle.
I don't think you got the meaning behind my challenge.

What I would like you to do (if you decide to play along this mental exercise) is to look up the exact words from Revelation (which is another name for the Apocalypse of St. John) and prove to me that the bible says what you just said it says.
Of course, you don't have to play along, but then how are you going to know if the things you are taking for granted  as true are true to begin with?

Personally Kurai, I find you to be a very openminded person and not one to be convinced of things until you see if this is true.
But when I see a statement (from you or anyone else) that says:  "Since A is so, then B must be so", I want to find out if the person saying it knows whether "A"  is really true, because if it isn't, how can they decide that "B" is?


CFTraveler

Quote from: Stookie on October 23, 2008, 11:13:33
All hail Chris Angel and his legion of playboy bunnies! The Apocalypse is near!
I think he's hot.  But is he metrosexual? (or do I care?)  :-P

kurai kokoro

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oh so the Idea is to just Find the part where it says that?
I am open minded but I'm unsure of anything, I haven't reached enlightenment yet like allot of you may have and I'm always seeking answers, and I think I get what you are saying, Like in Starwars revenge of the sith Yoda says A Prophesy that misread maybe(That maybe A misread Prophesy.) Like in Starwars the Jedi aren't allowed to love but the sith are which begs the question which is the true evil the Jedi or the sith, I've discovered this because Yoda speaks in comprehensible to some people, so if something is in comprehensible then one must seek what it really means, I Correct Am?
"I am the Phoenix that engulfed the dragon."

kurai kokoro

Couldn't find it.... But I could sware I saw it before. All well I Must be wrong and thats okay by me.
"I am the Phoenix that engulfed the dragon."

CFTraveler

Quote from: kurai kokoro on October 23, 2008, 13:31:25
oh so the Idea is to just Find the part where it says that?
I am open minded but I'm unsure of anything, I haven't reached enlightenment yet like allot of you may have and I'm always seeking answers, and I think I get what you are saying, Like in Starwars revenge of the sith Yoda says A Prophesy that misread maybe(That maybe A misread Prophesy.)
Well, I don't consider myself enlightened- to me that is a belief like any other, but that's besides the point.
My point is that there are a lot of ideas built on fallacies and people believe them because enough 'experts' tell them as if they were true.  The idea of apocalypse meaning 'the end' is one of those- apocalypse means revelation, in other words it's a vision that one man had. (And btw, some bible historians are pretty sure that the John that wrote Revelation was not John the apostle, that's one of the things that are taken for granted but are not necessarily true).

QuoteLike in Starwars the Jedi aren't allowed to love but the sith are which begs the question which is the true evil the Jedi or the sith, I've discovered this because Yoda speaks in comprehensible to some people, so if something is in comprehensible then one must seek what it really means, I Correct Am?
Right you are, Padawan.
Ok. I'm off my high horse.  Thanks for being gracious about it.

kurai kokoro

well if I got mad about it it would show how bad of a person I am, and I don't like to be told that I'm bad, but sadly I am and I'm also trying to change it, and thanks for the discussion it realy makes me feel good to discusse different things on my mind. :-D
"I am the Phoenix that engulfed the dragon."