There can be spitiruality in anything you do, if it is not something really awfull such as murder. The thing is the way you view it and what brings you to do it. So there can be spirituality in sex, if it is viewed as a special relation with someone, as a way to express love, as a way to exchange (say) energy... Sexuality does not have to be separated and to become something in itself, like a cult. Secuality has to be viewed as a part of a special relation with someone. And as such it has to stay as something personal, not something that one will go and tell others "I had sex like that and like this" - that's the wrong way of viewing it. And like anything else in life it has to come with moderation - that is not too much but also to have enough. It has to come naturally and not to be forced. Sex is not only part of life, but it is the "source of biological life" (as Darwin sees: everything that goes with life is enjoyable and everything that goes against life is suffering). This in itself has a lot of spirituality, but of course one cannot have sex just to have children (as some religions suggest): one would have too many children and not enough sex. Some highly spiritual monks (e.g. buddhists) can live without and can actually live without many things, but this is going against Nature and I believe that Nature is part of spirituality and that spirituality is 'a little' part of Nature. So that I view sex also as a part of spirituality, since one has to go "with" Nature (in my view) to reach higher spirituality. Only then one can try to "detach" itself from it, but firt one has to knwo it.
I'm glad Shaman mentioned the connection between nature and spirituality.
The pagan beliefs and practices that align with nature are far more likely to use sex and sexuality as part of spiritual acts or ceremonies. There is a vast ammount of energy that can be tapped into through such practices, and very strong spiritual connections that can be made.
Unfortunately most of the major religions tend to frown on these activities as being sexual debauchery. For the most part I believe the major world religions seek to deny people such "sins of the flesh" as a form of control. They are no longer able to properly deal with the subject of sexuality, so they repress it instead. Even sex within a marriage is a subject considered best left unspoken.
Regards,
James.
Its all about having fun!
I too have dabbled in Tantric sex and have found great healing power and bliss through the muscle control and breathing techniques. (Hopefully my husband will one day come around and want to explore this more... instead of just dabbling... but I digress.)
I had a conversation similar to this with a good friend. His interpretation of the control organized religions has over the sexual act is that it is a way to hold the "key" to God. Sex can be a very powerful, healing act and through Organized religion adopting celebacy as a rule or vow of the clergy, they are controlling access to God. Only when we clear our minds, can we really, truly experience God. Through orgasm, our minds clear even if only for an instant... and we are able to commune with God for the duration of the orgasm.
I have a relatively quiet mind... although my mind can chatter away, I can calm it pretty quickly and generally have no problem having conversations with my guides or God. If one has a mind filled with chatter, orgasm may be the only time that one has a glimpse of God. Organized religion places emphasis on prayer and meditation as a means to access God and takes the whole sexual act out of the equation. Through the Eastern philosophies, Tantra in particuilar (since this is something I know of) I have found that an orgasm can just keep going on and on using controlled breathing techniques and muscle control. I have even found that hours later I am still in a relative state of bliss... Since it seems to go on and on, that means a greater time spent communing directly with God.
Just my take,
Kerri
a friend of mine (somewhat promiscuous) told me once that i should stay a virgin because everytime he had sex it felt like he was giving up a part of his soul to that person.
since i'm a virgin i don't know if that's true of not but i just thought i'd mention it ^_^
~kakkarot
I have heard this exact same thing told to me by an old friend.
I don't want to sound anti-christian at all, but it is very typical of a mindset brought about by controlling religious dogma.
Interesting that Robert Bruce made mention of the possible problems of sex affecting kundalini. He mentioned it would only be a problem if you think it will.
I don't advocate rampant promiscuity, but I really don't feel that we loose any part of our soul to our sex partners. It's more of a psychological or emotional thing than a soul thing.
Mind you, it is only with someone that you truly love and are bonded with that sex can produce a very powerful spiritual connection.
Just my few thoughts on the subject.
Regards,
James.
Kakkarot, it seems most likely that your friend has no spirituality with his sexuality. What he is referring to most likely seems a combination of lack of the spiritual and the "little death" from expelling energy during the act. Sex can be very fullfilling and give you more than you put in. But sex is a powerful tool that can be used to create and strength or weaken and destroy.
I agree with Kerri. Sexual/orgasmic energies are the forces of creation directly linked to the Divine. Working with these can give you that connection to it.
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I have also discovered that there is an incredibly interesting power dynamic between whoever is top and whoever is bottom.
I do see sex as a power issue, but as an equal bonding experience. But my study of Taoism on this subject reveiled something interesting. The West tends to veiw the one on top as the dominate partner or the taker, while the Taoist view this person as the giver for they are the one doing the work to give the pleasure.
I am curious how you found role playing to be good for spiritual growth. It seems like it would be more the opposite to me as you are not yourself. Or maybe you are more fully by dropping the self illusion and exploring your inner self. Please explain.
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What is the link tween sexuality and spirituality? We all know that most religions have very strict codes about sex but this isn't about that. This is about your own personal ideas adn methods you use in order to experience greater spirituality through sex.
I would like to keep this from being a flame war or overly crude.
I have found Tantric practices to be helpful as well as role playing to be good for growing more spiritually. I have also discovered that there is an incredibly interesting power dynamic between whoever is top and whoever is bottom.
feel free to comment. Mods please don't delete this unless it becomes a hideous flame war of somekind.
Jessica