The Indigo Children

[Amalthea Blueflame]

Ive been reading up very intensely lately, and I ran across a phrase, "indigo children".  It really sparked my interest, so I googled around a bit, and came upon a really professional looking site.  The guy had this huge theory, about how humans have not two, but twelve chromosomes, its just that only two are "connected" and accessible, and can be studied by the technology currently available to us.  According to him, there are ten additional strands that we don't use, but they contain the secrets to clairvoyance and telepathy and such.  The bigger theory behind that is humans were once gods themselves, with incredible psychic power and such, but some wanted to rise above and so they sparked spoken language and disconnected the ten strands.  
    So, after that point it turns into a hilarious scam called "DNA Awakening", but according to the guy he is just trying to protect and nurture a group of people who were born more sensitive to psychic power and spiritual growth, called the Indigo Children.  Another source described the condition as being often misdiagnosed as ADD or depression, and that I think is all too believable to anyone who's searched into metaphysical topics.  It is quite ironic that the masses are so caught up in the Ritalin and antidepressant craze, its quite plausible that in fact there is something far beyond the physical or psychological that is imbalanced that is accountable for the conditions.  And that's where the metaphysical theory comes in.  

So, I just posted this because its been bothering me a lot, and its next to impossible to find a truly credible source that isn't selling something... And if anybody has a comment or knows something about the topic, Id love to hear it!

[mactombs]

The "DNA awakening" thing is not original to this guy. Ever heard the Tool song "Forty-six and Two"? It's a Jungian theory ... don't know if it predates that.

Anyway, don't know if the Indigo children are total BS or just frequently BS. If, however, you take notice of children and the newest generation, you might notice something a little odd ... I can't say for certain there is something odd, so I'm not going to make any claims.

[rant]As far as ADHD goes, having been diagnosed, I dislike the New Age claptrap about it. While it is definitely over-diagnosed by people who don't even seem to try to diagnose it properly, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Furthermore, yes, everyone does have some symptoms some of the time, but not most of the time. If you've ever met a truly ADHD child or person, you'll have experience right there that it's not BS. As far as Ritalin goes, a lot of people choose not to be medicated because they find ADHD to give them strengths (it's too bad school children don't have the same choice). It's not their fault society is geared toward people with strengths in sitting in cubicles for 8-10 hour days (and I know that's a poor analogy, but bear with me).[/rant]

I think the next step in humanity's evolution isn't a new generation of genetically different kids - it'll be people communicating and allowing, people taking up their inheritance of a reality that's more than the material. By doing this, children will stop being taught to suppress anything that doesn't fit in with adults' view of reality ... then you'll start seeing some change.

[Greenrat]

Yeach i think the term indigo children is just something to express the new generation of humans as ones who will focus more on bettering there hearts, minds and souls throughout there life instead of just settling for material-normality like working a 9-5 job thinking of it as the be all and end all of being alive...
i think this new perception of seeking the truth is just a natural evolution of our species- that being down to the amount of information and ideas accessable to more people than ever..
I really beleive everyone on earth is just one whole in the end, so as one group of people evolves, so do others subconsciously because of this..so starts the chain reaction..
the people on the astral pulse for example is a connection of like minded individuals coming together and sharing there ideas. In the end were all in the melting pot.

[wizzle3]

i was perscribed ritalin then i stopped taking it because i realized how evil it was

i asked for a higher sampe dosage, so he gave me 100 pills which costed over 200 dollars or something or around there (more than 100 bucks..)

and i just took 2 of those (not at once haha)

and i said f*** this, it's horrible it ruins your soul




ps: methylphenidate (ritalin) is the same molecuel as methamphetamine, with only 2 of the atoms turned around or reversed or whatever

it's horrible

[Greenrat]

is ritalin just like ecstasy?

[Hannah b]

no, it's almost like cocaine...

[mactombs]

Ritalin to an ADHD person isn't like speed. It made me feel slow and sometimes sleepy. Yeah, it is similar to cocaine in its effect on the brain, but there are important differences. Tiny differences to the chemical makeup of a substance might seem like one thing is almost another thing ... but to a chemist, there is a big difference. And a big difference to your body.

I'm not saying Ritalin or Adderall for people who have a genuine need is a bad thing. For some people it is helpful. Information on ADHD is far more valuable, of course, and in that respect I think we should be careful of condemning it as a "fad diagnosis" exclusively, when a lot of people can benefit.

[bloodsong]

Anyone give any thought that the "indigo children" label might be an actual phenomenon occurring. Perhaps it is the next step in the awakening that is foretold by the "age of Aquarius" and the Mayan calendar, just to name a few places?

Bloodsong

[wizzle3]

ritalin isn't like coke haha

ritalin is horrible, you cant get high off it its useless..

you could but its just redicilious, abusing ritalin is a BAD idea it makes you feal like $*%&

not a good idea

sure its a stimulant, but i woudln't compare it to coke

[bloodsong]

Wizzle, the result of taking Ritalin was never compared to taking coke.  The comparison that was made was that the chemical compound is very similar.  That makes the two "related" in a way, but the results of ingesting them is quite different, as you stated.  BTW, I would strongly suggest not taking any of them!  Just take a good look at what the physical results of taking these are to the body and judge the "benefits" for yourself.

Barley green, specially formulated vitamin and mineral supplements, and Omega fatty acids, flax seed powder, borage oil and other things can be taken as an alternative.  From seeing the difference in a friends seven year old recently, I can tell you that this works and keeps the "savant factor" that some report in step with increased attention span and focus.  Talk to an alternative health professional for more information.

Bloodsong

[Ybom]

Subpost topic of ADHD,
ADHD isn't a set of symptoms that are life threatening (and just for knowledge purposes I won't say this is necessarily true; can you die from ADHD directly?) And I'm confused as to why people are always so eager to jump on a medication rather than minor lifestyle changes that could help much more. I don't like to think in the terms of 'chemical imbalance' since that's way too limiting to the person, and makes the condition seem cold and mechanical. For instance, I think all of us are chemically imbalanced to one another in some way or another. What I'm trying to say is I believe that doctors can use this diagnosis to apply to anyone if needed.

Back on topic of Indigo Children,
Homepage and Useful Linky for lazy people. I believe everyone has a potential to unlock, and I guess thinking yourself or your child to be a part of a special X-Men type of group to be beneficial in many ways, but remember this may not be as beneficial to the people who you think you or your child are better than.

[Sasuke]

I wonder why it is that whenever someone different pops up in society, we force medication or therapy or whatever else on them to "hammer down the nail," as it were?

Maybe the point is that they were never meant to 'fit in' with the rest of society. Perhaps they're meant for something else, and in trying to conform them to mediocrity we're destroying them. Hmmmm?

[James S]

I've heard many discussions about Indigo children at the spiritual college I've been a part of. Then again the people I've heard speaking about this also believe that all our spirit guides are angels or archangels. They're part of the "I'm better than you because my guide's an archangel" set.
Never mind that their real spirit guide might just happen to be their departed Uncle Bob who died in a hot-dog eating competition.

Like labelling some kids as Indigo children, it's one of those problems that can be caused by setting expectations.

Seems to me that many of these Indigo children we hear or read about are simply precocious little brats who's parents love the spotlight, and haven't the good sense to raise their children to be respectful of others. They think they're something special, someone better than others.

I agree whole-heartedly that children these days are more aware, particularly more spiritually aware than past generations, but I don't believe this special awareness is limited to just one "higher evolved" group. If people are going to keep on thinking this way, we'll end up with another Eugenics situation.

I believe all children have the potential to be "Indigo" children or crystal children. I watch kids come into my partner's new-age shop and see them all make a B-line for the crystal stands. Kids LOVE crystals, and they seem to know instinctively what to do with the crystals - how to select them, how to use them. Their natural awareness is amazing! But all kids seem to be capable of this. It tends to be up to the parents as to whether this awareness is encouraged or not.

As for doctors diagnosing ADD or ADHD  for every second hyperactive kid that is taken to them, That's total BS! That's just a typical indication that our education systems in particular are not designed to meet the needs of kids who have a high level of creativity, or there are parents who aren't willing to spend the time needed to understand their child's needs, so they'd rather stuff them full of drugs to keep them quiet

Most people with a short attention span have high levels of energy, intelligence and creativity. They get bored easily if not stimulated, so they need to be allowed to channel their energies into something creative, or sometimes severeral somethings creative at one time if they have a natural tendency towards multitasking.

Indigo children aren't the only ones that have specific needs, every child, every individual does!

[nibor]

Well, I have been "investigating" this hole DNA-awakening and indigo children thing lately. I have now landed on a site of a person named David Wilcock, that are supposed to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. He give readings, but not exactly the same as Edgar Cayce did. He also got a book published in the public, as well as some free e-books. I have started to read an e-book called "the shift of the ages", that includes subjects mentioned in this thread, and put together a very interesting theory about the universe, and the coming of the new age of Aquarius. He bases much of his reasoning on known works of many people, and sort of puts everything together. Really interesting.
Check it out:

http://www.ascension2000.com/

/nibor

[AstralSailor]

I have a site on it Or well me and 3 friends

http://www.thechildrenofthestars.com

Love and Light ^_^

[FuM]

nice freewebs template u barely have any info on star children ill find a link that has tons more btw i might be a star child but im not sure

[Rob]

Hmm, Indigo thing makes sense on a number of levels. This is a shift in ages we are moving through, and chances are its gonna get messy (infact, already is), and chances are the higher evolved spiritual beings above us know that. So doesn't it make sense that you would see more evolved souls being thrown into the mix, to try and lend a hand? All people are different, and higher evolved souls have been incarnating through history, perhaps just the numbers are going up for this time period.
I cant remember where I heard/read this (tho I do remember the background was vedic), but someone was saying that there are souls who will only incarnate at a the shift points - people who have the potential to make big changes, good or bad. Personally, I know there are peple here, now, who have not incarnated for many thousands of years, but chose to for this time period.
Similar way of looking at it if you dont like the pisces-aqarius ages thing, is that this is without question the most interesting and pivotal time in the last few thousand (5-12k) years of human hstory, so one would expect some sort of difference in the number of evolved incarnations (boddhisattva types, for instance). The point is they are coming here to help, not hinder, and what makes them different is on a soul level more than a physical level (the fear they might group and become elitist is IMO just that, a fear - although some people might look down on others cos they think they are indigo, IMO that just indicates thats not what they are   ).
Many people also think the indigo thing is linked to the UFO phenomenon and the continual alterning of human DNA by alien races, which would also make sense on some levels. The intellectual concenqueces of this cannot be used as a valid argument against the theory, however....(poke-poke-James!)

Or perhaps its all a big pile of .....  :p, but I dont think so!

Hey listen to this interview
http://interface.audiovideoweb.com/lnk/ca25win25003/archives_2004/MOM20050901.wma/play.asx

from bottom of page at:
http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/Archives/2005/archives200509.htm

(cliff web-bot is a frakking incredible guy too)
I dont think the person Ann Andrews is talking about can be classed as your usual "indigo", but it still lends to some of my points (that bit starts at 30mins in)

Rob

[TishAnna]

There is a movie available in the video stores (Hollywood Video) called "Indigo".  It's in the current releases section.  It's about this phenomenon.  It gives some information, but it also follows a story plot about a little girl.

[SiVA]

I'm sure there is indeed actual indigo/crystal children, but I think people are too quick to label a child as indigo/add/adhd just because they are not taught basic social skills and respect by their parents.

I have two children myself, and one of them could be labeled ADHD because of some of his behaviour but we are working really hard on teaching him what is the difference between appropriate and inappropriate behaviour. IT IS REALLY HARD WORK!

My wife and I have many friends who come over with their kids, and a lot of them are absolutely out of control! Here are some things that they do, which they shouldn't be doing:

1. Interupt the mother or adult when the adult is speaking with someone else.
2. Continue to argue with the mother until the mother gives up and the child gets the last word
3. Yells at the mother when things don't go their way
4. Don't address other adults with a "hi" or "good bye" upon arriving, leaving
5. Defy the mother's simple requests: "sit at the table and eat" "Wash your hands" "Use manners" etc...
6. Oh yea, Manners! None of these children are taught basic manners!

It would be so easy to label them with a disorder, simply because they are misbehaved and it is entirely the fault of the parents.

Or maybe the parents DO a good job, and the children are still hyperactive. Well, have they ever thought of looking at their diet? Most kids today are so jacked up on high fructose corn syrup from their daily dose of Fruit Loops, Soda, Junk food, sugary juices, etc... that it's no wonder they need to be medicated!

Yes there are indigo children, yes there are kids with adhd/add, but there are too many kids that are simply mis-diagnosed/mis-labeled because it's just easy to do that, instead taking the hard road and putting in the time and effort to bring the child up properly (and put them on a proper diet!).

[nightowl]

Type in "Ritalin indigo children" into google search and away you go....and by the way the bush administration is INTENT on enforced medication of your children so be warned.

[Wizard of Light]

Doreen Virtue has done a rather lot of work on the subject of Indigo, Crystal and Rainbow children.  Doreen holds 3 university degrees in counseling psychology, and has published many books, including "the crystal children" and "the care and feeding of indigo children".

According to her research and findings most Indigo children were born from 1975 - 1995 (but not all children born through this time are Indigo children).  They tend to be strong willed, independent and can be quite bad tempered.  They tend to know when they are being lied to.  They have a lot of ideas, and often got bored at school, and yes many get misdiagnosed as ADHD.  (P.S Doreen calls ADHD "Attention Dialed to a Higher Dimension!!)

Their group mission in this lifetime is to help usher out corruption and bring in integrity.  Many of the Indigo's need to learn how to channel their anger and strong emotions into constructive things to be able to fulfill this mission.

The Crystal children are currently being born between 1995 - 2015.  They tend to have huge eyes that look right into you.  They are happy babies, artistic, affectionate, love animals, know crystals and healing without being taught, very forgiving and tend not to have a temper like the Indigo children.  They are highly telepathic and are sometimes labeled autistic due to the fact that they will often start talking "late".

Their group mission in this lifetime is to help populate the planet with peace once the Indigo's have removed the corruption.

And finally the Rainbow children.  They are said to be going to begin populating the planet from 2015 (although the occasional one has come through already).  From my understanding they will not have lived on Earth before and will therefore have no karma to have to work through.  They will be born to crystal children, and will be very similar to the crystal children in nature.

And yes, while I do agree that we tend to over label people, I also like the idea that in amongst all this anger, strife and immanent war, that there is a group of people who's purpose is to help heal our planet.

[Golden Light]

I realize this topic hasn't been used in a long time however - I thought I would "resurrect" it as opposed to starting another one about the same subject.  Seemed more efficient this way?  Don't know.

My question is about Indigo "children". Crystaline children.

Could it be that if an evolution - spiritual evolution - is occurring that with each subsequent generation a larger and larger poplulation would contain slightly more evloved children? And it is only because we try to "group" things together that we have named this development and spotted it in our children? (many children)

And while I know the typical defintion of Indigo Children it doesn't fit my kids HOWEVER my son does seem different - very different.

IMO, he's very empathetic as is his sister.  Could be this is purely a family/genetic thing, but then again, maybe it is a quickening??? 

Signs my son exhibits: (atypical of most children his age)

Calm
Very very very focused
Can sit and work on a problem for hours.
Been this way from birth and in utereo he was very calm
Gets along better with adults
Doesn't "understand" kids or rather their "hyperness" - and name calling 
Empathetic of others' feelings and emotions especially when they are in discomfort
Intelligent (not genius but slightly above average I would guess)
Has a way of seeming older than he is


Example: He at 2 years of age, hubby, me, and son all in basement, showed enormous empathy for his age. I shivered and said, "Boy, I'm cold." He hopped off the couch, got an afghan that was three times his size, and dragged it across the room.  He laid it on me and said, "Mama, bankie make you warm."

Children typically have a hard time "understanding" temperature.  Many children will say they are hot when they actually mean cold.  Or visa-versa. Daughter does this regularly - mixes up temps. And many children wouldn't "know" to get a blanket at all.

He's done other things since then. 

I wonder about him as his grandparents have commented how profound he seems.  He also told me a story about where he believed we went when we die.  And this is something I HAVE NEVER EVER talked to about with him or even read anything to him. I sing one song that has the word angel in it. Other than that - None of the grandparents had either as I interrogated them. I always wanted to with-hold my "beliefs" so he could ask questions and then form his own. And I in fact, assumed someone had told him this and got a little angry. 

But his story: The angels wait for us when we die and are there to escort us (not the word he used). They are to help us get to where we are going. They come down and get us when we die and fly us home. All our relatives and animals and even our most loved toys are there for us.

Where would he come up with that? How does he know just what to say to make me feel better? Or that if I have a migraine HE, not his 40 year old father, knows to go to the freezer, pull out the ice pack and deliver it to me.  I don't ask.  He just does. When I mentioned once that my eyes hurt, he asked me BEFORE turning on the overhead light, Mommy, do you have a migraine? Cause I know the lights hurt your eyes and so I just wanted to ask before I turned them on!!!!

He's 9 now. He did all this before 9. Now, he'll try and rub my hands or neck when I'm sick. He does the same for his Daddy...and grandparents. He'll even do it for his sister although they go at eachother just like any other siblings.    I'm just weondering if anyone has a take on this stuff?

Golden Light

[lady of the ring]

Hi Golden Light

I too have a 9 year old son - he has been diagnosed as ADHD, does not conform to rules very well as he has his own set of rules.  very rejected by others cos he is misunderstood.  Allergic go ritalin - even though i am against the use of ritalin, was given the option by his primary school to give or take him out!

He remembers his birth very clearly and sees  and speaks to angels and God.  I have had him attuned to  reiki and this has helped tremendously with his self image and centredness.  His hands have been "heating up" sins a very young age and he uses this this energy for healing animals, plants, family and friends - when in the mood might I add- lol.  He is very impulsive and overly-loving/attentive and seems to have premonitions about things.

IMHO - i think that these kids are here to teach us a thing or two or three and that they still remember, where we have forgotten.  I take such delight in learning from him and am honoured that he chose me to teach.

Hope this gives some insight

Namaste

[violetlight]

this is a great thread, i completely agree with everything thats been said so far.

i have alot of experience with the indigo phenomenom- i was part of a internet group for about 8 months, and used to log on about twice a week.

when i first discovered about indigos i was over the moon.  ive always had this sense of 'not belonging' to this planet!  and when i read the characteristics i couldnt believe it.  i ticked every box.

i have to say though, i quickly decided not to wear the label.  i dont agree with putting things in a box, and i truly believe that every person on earth has 'indigo' potential.  its basically wanting more for the planet, and being a conscientious, sensitive person, instead of a predator.

some of the people in the group were amzing.  some had huge issues, which they projected onto other people, sometimes quite visciously.  just like any group of people!  they were a very varied group, but in general, most were preoccupied with the idea of ascension.

the biggest problem for most of these people, was how empathic they are. many times, new members posted, asking questions like "how do you cope with this?" and "the curse of empathy". i have to say, until you learn to shield, being empathic does feel like a curse!  you literally feel other people's emotions.  but not only that, you actually feel them more intensely than your own emotions!  its very hard, especially when youre not aware that these arent your feelings.

rage was also a huge problem for alot of them.

im not sure what i believe in now about indigos.  its undeniable that there are people who really do fit the bill. and children these days are definitly more spiritually aware.

i go with my intuition.  sometimes i meet people, and i get a really strong sense that this information will benifit them.  so i sow some seeds.  the information that comes to them, is the information they are meant to receive. how they react to it, and the conclusions they draw, are up to them.

indigo, crystal, rainbow, human be-ing.  whatever!  anything that helps people Wake, is fine by me.

much love and peace to One and All,

violet

[kiwibonga]

This indigo thread was better: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_spiritual_evolution/indigo_children-t21431.0.html

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