I am re-posting this in response to the post by Frostytraveler in the "Issue at the crossroads Astral Projection and Mysticism" topic of graphical view of the universe as depicted in the above video. I felt that, in retrospect, this should be a separate topic to the most interesting and profound views presented in the other thread.
I did not watch the above video, but that graphic is an interesting illustration of the Universe. I would like to offer an alternative view to consider, and perhaps as a reference for further discussion:
Lower Astral: - 12.5% of the Astral. These are the realms of people who on Earth were weighed down by a lower vibration due to extreme negativity, harming of others or intent to do so, pursuit of power and control over others etc., These realms are the exact vibratory correspondence of their low Astral level vibration, including an environment which seems dim, murky, misty and foreboding, void of any beauty. and where they still continue their negative and harmful traits. The upper, lower level of the Astral include the "belief system territories", where those inhabiting it are stuck in some sort of rigid belief system, religious etc. and where they can continue to practice their beliefs in religious constructs that they have created with their minds. Souls that appear to be stuck in these realms are often rescued by Souls from the mid-Astral, where there are teams are dedicated to this endeavour.
Note: These people are not permanently trapped in these lower Astral realms. When they eventually learn or realise the sheer futility of their actions, beliefs, characters etc, the vibration of their Astral body rises, and they transition to the mid-Astral. "Death" on Earth is accompanied by an increase in vibratory frequency to focussed in the etheric then Astral bodies, to automatically transition to the corresponding vibratory frequency of the Astral. In the Astral there are many such "deaths" and "resurrections" to progressively higher vibratory frequencies as evolution continues.
Mid-Astral - 75% of the Astral These are the realms where the majority of decent people transition to after passing from Earth due to the corresponding vibratory frequency of the Astral body. Same applies to Astral projectors who are similarly restricted by the vibratory frequency of the Astral body. In both cases it is impossible to go higher than their inherent vibratory frequency but can go lower, for retrievals etc. Those on Earth with a very high vibratory frequency can project throughout the Astral including the highest realms, just as those who permanently transition from Earth. can likewise do. The mid-Astral realms are constructed by the minds of people who have departed Earth, who still retain the traits of ego and materialism, which is still associated with a physical body and physical constructs, where they can continue to live as they did on Earth, except they soon discover that they can easily project into their experience anything they wish with the mind, including a body corresponding to that which they most readily associated with during their "prime of life" on Earth.
Upper Astral - 12.5% of the Astral. When the ego of people in the mid Astral finally realise the sheer futility of the desire for material things and body association, they experience an increase in vibratory frequency and "die" to the mid-Astral to be re-born within the upper Astral. These are still worlds of form, but characterised by sheer beauty, harmony and bliss, free from the earthly egotistical materialistic characteristics of the mid Astral. The Astral realms are often, and erroneously, characterised as seven levels, and hence why level seven is sometimes known as "seventh heaven" which is used on Earth to describe a blissful state of being.
The Astral realms as a whole are still at a very low vibratory frequency in comparison to the Universe as a whole, Spiritual realms and Source, and exist as an anomaly which temporarily exists as a sort of "buffer zone" between Earth and the greater Spiritual realms.
The Spiritual realms. Upon transitioning from the Astral, the previously low vibratory density of ego is left behind and the associated Soul dissipates, no longer required. The Spiritual realms and the Mental body and Mental realms of pure Spirit, beyond body and form, where Spirits live on in a state of pure consciousness. This is also the realm of the Higher Self, the Eternal Spirit, which, once perfected by the collective experience of countless physical incarnations it sends to Earth, or other planet, continues inwards on the journey home to ultimately become fully God, Source realised, at which point, the perfected Spirit views all the experiences before it for what it really is - a dream. We never really left. Once Home, all creation is fully known as Source.
The Spiritual realms cannot be described in human language, except to say they are far beyond human comprehension, such is their sheer ecstatic beauty and Love on a scale and level also far beyond earthly comprehension.
There have been many names ascribed to the Spiritual realms, and I have used a few myself in past writings for illustrative purposes, but ultimately the entire Universe is a continuum encompassing "All that Is". High Spiritual Beings that channel knowledge through Earth mediums often speak of density levels, e.g. 5, 6, 7...........11 etc, referring to vibratory frequencies, and hence nominal density, which I think is probably the most meaningful for illustrative purposes, although still a continuum.
I did not anticipate this post being as long as it became, but I hope that it at least this contribution may provide some further food for thought.
I am reposting my response here. Nice post and an excellent topic Adrian.
Much of this I agree with, as it just feels right. Especially the comment where you said the Divine can be experienced at any level. I also like how you mentioned experiencing the Divine can be done so at different vibratory level. This certainly can influence the extent of our experience.
I also agree with the 3 tiers of the Astral you referred to and the higher Spirit realms above that. I liked how you referenced humans on earth and depending on their level of evolvement, dictates where they go. I also agree that the quest for money, power, greed, excessive materialism and reckless disregard for another (a violation of the basic principle of treat others how you would like to be treated) dictates what tier of the Astral many go. I absolutely have felt that for years. When a low vibration human lives such a 1 hz life, I always said that they will be rummaging around in the lower astral for a loooong time. The God part of your post, as you know, I take a bit of a different approach to, which is fine.
It was an enjoyable read.
Quote from: Adrian on November 16, 2024, 05:16:22We never really left.
That's it! We are everywhere all at once, only changing our focus (zooming in and out) and point of view to explore everything there is in a form of stories (time, space, continuity), so the perception that we "leave" is a simulation. So we all are in the Garden, but we have a few blankets over our heads and we forgot that we are in the Garden when we put them on. When we remove them all we not only realize that we never left but we realize that we ARE the Garden.
Adrian, this description of the focus levels reminds me of the NDE experience of "Sarah" on Coast to Coast AM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrZeJiOk5uM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrZeJiOk5uM)
She vividly describes her tour through from the lower to upper astral levels of focus.