Nice post Soulfire. I do agree that each of us can make a difference, although it may not seem that way at times. In my view, the hard part is to try and live a spiritually sound life. That doesn't come easy in this crazy world.
However, what we can do for others is important. Things like listening, being patient, taking out an elderly neighbor's trash, and so on. These are the little things that come up every day. They are, imho, important (at least for me) to remember to do and keep doing.
So thanks for the topic and the post. Also, if you'd rather I move it to the Spiritual Development forum, just pm me. It might be a good place for this type of thread.
All the best,
I've been toiling for approximately 3 hours how to properly post a reply to this topic! There is so much oversimplification going on with the world peace issue, but I admit that it is a project worth persuing.
Is there a possibility, that with the stagnance of peace (the concept that with peace that we will lose our will and knowledge as to how to properly defend ourselves given a new emergency), that we can still know how to deal with those things that come our way that drastically changes all of our lives?
As for the concept to help others, I think a better way to reach this goal is to teach them how to help themselves. "Give a person a loaf of bread and you feed that person for a day. Teach the person how to make bread and you feed that person for life." Which we would need to incorporate how to teach people to understand and accept others. Do this to 6 billion people and you have world peace. Teach others how to share resources with others and no one goes hungry. Teach people how to use what resources they have to its maximum potential and you have growth. Now, to properly do all of these, we will need to develop a system that handles these issues, better than any group or political body out there today. Would anyone have an idea where to find or how to develop a system like this?
Anyhoo, I am not posing this post to hurt or challenge the commitment of the goal of world peace. If you see this post as in that light, or in any way similar, please PM me and we will handle this on the sidelines (sort of a just in case paragraph hehe).
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Originally posted by Ybom
I've been toiling for approximately 3 hours how to properly post a reply to this topic! There is so much oversimplification going on with the world peace issue, but I admit that it is a project worth persuing.
My attempt here is born of the philosophy that any positive step, however small, is better than nothing. :)
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Originally posted by Ybom
Is there a possibility, that with the stagnance of peace (the concept that with peace that we will lose our will and knowledge as to how to properly defend ourselves given a new emergency), that we can still know how to deal with those things that come our way that drastically changes all of our lives?
Anything is possible. I have rather radical beliefs about how "reality" works that most people do not share, but according to MY beliefs there is never any need for non-peaceful actions unless we create that need from the violence we carry within ourselves. Even then, I think there is always a non-violent solution unless our beliefs prevent us from seeing peaceful solutions or prevent them from working.
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Originally posted by Ybom
As for the concept to help others, I think a better way to reach this goal is to teach them how to help themselves. "Give a person a loaf of bread and you feed that person for a day. Teach the person how to make bread and you feed that person for life." Which we would need to incorporate how to teach people to understand and accept others. Do this to 6 billion people and you have world peace. Teach others how to share resources with others and no one goes hungry. Teach people how to use what resources they have to its maximum potential and you have growth. Now, to properly do all of these, we will need to develop a system that handles these issues, better than any group or political body out there today. Would anyone have an idea where to find or how to develop a system like this?
There is always a better way, and some of the things you describe here could very well all be better ways. Again, my intention here was just to take a small step in the right direction. I know in my personal life, it makes a HUGE difference if I spend a small amount of time EVERY DAY day focusing on something empowering. It keeps my energy much more focused on what is important to me all day long, even if I only invest a few moments to this. My hope was that maybe a lot of other people would find this true for themselves as well and that cumulatively the energy and focus created would be enough to make some kind of noticable difference. :)
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Originally posted by Ybom
Anyhoo, I am not posing this post to hurt or challenge the commitment of the goal of world peace. If you see this post as in that light, or in any way similar, please PM me and we will handle this on the sidelines (sort of a just in case paragraph hehe).
I thought you post was great with a lot of very worthwhile thoughts. Thanks for taking the time to respond... :)
--Soulfire
I think the problem is you won't find many more people than those who are already concerned whit this. I simply think most people are not ready for this kind of commitment, because they are still to much caught up in the game of the masses.
You try to learn people moral virtue, but if they won't listen nothing will happen. That's why I think it is better to make a strong argument to people why they need to change their life on a personal bases, because when they immediately benefit from your teachings personally, by leading a moral and spiritual life, they automatically become aware of the futility of war and human suffering on the planet.
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"Give a person a loaf of bread and you feed that person for a day. Teach the person how to make bread and you feed that person for life."
Wasn't this fish and fishing ? [:)]
Good idea indeed![:)]
Life seems useless and wasted without helping others...
It'll be easier if we're more people ready to do our best to make things better. Yes, it's hard, but it's not impossible - and it's the right choise.
I hope that topic will expand untill everyone become participants.
Best wishes[:)]
Hey this is a really cool idea. I think i'll participate in it.
As for my friends and telling them, heh, they're lazy bums. They wouldn't do it. (yes, i'm lazy too but i'll do anything to try and help the world[:)])
awesome idea
I'll try to get some more members [;)]
I like your idea!
Here are my thoughts:
Spam email is an idea I've come up with as well. My idea was to put inspiring quotes and pieces of insight into it. We can't force people into changing themselves, which is the only way to change the world. You can't change a group of people by force, but change has to come from within a person. So why not try to inspire people and give them a push in the right direction? I already have a nice collection of quotes and insights that we could use.
The first step to world peace is to let people become more conscious, so lets help them!
Greets,
Tony
I think its a exelent project, i shall certainly take my part. but the problem i see is...
If we help others then we are showing them that there are nice people in this world and hopefuly set a example, and indeed its far beter to show sombody how to Make the bread and feed themselves BUT the problem is there are people out there who just blaintly WANT to be selfserving and cruel, how would we help them, because with thease people still there %100 peace will be very hard.
im not trying to create a flaw to this buetiful idea, more hoping we can come up with a anser.
PS. HI people im new here ! [:)]
SpirituallySeeking:
This will just take time. We won't see world peace in 10, 20 or 30 years. Maybe in the far future. But it's still important to start contributing to it right now.
Hi,
I often think about all the fear and hate in the world, and sometimes it feels like the problem is so BIG that there is nothing I can do to make a significant difference. Last night I got the idea that if I could find other people who also want to help, that maybe TOGETHER we CAN make a difference. The idea is to make a very small committment to add love and compassion to the world in our own way and try to find other people who might be interested in helping:
1. Make a personal committment to spend just one minute a day praying for world peace, or sending out feelings of love to the rest of the world, or doing WHATEVER FEELS RIGHT to add to the energy of love and compassion in the world EVERY DAY. Something small that does not feel like a burden or sacrifice, so that you will stick with it. As long as it somehow adds love to the world and is something more than you were doing before, it will make a difference. Then by following step 2 and finding other people willing to do the same thing, collectively it will mean a LOT more love in the world than there was before! :)
2. Send copies of this post or a similar letter of your own design to all your friends offering them the opportunity to do likewise. I normally hate spam e-mail, but it seems like a good way to get people involved. Please don't add something like "you will get good luck if you do this and something bad will happen if you don't do this" trying to force pople to participate. Just give people the opportunity to participate and let them know they will not be alone in doing it. It doesn't matter how you tell other people, whether it be e-mail or maybe making posts on other forums like this one or mentioning the idea in conversation to your friends, or anything else you can think up to share this opportunity with others. Whatever feels right to you.
If every person who wants to help can find 2-3 other people who also want to help, just think after a month or year or ten years how many NEW people would be having these thoughts of peace and love every day that did NOT have them before. Even if you don't believe in prayer, just the daily awareness of this by so many people would make a difference. Maybe put a reminder somewhere you are sure to see it every day to make sure you remember to do whatever you agreed for your minute a day. Please, if you think this is a good idea, take some action towards doing it RIGHT NOW before you get caught up in other things or forget.
Thanks for taking to time to read this, and I sincerely hope you will decide to do this. It really costs you nothing and I sincerely believe that collectively we can make a significant difference if we all take a moment to care and work together!
--Soulfire