today i have losted my last feeling as a human as an emotional creature, today i have become a complete empty vessel.
I AM DEAD
i have no words 2 put this as it is 2 much
i suffered in my life as i was a very emotional type of man and never believed that not feeling could felt so bad
i am dead inside, and now i believe that i will even die 4 good as there is not much 4 me to repay my mistakes with pure love and compation as there is nothing sad no more nor happy, as there is no more beauty nor uglyness, not even cold as heartless ppl are called.
As there is nothin left for me, i am lost, i felt in the dark abyss
Could you please say a bit more about how you arrived at all of these conclusions? It is hard for me to imagine what the condition you are describing would feel like or how it could have been caused. How are you so certain that your condition will not change again for the better?
QuoteHow are you so certain that your condition will not change again for the better?
Good question.
Dark Heaven, I've been where you are. You know that feeling of chasing empty winds. That feeling of no feeling. That emptiness. That void. That perpetual nothingness. Yes, I've been here, felt it, and it was a very depressing phase and had I not made a concentrated effort to climb out of this abyss, I would have dissolved into abject darkness. I also felt as if I was dead.
However, if my life is any hope for you, I did overcome the darkness and today, while I am not 'happy', I am content with who I am and forever growing. In my humble opinion that is better than happiness, in fact I define happiness as contentment. Do not let yourself erode away. Make an effort to get out. That is all you need to do - that is the only thing you can do.
I do not promise you happiness or contentment, but I promise you hope. Hope for life, and one day you will have life. It may not be tomorrow, next year, or several years. It may not even be in this life. Yet, living your moments with hope, is better than living your moments with nothing.
No amount of counsel ling, therapy, medication will replace hope. Save your soul with hope.
I always tell people who seek some consoling from me, that this life is but a heart beat in this universe. If you skip this beat, there will be another.. and another... and another. So, you have nothing to lose but your soul by dwelling on your problems in this life. Your problems will not solve themselves. Only you can solve them.
What is it that you lack? Love, compassion, peace? Why do you lack them? How do you define them? Where do you think you will get them? Ask yourself these questions. The solution is not outside - it's inside. Only you have the solution.
I hope I was of some help
Peace
Data
Well, I died a long time ago.
The people of this planet call it "birth."
Telos: i consider birth as well death, but where i am now...there are no words of comparison
data: there is no feeling of depression...no effort to be done as there is nothing, all i can do for some time is simulate feelings in my mind
if i'll get out of this this life time, i hope so as there will not be any spiritual progress for me if not...
but can i say i hope? now i "feel" better then never that hope is not an idea as once i believed, it's a feeling...and all i can is to believe that i feel
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What is it that you lack? Love, compassion, peace? Why do you lack them? How do you define them? Where do you think you will get them? Ask yourself these questions. The solution is not outside - it's inside. Only you have the solution.
there is no more love inside of me, compassion none but i will never stop in helping others for free without expectations
peace i have as i am no warrior and i have no war to fight as i let the great river of life take me where it wants, where i am needed, trough all sort of situations
maybe i need an emotional sock, maybe i need to be reborn or amnesia...maybe i don't need anything but one thing i know for sure, there is nothing without feelings or emotions
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Could you please say a bit more about how you arrived at all of these conclusions? It is hard for me to imagine what the condition you are describing would feel like or how it could have been caused. How are you so certain that your condition will not change again for the better?
there are no conclusions, only knowing and emptiness inside where once there was love, suffering, joy, regret...and all the feelings
what it caused it...well i do not know but maybe it is another desire of mine come true, as i said when i was little i was very emotional and many times i wondered if i would have felt better empty....
certain i am not but this state of mine every day got worst never better till now
i must say that this could be a huge blockage on my heart and solar chakras caused by fear but i never was a very scared human
thank you
you have blocked solar plexus chakra, one of the things it governs is joy of life
the love is still inside you, although you do not feel it
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there is no more love inside of me, compassion none but i will never stop in helping others for free without expectations
helping others, what do you think it is ? love
you do not give love
you give, and this is love
well please don't contemplate suicide mate
it is not any better there than here
the suicide realm in spirit
SUX
anxiety and depression are cyclical
and have spiritual ( negative attachments and blockages)
physical ( chronic pain or illness )
chemical( imbalance )
emotional ( past issues not dealt with )
and /or mental ( psychotic neurotic ) causes
Depression can be cured
find out why you are like this
GET PROFESSIONAL HELP TODAY
and fix it here
and just because a person can't see joy here on earth
does not mean they will get joy there either
after their departure the grass will not be greener
only more barren and boring and sad and anxious and depressing
the suicide realm is a place of despair and misery guts
filled with others that have done the same deed
you don't get out of the game
it just makes it worse
nothing is better when one just changes venues
if we change the scenery and not ourselves
we take the emotional baggage with us
If you cannot find love and light here
how will you learn to find it there ?
...very difficult
in the land of the eeyores
how does one find joy in worry world ?
....only by getting out of it
and here is easy to get out of friend
but
there is not so easy to leave
you can't really "live" yourself again when you have a wave of sudden happiness and get an impulse can ya ?
some have to wait until they should have died on earth
to go to higher happier planes
some get to make amends with rellies
and help them to forgive this selfish act
and the pain it caused loved ones
and that gives them brownie points to leave earlier
some reach out and pull some one up
from the abyss and give them hope
and show them how to work it out
and they get brownie points for that too
but there is no cable tv there or mtv no pizza no beer
no sunsets no puppies no chocolate
forget my silly list
look at what you would miss !
and who would you miss
and who would miss you ?
if you can't see spirit or angels now
you will learn to see in time there
but while you wait to be able to speak and hear there
what would happen in your head ??
conscious without rest
no blanket to pull over your head
no corner to escape the suffering
here we have so many ways to escape
and better yet ways to find happiness
thoughts of self despair and pity
are not worth having
and do nothing
to make you feel better
or to make the world a better place
so smile
get on with it
it is so much easier to find happiness here
and to fix things up again
so find your happy spot
and get on with life
do what makes you feel real and alive
but first do no harm
life is too short
enjoy it before it is over
i don't see in suicide an escape nor solution
i've been for a very long time and many times depressed but this is not the case now...there is nothing that is the problem...not much time ago i was so glad if i was depressed as it was the only way i could access feelings but if i went to deep in it, to glad, of course it went away
there is no fear and no anxiety
there is nothing
there must be a very sad place if there is no chocolate
about life...it has her beauty...in everything...i've learn that even more...i see that...but how could i enjoy all this...i can't return a smile 2 the moon...i can't cover the world with my love..."i can't smell the flowers"....
as i am a big block of stone...but there is hope for me as not even stone can hold it forever as there is rain and wind and floods and cold and heat
no this is not a case about suicide
well thank you for your reply
you have lightened my heart
i love your words especially
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there must be a very sad place if there is no chocolate
and
..i can't return a smile 2 the moon...
why not put them into poetry or lyrics ?
some of the best songs were written
under the angst of a period of sorrow
Perhaps you do not know or like the music of Phil Collins
but i loved his work for a period of my life
and in an interview he said that this most prolific stage of his life
had come out of the overwhelming despair
he felt when his wife left him
When he realised he had not appreciated her
and had taken her love for granted
and abandoned her so many times on tour
and then she was not there ever again
she did not want him like the fans did
she was his rock
and now in all the crowds and fame
he was alone
and in crisis
struggle and pain is one edge of the mirror
the other side is the reward the growth and the development
that comes spiritually
when we learn the lesson of sorrow
and do not have to repeat that particular aspect again .
I wrote this song when my second husband left me
while i was pregnant with his son
and very poor
and a new immigrant to Australia
with no adult rellies here
my children and I from the first marriage
lived not far from the beach
but so far from the city then
that you could hear the bush
and see a roo round here back then
it made me feel good to sing loudly
on the beach alone at night
while i crashed my bare legs into the surf
(along the edge of where the ocean meets the land
like Counting Crows style )
the roaring surf of the ocean was my back up rhythm section lol
with freezing needles of wind on your wet legs
you begin to feel alive again
at that point in the circle
just around the corner from death
I heard this gorgeous kookaburra laughing
when i was feeling that sorry for myself .
It called so merrily from the bush
that i thought i should be happy
and felt ashamed i was not
it is my favourite bird afterall
because it is so cheeky
and steals sandwiches from wine sipping ladies lol .
and a bit of a smile came out then despite myself
And it's raucous laugh should wake the most stone of hearts .
But like you i was deep in the sorrow time so i cried more
and thought there is no one here to share it with .
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The full moon's on the rise ,
there's stardust in your eyes ,
but now i dance alone
Lonely
i cry down the moon ,
too far away to be ,
comfort or company .
the kookaburras call,
brought no one here at all ,
i walk this bush alone.
Lonely
i cry down the moon ,
her skies cry back on me
in futile sympathy
Summers rain falls down ,
it barely wets the ground ,
and i walk on alone.
Lonely
i cry down the moon ,
too far away to be ,
comfort or company
dreamers wont you show
wherefore i must go,
so i wont be alone ?
Lonely , i cry down the moon
she's lonely just like me
faded stars for company
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SMiLe Life is Good
itz happy round the corner
Perhaps you should consider another career besides computers. Besides attaining Buddhahood, my goal in this life is to get out of Information Technology for good. I am dead as well, but perhaps not to the extent you are. When you work around lifeless red cells all day long, it's tough to not let their negative energy affect you. That's why I stay in my office and don't really come out :lol:
I do feel though. I think :shock:
Kevin
Perhaps you should consider another career besides computers. Besides attaining Buddhahood, my goal in this life is to get out of Information Technology for good. I am dead as well, but perhaps not to the extent you are. When you work around lifeless red cells all day long, it's tough to not let their negative energy affect you. That's why I stay in my office and don't really come out :lol:
I do feel though. I think :shock:
Kevin
I think that what you achieved is called a "destruction of ego", or Nirvana. It is a state when you don't care about anything anymore. Many spiritual people desire a state what you could call "dead inside", and even what Budda taught is a straight way to autodestruction
Also to RedCatherine:
I think that all these "suicide realms" are for people who don't have spiritual knownledge and commit suicide out of depression. If I will die by suicide I will certainly not let myself be controlled and imprisoned in some silly worlds in the name of "spiritual development". I'd rather reincarnate and enjoy the game of life again. I think that you can be "controlled" after life only if you let others to control you.
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it is not any better there than here
the suicide realm in spirit
SUX
Living because of fear of dying is wrose that anything else. Why do all religions have to control people by fear?
So you are neither happy nor sad?
No love no hate just a mindless zombie?
I have always heard that Work on the heart chakra can heighten emotion even to a dangerous point if not regulated.
Why not try to work on the heart chakra maybe that will help you never really know till you try.
It might bring your emotions back.
if this is nirvana...it sux man believe me there is not that peace...peace of mind and spirit it is just that i don't feel...well yes i am not stressed, depressed not much of a worry so yes it has advantages but...
what can i say, so many times we confuse love with passion...so many times we r consumed by our desires
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Living because of fear of dying is wrose that anything else. Why do all religions have to control people by fear?
how can u control a man differently? with money? not all of them but we all fear of something as we are so attached to this world...fear of fire as it could burn down our homes of destruction, of being bold, and so many things
about poems :)
i use to....sometimes
my final goal ultimate silence
if i am close, well i could be
thank you all
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well i work on my heart chakra, from time 2 time, i work most on my root and 3rd eye, and my crown started these days working...
thank you
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about computers...i take some kind of pleasure in what i do and they keep me company till some point
Hi Darkheaven,
Been there, done that, got that T-shirt :twisted:
To best describe it, I would say Gray, gray, gray .... not even black and white anymore - and colors? ... What are they ? .... I hardly remember anymore.
And how did I get there?
Well - to put it short, back when I didn't know squat about emotions (in my pursuit for happiness and inner peace), I didn't realize, that emotions ALWAYS comes in pairs, and by shielding yourself from the "bad" emotion (or suppressing it in your self, like I did), you automatically "shield" yourself from the "good" emotion in that pair. (And - a little knowledge that is good to know, the opposite of Love is NOT hate, but indifference - and the opposite of Hate is not Love, but Forgiveness :wink: )
Why is that? ... Well, I think, that it is because each emotion in its core contains the absolute promise of the "opposite" emotion. (It's like when you are HAPPY, and become aware that you are happy, you also KNOW, that the more happy you are, the "harder" the fall into the opposite emotion..... and when you have experienced that enough times, you start by "shutting down" your "bad" emotion, and over time, you automatically shuts down the "happy" emotion as well, because it points directly to the "bad" emotion.
So what did I end up with? ... Well, I found, that Emotions doesn't disappear just because I can't feel them anymore(!) ... They are there, believe me!!! ..... You just feel them more "physically" now - like a churning in the stomach, an aching back, a sore neck etc. (They have to be there somewhere, and the only place is you body - so there they are). I have (over time) found, that once i feel that churning in the stomach, my "mind" automatically "shields" my consciousness from the feeling associated with the "churning" - and I don't "feel" any feelings.
I find that now, as I am rapidly on my way back (And I will get to how in just a second), that it is like I am a big container filled with little balloons, each with it's own emotion (or more correctly that specific energy), and my consciousness is "drifting" inside this container, and being constantly pounded, pressed, squeezed etc. by all the balloons. When it was "the worst" for me, it was like the container was filled to the brink, and I had no where to turn - hence the "gray blanket" feeling, or as you describe it - No feelings.
So, how did I "turn" the direction I was headed? .... Simply put, I started to actively USE the "bad" emotions inside of me. (Or more correctly the "energy" I felt). Remember, that each emotion contains in it's core the absolute promise of the "opposite" feeling? .......
And the most important thing - THE EVERYDAY SITUATIONS IN YOUR LIFE WILL ALWAYS "POINT" TO THE FEELINGS/ ENERGY INSIDE OF YOU THAT ARE NEXT IN LINE FOR YOU TO WORK WITH.
Here the hard work begins, because you have to be as honest about how YOU feel, when you are in a specific situation. No illusions, no shields - just how do I feel, when I look at this "specific" feeling inside of me.
Once you have located the feeling you have associated yourself with, you have to accept yourself EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE FEELING THIS ....... And this is like "training" yourself in that feeling - with the goal that you eventually find, that you have become "transparent" to that energy inside of you.
The Basic sentence for EFT that I would recommend to you is, that "the cause of all negative emotions is a disruption in the body's energy system". It's like the "buzz" that comes just a millisecond before the feeling hits you - or the inside shield takes effect, what ever comes first).
And here I find, that EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique - really comes as a fast and helping hand!! ... Read more on www.emofree.com - it's free, there is a great manual, and it's fast to use!!
For me, EFT feels like it "deflates" the individual balloons inside of me. Yup - it's hard work, slow, tedious, sometimes pain-full - and when feelings are applied, and you are working with your inside, remember that "the opposite" is ALWAYS a good place to look if you are stuck somewhere, and if you can't feel anything, it's probably because you ARE that feeling - so get used to "shift" back and forth between Observing a feeling somewhere inside of you, and observing yourself BE that feeling.
And slowly, ever so slowly, you become more and more "transparent", by accepting a little piece of yourself at a time, sort of "bringing it home". It's like a HUGE bowl of spaghetti, where you have to carefully untangle each and every strand, and sort of "re-learn" your feelings....
So, to give you a starting point - what do you feel, when you experience this No Feeling inside of you ? .... My guess would be Hopelessness, Disillusions or despair etc. etc. Remember, if you can Observe the feeling you guess you feel, then it is NOT that one - it is WHAT YOU FEEL, and not what you THINK you feel!!! .... (Or what you WANT to feel, or MUST feel, or ......)
Start with them ..... and remember to actively FEEL those "hard" feelings, as you apply EFT to your self - don't do as I did in the start, and "shield" yourself from those feelings, when I tried to work with them.
Over time, this becomes sort of a "Hunt" inside of you - like a fun "game" to occupy time otherwise spent looking aimlessly at the Grey inside of you :P
(Embarrassing situations from you former life becomes a PERFECT training scenario, like a perfect "pointer" or "helper", that enables you to "tune in" to your REACTION to the embarrassing situation).
It's like slowly "training" your emotions, to get into shape there as well.
Don't suppress your "dark" side - USE it instead, learn to accept yourself EVEN when you are angry, sad, feeling lonely, feeling scared etc...
A bad person is NOT defined by how he/she feels or thinks - but by how he/she ACTS and TALKS !!!!!! ......
I have found, that the "missing pieces" inside of me often identifies themselves as little "pin-pricks" in my mind just before a difficult situation... Learn to be observing inside of your self, so you can "follow" those little pin-pricks back to their source. It's like totally "freezing" your mind for a short moment, get a "Sense" of the nature of the pin-prick/shield/feeling/emotion ...... and then remember that "state" when you apply EFT.
And the most difficult thing in this? ... actually it is to get started! ... and it is to realize, that YOU have to do something ACTIVELY in order to change your situation!!! ....
Many compassionate thoughts - and HAPPY HUNTING INSIDE YOURSELF!!!!
thank you
i am now whaiting for the manual
Well yeah, it is not depression -but it is. I use to say to others 'I am not depressed, I just can't feel anything and that is why I feel empty and feel as I am living a nothingness..
The truth is I was depressed, because if I wasn't, I would not be mourning over life. If I was not depressed; I would be celebrating it.
There are only two emotions. The rest are just varying degrees of these emotions. That is love and fear. I say I wasn't depressed, as do you, but I certainly was not close to love. Therefore I must have been close to fear.
I never acknowledged I was in fear. The truth is I was. I feared life. I feared living in constant pain and boredom. I honestly was on the verge of losing my soul. My ego would not accept it. However, deep down in my subconscious I lived in darkness and wallowed in self-pity.
Many serial killers, say they are not depressed, they even claim to derive a sadistic pleasure from the hunt and kill, yet deep down they report fear of their victims. If they were not depressed, would they be so fearful, that they would kill in cold blood?
There are two solutions to a problem:
1. Identifying, knowing and understanding the problem
2. Finding the solution
You will continue to live in this emptiness, until you do not acknowledge the root of your problem, know it and understand it. Now, this is your understanding and only yours, but as I have gone through what you have and have an understanding of it, and an empathy with you, I can in my greater wisdom - tell you it is fear.
I gathered that you are quite morbid, and into dark themes, I hope that does not include self mutilation. I am not going to impose on your beliefs and interests, but I will share with you something that has been verified through psychological case studies, that people who espouse such dark interests, are also likely to have suicidal tendencies.
I understand that by engaging in these interests, you feel a sense of relief, release or escape, you may even call this a pleasure. It IS actually a pleasure. It releases adrenaline into our body and gives us a temporal sense of freedom. In fact, those who self-mutilate, also feel pleasure. Yet, ask yourself, what kind of pleasure needs pain to bring it about?
I have pleasure also at times(rarely) and I can bring it about through love, compassion, creative expression. Is that not better than giving yourself pain?
If pain is what gives you pleasure or listening to music about pain, then does it surprise you, that your state of being is painful?
If you have a disposition to spirituality, you will know how 'vibrations' is such an important and crucial aspect of it. You will know how certain sounds and colours can raise ones vibrations.
Can we agree that souls who are more peaceful, loving, compassionate, have higher vibrations? Can we agree that souls who are more despondent, miserable, mournful, empty, have lower vibrations?
Can we agree that light has higher vibrations than dark?
If we can, then what is it that you think you should be doing? I won't answer this question for you.
The solution is not complex, it is about creating an inner peace by making an effort to integrate peace into your life and facilitating this by surrounding yourself with positive thoughts, colours, sounds objects and environments.
Heal thyself.
Peace
Data
if i would have been depressed i wouldn't say that i'm dead...hell, when i am depressed i fell so alive much more alive then when i feel happy, why? cause i have to taste all life in all forms...pain, fear, love, hate
if a live in a denial, not my style, if there is a denial at a subtle level could be...
i do not take any pleasure in hurting others, i do not take any pleasure in hurting myself => i don't do it
i don't like pain in any form...i really don't like pain but i am not scared of it, if i need 2 "suffer a little" for my own good i don't refuse it
"dark heaven" is a concept about material world, this world, it has nothing with the spiritual one...
my pic?...nice one heh... :) now now....i like dark art as much as i enjoy "light" art...i find beauty in all forms and things, i won't reject something because is not in my belief system as i don't have one i think :)...
if something is created is created from the same "material" as we are all and must serve a purpose so i can't say dark/malefic/morbid or lovely/and all that
well yes there is goth and there is the rest :P
but most of the goth art is not art, ppl with bad taste created all kind of things...so there is not much left of it, but what is left is much higher then dead bodies and blood and all that....why am i talking about this :lol:
anyway i have just opened my eyes, waiting to fully wake up...
not sunny outside :(
Hello, Darkheaven, nice to meet another Romanian here :lol: !
About depression... hm shall I say that I would have recognize where you are from only from your description :wink: ?
It sounds in a way soooo familiar... No offense :roll: .
For the others, who might not be acquainted to what I am saying :lol: , this could be called depression, but it's also a particular taste for living beyond duality, we experience here. It sounds like too much, mostly we are not aware of this, but still, it is in the air here. Like not being attracted by death, but playing in it's presence up and now, not interested in it (please, we are not morbid creatures), but using it as a reminder that this life is not as real as it may seem. It's even in the folk culture...
And this:
Quote from: darkheavenif i would have been depressed i wouldn't say that i'm dead...hell, when i am depressed i fell so alive much more alive then when i feel happy, why? cause i have to taste all life in all forms...pain, fear, love, hate
if a live in a denial, not my style, if there is a denial at a subtle level could be...
I had a similar experience, just before getting involved into yoga meditation :lol: , I feel that what you describe here the dissolution of the ego. Does it make sense? If we are not this body, not these emotions, not these thoughts (which are all manifestation forms of the lower self), well when we get prepared to go beyond these, this can be experienced as a form of death. Ego is dying, the self comes forth :) . It can be scary or bring forth depressions, until one is not entirely aware of what is happening. But in the same time one also experience a deeper sense of satisfaction and safety.
For me it was feeling like loosing ground and experiencing a strange, incredible balance, simultaneously. Like being torn apart and still stronger then ever. I suppose this is the Self: not supported, because it is its own support.
If one can maintain this state of non duality, the spiritual growth is so rapid!
All the best to all!
Hey, darkheaven, where are you from? If you are from Bucharest, too, there is a concert some yogi friends of mine a giving, you are most welcome. :) Music and tee and Indian cakes. You'll cheer up a bit.
Ana
Nice avatar, Kevin :lol:
Quotei would have been depressed i wouldn't say that I'm dead
No, that is exactly what you would say.
Quoteif a live in a denial, not my style, if there is a denial at a subtle level could be...
Work on that thought of "could be" this is the most progressive thing you have said.
Quotei don't like pain in any form...i really don't like pain but i am not scared of it, if i need 2 "suffer a little" for my own good i don't refuse it
Everything is for your own good. Even what you may call bad.
Quotemy pic?...nice one heh... now now....i like dark art as much as i enjoy "light" art...i find beauty in all forms and things, i won't reject something because is not in my belief system as i don't have one i think
If there is light, you need darkness to know the light. If there is darkness, you need light to know the darkness.
You don't know the darkness, because you don't know the light. You are dead remember? Is that light or dark?
I know the answer to this. But I am not going to answer it for you.
You said you don't have a belief system, so is it your belief you don't have a belief system? You do have a belief system actually. You believe in duality and relativity. I had that belief system too once. When I realized that this belief was the source of my problems, I did what you would do if a thorn was stuck in your body - I discarded it. Does it not surprise you then, that you no longer feel or you cannot differentiate between love and hate, when that is exactly what you believe in.
It' it's only relative in the objective world. Yet your life is a subjective experience. So, your belief system is not compatible with your being.
How do you differentiate between these two people?
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Bundy is believed to have been a sociopath. He was intelligent, educated, personable, handsome, and charming, but nevertheless regularly brutally murdered women and girls, usually with a blunt instrument, sometimes by strangulation. He would also often sexually assault his victims before and after death.and
Mother Teresa taught at St. Mary's High School in Calcutta, but the suffering and poverty she glimpsed outside the convent walls made such a deep impression on her that in 1948 she received permission from her superiors to leave the convent school and devote herself to working among the poorest of the poor in the slums of Calcutta. Although she had no funds, she depended on Divine Providence, and started an open-air school for slum children. Soon she was joined by voluntary helpers, and financial support was also forthcoming. This made it possible for her to extend the scope of her workYou come here on this forum, and tell us your dead. Is it because you want life and want us to help you find it? Or is simply a promulgation to tell us who you are. Because, it does not sound like you want to change who you are.
And, although I am making an effort to help you understand, by bringing the horse to the water so to speak, I am now not even sure whether you are thirsty or not. If you are not, please accept my sincere apologies. I know how offensive it is to be advised by people, when you don't want it. I have a friend who is always doing that.
Quoteif something is created is created from the same "material" as we are all and must serve a purpose so i can't say dark/malefic/morbid or lovely/and all that
A parasite or virus is created from the same material as we are. Does that make a parasite good for us?
Simply because there is something, does not mean it's right for you.
Quoteanyway i have just opened my eyes, waiting to fully wake up...
not sunny outside
So, are you saying you want light now? What is it that you want from me, or others here, Dark Heaven?
If you want me help, I will go all out in helping in you to the best of my abilities. But, if you don't want it, then I will respect you for that too. At the end of the day, it's your path, it's your life.
sweetbliss: yup i am from there...here...nice 2 see u 2 :)
data do u like 2 play computer games or do u like the sky or some sort of food or drink?
well that's how i like sunny mornings...and darkness...and light
if ur offended in my nickname u can call me eddie, simple as that
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You believe in duality and relativity.
no i don't :)
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Is that light or dark?
in only one word !!! EVOLUTION !!! ....long story....
How do you differentiate between these two people?
one is on the 2nd floor and the other on the 5th...they have both done what they need it...i never blamed murderers
most of the reasons are stupid (for me) but good enought for them as probably for me if i was in there shoes
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A parasite or virus is created from the same material as we are. Does that make a parasite good for us?
it does not make it bad
well now...a sunny morning :P
I AM HERE FOR HELP, ANY ADVICE IS MOST WELLCOME AND I WILL DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR ME
i was offered last night the chance 2 get out
seems like there is love inseide me that is what i found out, but time flys... 0_o
one more thing...seems like emotions are broth 2 physical level now...all kind of new pains
i'll post later
thank you all
and one more thing in the end
...within the eternal harmony between end and infinity...
Watch a comedy.
Listen to a great album.
Take your mother to lunch.
Go for a walk, and notice.
Smell a flower.
Have a hot bath.
Do these things, and tell me how you feel.
I said: You believe in duality and relativity
Quoteno i don't
Yes you do. I think it is becoming quite apparent that you don't actually really understand what you write:
Quoteparasite or virus is created from the same material as we are. Does that make a parasite good for us?
it does not make it bad
QuoteHow do you differentiate between these two people?
one is on the 2nd floor and the other on the 5th...they have both done what they need it...i never blamed murderers
most of the reasons are stupid (for me) but good enought for them as probably for me if i was in there shoes
In philosophy this is called moral and ethical relativism.
QuoteAM HERE FOR HELP, ANY ADVICE IS MOST WELLCOME AND I WILL DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR ME
What do you need advice for? You don't actually acknowledge a problem. There is no solution, if there is no problem.
I have not actually offered a solution yet. I've left that for you to do. What I have done is tried to explain your problem to foster some understanding about it through experience and logic. However, you are unwilling to test your own beliefs. So, what can I do?
The best way to test your own belief and the validity of your own perception and thinking, is by looking for contradictions or inconsistencies in your thoughts. I have found quite a few in your thoughts.
I guess, the only thing you can work on is what you said earlier from your own mouth, the issues of "denial" on a subtle level of thought. Good luck in your search within. I think I can conclude my efforts :)
Did you know that the only way you can have a spiritual rebirth is to first have a spiritual death?
I can imagine how you feel, but this is also an opportunity to shed all the deadweight from your soul, and rebuild and refine. So many of the emotions we feel stem from our over-inflated egos. Perhaps this is an opportunity to look for the deeper self, whose sense of "feelings" are much different than what we're used to.