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HiRes

My girlfriends mom, Michelle D., has had Lupis for awhile. I believe it was caused by a Black Magic spell my girlfriend cast, that killed someone. >.>; (she was raped by her moms friend, so she cursed him)
Would it be possible to for someone to send healing her way? She is a real good person, and really needs help.
It would be much appreciated, so I thank anyone who helps in advance :]

*removed last name for security purposes :)  ~Xanth*

astraladdict

Healing sent. BTW, her mom didn't get the illness from black magic. There is something called " the law of three" In magic, if you created a curse/spell on someone, and it doesn't work than it bounces back to the person who casted it. Your girlfriends mom, unless she was the one who casted it, won't be in the line of fire. But since the kill was successful, than there is no worry. I've healed many illnesses cause from black magic. The hardest one that really  made me on edge, was a spell created by their ancestry, a family curse. Horrible spell.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

Xanth

Done.  :)

Just remember that, in the wonderful world of magic, the only power someone has over another person is the power that person gives to their attacker.

i smoke and drink coffee

I will pray immediately, and Hi Res, give us an update.

Selea

Quote from: astraladdict on August 03, 2011, 11:12:03
Healing sent. BTW, her mom didn't get the illness from black magic.

I still don't understand why people use the term "black magic" for something completely different from the way it should be used. There's not a "white" or "black" magic, as there is not "black" or "white" weapon. Magic is just magic, i.e. "the Art and Science of Causing change in conformity with the Will". Nothing more, nothing less.

"Black" in the case of magic, when the term is used properly, it is just an adjective added to indicate an approached fault on the usage of the method of the above mentioned procedure, i.e. the "in conformity with the Will" (uppercase W) one, nothing else.

If in the case of the girl killing the man that was her Will, nothing is "black" about it. Naturally this is difficult, because killing goes against another individual's Will, but in some cases (that are too long to explain here) it can be what's needed.

Quote from: astraladdict on August 03, 2011, 11:12:03
There is something called " the law of three"

A Wicca terminology that is just an idiocy. It doesn't exist a thing like that, nor in nature and (necessarily) neither in magic.

Two little quotes:
"Karma is the Law of Cause and Effect. There is no proportion in its operations. Once an accident occurs it is impossible to say what may happen; and the Universe is a stupendous accident."

"There is a sort of sense in which every impression that is made upon our minds is the resultant of all the forces of the past; no incident is so trifling that it has not in some way shaped one's disposition. But there is none of this crude retribution about it. One may kill a hundred thousand lice in one brief hour at the foot of the Baltoro Glacier, as Frater P. once did. It would be stupid to suppose, as the Theosophist inclines to suppose, that this action involves one in the doom of being killed by a louse a hundred thousand times."

Quote from: astraladdict on August 03, 2011, 11:12:03
In magic, if you created a curse/spell on someone, and it doesn't work than it bounces back to the person who casted it.

It depends. If a "spell" fails then it "bounces", surely, but it is not said that it will bounce back. It is just that a "void" is caused and that "void" must be "filled" in a way or another. Naturally the most probable "filler" will be the creator, but it is not said (refer to the first quote). And anyway a "spell" always "bounces", no matter if succesful or not (I willl explain this better after).

Quote from: astraladdict on August 03, 2011, 11:12:03
Your girlfriends mom, unless she was the one who casted it, won't be in the line of fire.

On the contrary, it will be, having a contact (and a strong one at that). Usually the "weakest" link of the chain is the "filler". The "spell" bounces back to the creator usually because the weakest link it is almost always him/her (because s/he unbalanced him/herself by the act, especially if the procedure is incorrect), but it can also not be, at all.

Quote from: astraladdict on August 03, 2011, 11:12:03
But since the kill was successful, than there is no worry.

Also this is inexact. The "void" caused can be "larger" than the "filler", in this case a part of the "void" is still there. In the contrary case (i.e. the "filler" is greater than the "void") a sort of chain reaction can insue, where smaller and smaller "voids" must be "filled", and so on (and the procedure can being anew). It can go on for years, in fact.

Selea

Quote from: Ryan_ on August 03, 2011, 12:06:21
Just remember that, in the wonderful world of magic, the only power someone has over another person is the power that person gives to their attacker.

True, but usually for a motive that's different than what people presume. It has to do more with what is called the "Tao". An example:

"That tiger across the paddy-field looks hungry.  There are several ways of dealing with the situation.  One can run away, or climb a tree, or shoot him, or (in your case) cow him by the Power of the Human Eye; but the way of the Tao is to take no particular notice.  The theory appears to be that, although your effort to save yourself is successful, it is bound to create a disturbance of equilibrium elsewhere, with results equally disastrous.  Even more so; it might be that to be eaten by a tiger is just what you needed in your career through the incarnations; at that moment there might well be a vacancy somewhere exactly where it will do most good to your Great Work.  When you press on one spot, you make a corresponding bulge in another, as we often see a beautiful lady, unhappy about her waist-line, adopt drastic measures, and transform herself into the semblance of a Pouter Puffin!"

This, when a person doesn't care etc. about a "spell" it's what it happens usually, because you (either unwillingly) "accept" the "spell". However it can also happen the contrary, i.e. you don't care but in the opposite way (i.e. opposing your force to it not caring), in this case then it is a struggle of "wills".

And anyway there are many many factors as in every law. Saying that "magic works only if you let it" it's a bit reductive. It can be true (and usually is true) but it depends on many factors, one of which is in fact the methodology of the user.

Lionheart

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 I was wondering when someone was going to finally straighten up the ill-conceived notion about "Black and White Magick". Great explanation Selea, in the scrolls that I give with my Elemental Dragon Sculptures I state there is no Black or White Magick. All Magick is neutral, as in colorless. It's the intent of the user which changes it's path. A so-called "White" Wizard will sometimes use Demons to achieve a positive outcome, where as a "Black" or Dark Wizard use Angels to achieve their darker outcomes. It all comes down to that mighty word "Intent" again. Both the White Wizard and Dark Wizard would be fluent in both forms of Dark and Light Magick. You speak of Aleister Crowley, this is a man who is living proof of this fact, he was always known for working with Angels and Demons to achieve his goals and information. A lot of people also have ill-conceived notions of Chaos. They see Chaos as something evil, not realizing that Chaos is change. Without Chaos life would be mundane and stagnant, we would never learn anything. Sometimes we need a visit from Chaos to change the ways we do things. Chaos can be known as the ultimate balance between Man and Nature. From Chaos comes Order!