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Title: Prayer Request ... for Love, Truth, Understanding
Post by: Adrian on October 03, 2002, 14:37:13
Greetings Greg!

I am sorry to hear of your difficulties. Ideally marriages should be give and take, and accept and respect of each others views and beliefs.

Strongly religious people often have problems accepting truths that does not fit in with their beliefs for many reasons, and we have to respect that.

Every person in the world, in this incarnation or a subsequent one will have to find the true path sooner or later.

I would suggest that you might like to consider buying a White Eagle book or two. White Eagle is an very highly evolved Spirit messenger of Spiritual realities. White Eagle very wisely recognises that it is just not realistic to ask people to discard their religion, and embrace spiritual realities instead, and so he teaches Spiritual matters in the context of christianity to the extent possible, so that people can integrate Spiritual realities into their existing belief system to start with. White Eagle books are very inexpensive and available online.

http://www.whiteaglelodge.org/books/index.html

I truly hope that you can reconcile this with your wife to your mutual satisfactions.

With kind regards,

Adrian.





Title: Prayer Request ... for Love, Truth, Understanding
Post by: yoki_h on October 06, 2002, 03:37:07
Prays may help but you and your wife are facing in my opinion a major lesson. Relationships offer  the good the bad the beautiful and the ugly , duality  at its best.
My situation has some similarity  to yours  , maybe my approach  to the problem will  allow  you some  insight  to yours.
Thirty years ago tomorrow two  young emotional cripples were married  neither knowing a thing about them self's or each other. With  hindsight I can see that this was  just as  it should have been ,karma was  worked out and major lessons learnt, but it was and still is hard work. My husband came from a middle to low income family with no understanding  or tolerance for  metaphysics ,when he saw me reading a book on witchcraft he was horrified and alarmed .The main ingredient here was fear and I would venture to say that fear is also  the driving force behind your wife's  reactions . Despite my husbands disapproval  I went on through the years reading ,mediating ,meeting people of like minds   ,learning and growing without this and my inner reality I would have bent and broken years ago. I have never been in your face  just quietly gone my own way done my own thing  and now we have a quite truce.

yoki
Title: Prayer Request ... for Love, Truth, Understanding
Post by: yoki_h on October 06, 2002, 18:30:18
Amcturbo will find his own road at this junction in his life ,freedom of choice is our birthright.
The rest of this posting is delicate to the premise that individual sacrifice is justifiable for the greater good of the whole. How can any  whole be happy and healthy if its individual units are not . Even if we allow for the fact that spiritual growth is of no importance, emotional and physiological balance are a advantage within any family group .In fact emotional psychological and spiritual growth are so intertwined one is a  prerequisite for the other.

yoki
Title: Prayer Request ... for Love, Truth, Understanding
Post by: amcturbo on October 09, 2002, 06:28:15
Thank you all for your responses, suggestions, thoughts and prayers concerning my wife and I!  You all have shared much, which I have considered and pondered, and helped to put all this into various perspectives.

I do realize how we both add to and subtract from our relationship, and that I am equally at fault and equally responsible for what has, is and will happen (Law of cause and effect) ... as Yoki so eloquently stated it "two young emotional cripples were married neither knowing a thing about them self's or each other. With hindsight I can see that this was just as it should have been, karma was worked out and major lessons learnt, but it was and still is hard work" ... I couldn't have stated it any better ... as thus is the case for the majority of us *being human*.

I will continue to love & support my wife, myself and our child.  I will continue to seek ... and to find ... and above all else, to love God.

Again, thank you all for sharing and caring!

Cheers!
Greg Taylor :)

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)
Title: Prayer Request ... for Love, Truth, Understanding
Post by: Arie on October 15, 2002, 18:30:47
Greg...I'm very sorry that your in such a predicament.  Like others have said already...I guess this is a good time for growth between you and your wife.  Personally I have strong opinions on this topic as well if you don't mind.  You can always take it or leave it...it's up to you.  :-)  

I used to be like your wife.  I used to believe that everyone should have the same beliefs as me because I'm right and everyone else is wrong.  Now...though I have realized something very mindblowing.  First off did you know that scientists have proven that everything is energy.  Even a rock at the most basic fundamental level is pure energy.  I ask you where did this energy come from.  It came from the First Source/God/Goddess/Great Spirit/  whatever you want to call it. Basically it IS God.  A rock might not have conscious awareness but it is God.  Everything is God.  We are all One.  And when your wife realizes that we are all One....she might become aware that it doesn't matter what anyone else believes because we are all One.  Do you understand what I'm saying Greg?  Internalize this truth.  See if it rings true for you...and if it does discuss it with your wife....and find out if she "feels" its true as well.

God Bless

Ps- I prayed for you as well Greg.

Title: Prayer Request ... for Love, Truth, Understanding
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2002, 01:47:54
"If a plant cannot live by its nature, it dies; and so a man."

-H.D. Thoreau







"Everything you see or hear or experience in any way at all is specific to you. You create a universe by perceiving it, so everything in the universe you perceive is specific to you."
Title: Prayer Request ... for Love, Truth, Understanding
Post by: amcturbo on October 03, 2002, 09:27:52
Hi Everyone,
If you would, could you please pray for my wife and I ... last night was difficult for us.

Long story short, last night,Deanne confronted me about how we're growing apart in our BELIEFS and how paramount that is to the strength our relationship.

Deanne thinks that many of the things I now believe in (auras, Chakras, Energy body, OBEs), that the things I am questioning and wondering about (TRADITIONAL Christianity, Reincarnation, Ghosts, Spirits, healing) and the various many things I am interested in (various Psychic GIFTS) are WACKO and possibly harmful.

Deanne is afraid that I am becoming an Non-Christian (I'm not) ... which is the WORST thing that could happen to our relationship (she emphasized when we were dating ... that she wanted a strong Christian man that held the same beliefs as her ... at that time, I did ... now, I do not).

She wants us to meet with our pastor to "discuss" these matters, which I am fine with ... althought I have a feeling that what I discuss could cause our pastor some mental and spiritual anxiety (he's currently struggling already) and could possibly cause problems for our small church.

My wife has stated that "this" could end of our marriage [if I don't realize my errors & *change* back] (that's the hidden message I PERCEIVE).  I understand her concerns, since I used to "think" like that when younger (I too wouldn't date a non-Christian).  Deanne feels this is hopeless, if I am not *really* open for discussion (meaning I won't change my mind) ... it's interesting that she isn't *open* to considering my side (I know why though ... it doesn't fit into her belief system).

This is all frustrating and saddening to me.  In the past 10 months, our relationship has been improving daily, from near-separation (then) to much love (now).  We've grown much closer to each other, much more understanding, loving and accepting.  Now, we're 1-month away from the birth of our child and things seem *hopeless* (to Dee, not to me).

I think that this *could* eventually cause major positive growth in our marriage, growth for us personally, and I am hopeful that it will.  I fully realize that my wife might not be willing to accept what I believe, nor ever be interested in at least reviewing the NEW information that has brought me to this point in my life's journey and understanding of God.  I pray that God's pure Love Truth and Understanding would pour in us, thru us and from with in us ... for each other, for ourselves and for Him.  That our marriage would be healed and strengthened and the we both would GROW for our BEST and HIGHEST GOOD.  I love my wife and our unborn child and want us to suceed abundantly.

So, my friends, I simply ask that you send Positive Healing Prayers our way, and I humbly and sincerely thank you all for doing so.

Peace to you all.

Cheers!
Greg Taylor :)

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)