Is astral projection witchcraft?

[Old Dood]

Then what we're really left with is whether the Christian faith is 'the faith' or not, which ingnites an entirely different debate.

-AM

Exactly!  I was 'Born Again' over 40 years ago. (Romans 10:9:10) I was 'taught' I cannot be UN-Born Again.
So anything after that fact according to the BIBLE is that I cannot be denied 'Heaven'.

So where do people come up with this SATAN crap?  That A/P is a tool of the Devil?  From RELIGION...not GOD!
Their 'Religion' teaches them what the Bible is saying.  It is a lesson in FEAR...not any LOVE.

God is not Religous....Man is.
Watch this....very enlightening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
**WARNING** there is a few 'naughty' (actually it is only slang...nothing more) words that religious people will find offensive.

[iNNERvOYAGER]

Hi,
I'm trying to find the part of the Bible where Christ talks about "learning to die while living" sorry that I don't have the reference here, still looking.

This is a related passage:'" Jesus promised that they would see the kingdom of God. Jesus promised that they would taste the joy, peace and power of the kingdom of God while living in this world. In John 5:24, Jesus says, "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life."
Ref: http://chicagoubf.org/messages/message/307

I believe that it is the common interpretation among esoteric study that when the Bible mentions such things as, "learn to die while living", or "taste the joy, peace and power of the kingdom of God while living in this world", "he has crossed over from death to life."
That we are talking about actually experiencing a taste of how the survival of consciousness in the here after is possible. Spiritual training that leads to these revelations, can fall under the many disciplines, (does the word "disciple" ring a bell?) defined by words such as, prayer, meditation, astral projection, concentration within, visions, etc.

The Bible also mentions Jesus saying that, the kingdom of heaven is within, (revealed through meditation), and that the church is within.

I think that it's just a current problem with semantics when people use the term "project", and "out of body", because, actually, access to these states of consciousness occurs within.
You're going deeper and deeper within, not going out so to speak.

Then in conclusion:
We all know that the church committed countless crimes and atrocities against women accused of "witchcraft"

If you agree with the behavior of the Church during these events and think that their actions were justified, then I reccommend that you stop reading the Bible, and discontinue any attempts to "project" because you are surely damned and there is no hope for you. 

[Awakened_Mind]

Learning to die why living is in a lot of religions. I've heard it expressed in ways like "Do not live in fear of death and then you will truly know life" etc. So there seems to be a common theme coming from all religions but because they are designed to perpetuate that particular religion, the messages at the end are rather ambiguous.

I guess the idea is some sought of surrender of control or realization of control to the natural world. Fear is really the product of misunderstanding. Love is complete understanding.

-AM

[Cincy_Joe]

Everyone is missing ONE important point-

Whenever ANYONE goes to sleep and DREAM, they enter a low-level AP. SO I guess we all do is whether we like it or not. GOD has meant for us to AP (Even if it is low-level for dream states).

Cheers!

~400 Concious AP's and counting since 2000! Oh the WONDERS I have seen (and felt)

[lily moonsong]

Amen Cincy!