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Title: monism
Post by: genep on February 01, 2006, 12:58:36
Heavenism is just another word for monism. And Monism is just another word for the non-duality of the "Hindu" Advaita. And Advaita  is all about the Samadhi that is Heaven it-SELF.  

Monism is a language in which subject, verb and object appear different with an Awareness that  Heaven makes them all the same: Heaven's fiction, thoughts, words.

A seeker will ask questions about what this language is saying.
An idiot will tell you that it says nothing.
And an intellectual will obviously get upset because subject, verb and object simply cannot be the same.  
And this Heaven it-SELF is simply the Laughter that  makes the idiot perfectly right.
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In Heavenism  this Heaven is all there is. There is no other, there is no doer, only Heaven it-SELF.
Heaven's fiction, words/thoughts,  can HIDE Heaven but this Heaven is so Untouchable, Complete and Content that literally nothing in the universe, no words, can touch it or tarnish it. (Any more than physics' particles can touch or tarnish their  quantum-gaps.)

When thoughts cannot HIDE this Heaven it-SELF then all the universe's miseries and suffering, pain and anguish is simply the perfect balance of all its pleasures. This perfection of  balance personifies the unfathomable Harmony, Freedom and utter Peace  that is Heaven it-SELF.

--  and this is the Supreme Truth because Heaven is all there is, and so there is no other, there is no doer that can agree or disagree with Heaven it-SELF.
Title: monism
Post by: Kajua on February 03, 2006, 15:35:44
Don't give us a heckuva lot to debate now do you? :P

Quote- and this is the Supreme Truth because Heaven is all there is, and so there is no other, there is no doer that can agree or disagree with Heaven it-SELF.
Title: monism
Post by: Ensoñador on February 12, 2006, 15:19:39
"Heaven is all there is". I think thesse is a similiar way of thinking to "A course in miracle" teachings....¿heard of it?.  

I agree, the only "substancial", real or true plane of existence is Heaven, everything else is fantasy and tought twisted forms.  But heaven is not as Religion images show us, crowded of people enjoying still a body and infinite plasures. There are such places, but they belong still to the illusion of mind activity. Heaven is beyond tought or mind fabrications, thats why we cant really speak of it.  Mind has a big role in the creation of this universe...I guess with the insertation of  the Observer in our scientific formulas as a determinant element we will be getting closer to that aknowledgment: That we live in a mental world.
Title: monism
Post by: genep on February 14, 2006, 15:56:11
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genep:
I can only thank you. My only thoughts: the reader has to understand quantum-physics before he can understand the 5000 year old non-duality of Advaita. Otherwise it is a chicken and egg scenario.
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Humm, well, that all sound very interesting indeed! Now, I have some grasp of quantum mechanics, but I have to admit to not knowing very much about the non-duality of advaita.. What do you mean by this? I am always fascinated to hear of the links between the quantum and the spiritual.

peace
Rob
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Hello rob:
Advaita comes down to us from the 5000 year old Supreme Science, the study of thoughts. Sages around the Indus River used meditation to study their thoughts which was exactly like the study of physics: As long as they focused their study onto the thoughts the Supreme Science was a wild goose chase.. just like physics is a wild goose chase as long as physicists keep chasing their particles.
The moment these sages of old focused on the UV-gap, the universe-vanishing gap, between thoughts everything fell together in a perfection that left no questions, nor doubts. This perfection that left no questions is Samadhi. Thus the monism of Advaita. (The universe vanishes in this UV-gap between thoughts because it is just a thought that has to vanish in the gap between thoughts.)

The UV-gap is simply physic's quantum gap. The moment physicists focus their attention on the quantum-gap -- instead of the particles, thoughts -- will be the instant they will realize that chasing particles is the same wild-goose-chase thoughts need to chase each other around .. to keep expanding the universe just as fast as the thoughts that feed it to create it: reality.


peace
genep