Luciferians like Loyola

[MrBurgo]

hahaha! signing a contract for religion? that IS retarded, but of course when you are as enlightened as me it's not too stupid

Please explain!!

[NeoSaturn]

you see religion is simply a form of control. god instated it to make people civilized.

Think of it this way: how many people have a religion? too many to count, now imagine all the good behavior religion brings in, now imagine all those people without etiquette. scary eh?

i think got put in religion to keep things from going over the top, and he did a good job, so therefore i believe most religions not to be wrong (i only like monotheism, no offense)

[MrBurgo]

Each to their own

God never brought in religion Man did

Jesus destroyed the temple then 3 days later restored it...He never restored it in Buildings or Groups but rather in man himself...My Body is my temple(Church).

I to am enlightened & don't need religion(Man Made) I do need the religion of Jesus Christ which is be kind to your fellow man etc love as I have loved you etc...not sectarianism...

God never wants to control man hence free will...He does however want us to come to Them Freely (Father Son Holy Ghost & Mother)  There can be no son without a mother!!!

Love & Light

Christian

[Gandalf]

I still don't see how your experiences justify your abject *hatred* for the entire Catholic Church.. just because the local Catholic Church where you are is arseing around... that hardly means the entire Catholic Church should be tarred by the same brush.

by the same token, some evangelical protestant sects are obscene in my opinion but that doesnt mean they all are.
Likewise, the Anglican Church (Church of England) has some extreme sections within in who preach against women and gay clergy but there are many other branches, the mainstream in fact who is far more enlightened.

In Scotland where i live, where the dominant state church is the Church of Scotland (Presbeteryian Protestant) most of the church is ok but you get some crazy fundamentalist branches, esp up in the highlands, who would probably still burn heretics if they could get away with it!

I feel sorry for your bad experience with your local branch of the Catholic Church but you need to get a grip on yourself!

Going round *hating* anything and ranting about it is hardly an example that jesus himself would endorse!

Doug

[Quantitativefool]

MrBurgo look into Gnosticism, you seem to be saying exactly what they say. Just incase your interested.

[MrBurgo]

I looked into it but not fully understood...Please Explain

[Robert Baird]

Another blast from my past.

I kid you not! Lucifer is the 'light-bringer' and just as Hitler was a 'torch-bearer for Jesus' we have the Luciferians inside the Catholic Church to this day as I have covered from the likes of Malachi Martin who was a Papal advisor to three Popes and taught Jewish studies (Kaballah?) at the Vatican College until recently. Indeed all the Alumbrados (means Illuminati) people are 'light-bearers' or en-'light'-need ones. That includes Rodrigo Borgia (Pope Alexander VI) who I have dealt with in many books. I have already mentioned this Idiot's Guide has no mention of the Alumbrados founding the Jesuits or any intrigue related thereto including even the mere mention of Hibernians like Thomas Carlyle, Goethe, Saint Bernard as one, and other things related thereto. This does not surprise me one iota. Read the description of Jesus by Ignatius Loyola and think long and hard about whether I am right about his being inspired by the sun-worship or Heliopolitanism of the Druids; which is the basis of the Masons according to Thomas Paine who was higher up in the 'octopus'.



"The Society of Jesus was founded by Ignatius of Loyola, who could be seen as the Catholic Reformation's equivalent to Martin Luther. {Whose name is suggestive of Lucifer too.} Loyola has been referred to as one of the most important--if not the most important--figures of the Catholic Reformation.

Loyola was born Inigo de Oñez y Loyola around 1491. He was born at his family's ancestral castle in Guipúzcoa. When he was old enough, he entered the military service, where he served until 1521 when he was seriously wounded in battle. During his recovery from his wounds, he read about the lives of the saints of the church, and he was motivated to devote his life to spiritual service. He hung up his sword and spent a year in prayer and meditation at a cave near the Manresa monastery. While there, Loyola fasted, knelt in prayer for seven hours a day, and flagellated himself to the point of endangering his health. {I grew up near a Manresa Lodge that had some weird goings-on and I often wonder when I see them in places like Sedona or other earth-based religious areas. I am sure he spoke with them or received instruction from them at this time.}



Loyola later described this time as an incredible 'mystical' experience during which he had blinding visions of heaven and hell and Christ and Satan. He saw Jesus as 'a big round form shining as gold.'...

...Loyola and the Jesuits welcomed only those whose spirituality reflected his {N.B.} and those who were willing to engage in unquestioned obedience to the pope.{Giving up their possessions like the Templars too.} Any applicant who had even a hint of bad character or lack of orthodoxy was rejected. {Really? What orthodoxy might that be?}...

...The mission of the Jesuits was to educate the young, to lead people back from Protestantism to Catholicism, and to take the Catholic message to new areas of the world.

They were successful in all three endeavours." (3)

[Robert Baird]

Jesus and the Gnostic Cathars



http://www.eastrovedica.com/html/gnosticcathars.htm

Hammurabi (1792-1750 B.C.) was a great MAN who had the vision and wisdom to pronounce and codify that a girl is the legal property of her father until sold by him to her husband. In Athens women were brought up to be ignorant so that men could feel important and manlier as they abused and lorded it over 'the weaker sex' during the time of Socrates. He felt differently and it probably contributed to his being forced to drink hemlock. He said: "If the difference consists only in women bearing and men begetting children, this does not amount to a proof that a woman differs from a man in respect of the sort of education she should receive."

"All things truly wicked start from innocence."
― Ernest Hemingway

"More generally, as I shall repeat in Chapter 8, one of the truly bad effects of religion is that it teaches us that it is a virtue to be satisfied with not understanding."
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

"Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn."
― Benjamin Franklin

"It's an universal law-- intolerance is the first sign of an inadequate education. An ill-educated person behaves with arrogant impatience, whereas truly profound education breeds humility."
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"That which we manifest is before us; we are the creators of our own destiny. Be it through intention or ignorance, our successes and our failures have been brought on by none other than ourselves."
― Garth Stein

"He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career."
― George Bernard Shaw, Major Barbara

"There is nothing in the record of the past two years when both Houses of Congress have been controlled by the Republican Party which can lead any person to believe that those promises will be fulfilled in the future. They follow the Hitler line - no matter how big the lie; repeat it often enough and the masses will regard it as truth."
― John F. Kennedy

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."
― Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man

"Education is a system of imposed ignorance."
― Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media

"I examined the poets, and I look on them as people whose talent overawes both themselves and others, people who present themselves as wise men and are taken as such, when they are nothing of the sort.

From poets, I moved to artists. No one was more ignorant about the arts than I; no one was more convinced that artists possessed really beautiful secrets. However, I noticed that their condition was no better than that of the poets and that both of them have the same misconceptions. Because the most skillful among them excel in their specialty, they look upon themselves as the wisest of men. In my eyes, this presumption completely tarnished their knowledge. As a result, putting myself in the place of the oracle and asking myself what I would prefer to be — what I was or what they were, to know what they have learned or to know that I know nothing — I replied to myself and to the god: I wish to remain who I am.

We do not know — neither the sophists, nor the orators, nor the artists, nor I— what the True, the Good, and the Beautiful are. But there is this difference between us: although these people know nothing, they all believe they know something; whereas, I, if I know nothing, at least have no doubts about it. As a result, all this superiority in wisdom which the oracle has attributed to me reduces itself to the single point that I am strongly convinced that I am ignorant of what I do not know."
― Socrates

Not long ago it was Blasphemy and worse to study Kabbalah - but the forces for truth and learning have gotten the upper hand for the moment when we see so many studying and benefitting from the not so ancient Tree of Life which is derived from far more ancient verbal traditions or Qabala. Is religion a psychiatric symptom, is society wavering and waffling as it allows and uses religion rather than teach the fundamental spiritual reality? The astronomical knowledge origins are more ancient than almost all other sources of civilization in the evolution of man. It leads many who are deceived to think religions have been correct about all manner of miracles or prophecies. You need to read this if you need to know, qabala or your religion. It addresses Aeons or eons and yugas or what came from observing the dog star Sirius and a lot more.

http://www.astronargon.us/A%20Greek%...0Sephiroth.pdf