Do you think this forum is carefully watched by intelligence agencies?

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LoLmart

Hey, guys. Hello, NSA :D . It's public knowledge that Intelligence Agencies spy on citizens and collect data. Moreover, there are declassified documents that prove that CIA was sponsoring Remote Viewing research and we have many testimonies to support these documents and many others who testify to government research into astral projection. And it is also common sense that the Elite would want to have every advantage possible against enemies - foreign and international. So, I am pretty sure they keep an eye on one of the biggest astral projection forums online - astral pulse. Do you agree? I have a theory that there is a good possibility that Frank might have been kidnapped for his abilities and used in covert ops. Thankfully, I am not that good at AP but if I were I will keep it to myself and mostly close friends. I don't think it is too safe to state how incredibly gifted you are in something so lucrative to the power Elite as astral projection. It's just common sense... You shouldn't speak of how valuable your possessions or your talents are publicly especially when these talents can be used for extremely profitable and important spying operations by people with power and money. What are your thoughts?

Xanth

Is it possible?  Sure.
Is it likely?  Probably not. 

We're not important enough.  If Lionheart hasn't disappeared yet, then I think we're safe.  LoL

As for Frank, I'm about 95% sure he's not physical anymore.

desert-rat

I think some gov. agents are watching  web forums such as this one .  I would think the gov. has all the info on a.p./ r.v. allreaddy tho.

Szaxx

The RTZ is probably 'in their interests'
When you're seasoned, this isn't available anymore. Try as you may, a second or two is all you percieve and then you're moved onto new horizons where you're more useful.
The physical is tiny and almost insignificant in the wider reality when looked upon as a whole.
I suppose an etheric only projector may be useful. If you don't know any then ask yourself why?  :-o
You never know who is a secret agent do you now?  :evil:
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Stillwater

The web in general is watched. How watched do I think this site is? Probably only slightly above normal.

The reason is that any group with a metaphysical or religious orientation (as this group would be labeled by a person with the need to have as few labels as possible in their system) is deemed to be a center of extremism. But then there are A LOT of those groups around. This site is watched mainly by computer algorithms, and very rarely by human inspection, I would surmise.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Gummage

come on people get real I am sure the intelligence agencies have better things to do than hang around here.

LoLmart

Quote from: Gummage on April 24, 2014, 16:30:44
come on people get real I am sure the intelligence agencies have better things to do than hang around here.

yeah. They hang around in your cellphone. I'm sure it's a bit more fun :P

Astralzombie

Quote from: Gummage on April 24, 2014, 16:30:44
come on people get real I am sure the intelligence agencies have better things to do than hang around here.

You're correct when you say that they do have better and more important things to do than monitor  this site. However, stillwater laid out the basic truth. The internet is heavily watched by not just our country but many others. They recognize the power of the internet and the speed at which ideas and information can travel through it. Read up on the Arab Spring to get a better understanding of this. That shouldn't sound paranoid or silly to anyone.

They also use it to monitor public opinion (as well as a way to influence it IMO)...a means to see which way the wind is blowing if you will. Just last year, England passed a bill that made it difficult for Britons to access certain sites that fit into certain categories and this site happened to be one of the one's they tried to block. It's not hard to get around it because it is only a default setting that blocks the access but many, many people either don't know this or don't know how to disable it. Thus it was successful within a marginal degree.

I don't believe that their kidnapping people in order to make an army of supernatural spies but it's not unimaginable.

The USA is changing dramatically and with thange change many of our basic rights are being eroded in the process. It may not be obvious for some people depending on where they live but the signs are out there and many are in bold black letters. I live just under three hours from the border with Mexico. I've made the trip hundreds of times but only a handful of times in the past five years. Interstate 77 (leads to Brownsville, Tx across the border from Matamoros Mexico.

The trip seems like any other drive until you pass the Sarita checkpoint, From there on out, it's as if you have entered the twilight zone. Cameras are located at every mile marker that take snapshots of the LP's of every car coming and going. It is enforced by most federal agencies including the Border Patrol, Dept. of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the FBI, ATF, Parks and Forests Management, NSA (naturally), and many other alphabet soups. Not to mention a heavy presence of the national Guard as well as the Coast Guard on the ocean. All of which by the way, pack some extreme heat and patrol using clones, planes and helicopters.

That's just the feds though, we can't forget the Texas popo. You have the Texas Rangers which are a branch of the Texas Dept. of Public Safety. The DPS also patrols the Rio Grande with their new speed boats which pack a .50 cal on both the bow and stern. Of course there is also the Game wardens and every county and municipal police departments as well. Together they combine to create one hell of a cluster @#$% and do an amazingly good job at intimidating any and everyone.

Sorry for the rant but unless you see this mess with your own eyes, you might not ever be inclined to believe it. :?

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

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The NSA watches almost anything they can. Most government agencies on the internet are more carefully watching forums and the such with illegal material on it though. Things like child porn and black market things are heavily regulated and closely watched by agencies. The thing is, the internet is so big, the government really doesn't have the time to keep an eye on forums such as this one, that don't pose and potentially harmful threats. So pretty much, the only thing a government agency would be doing looking at this forum is looking for illegal material, other than that, there are bigger things for agencies to look out for. Of course, the NSA still keeps tabs on forums such as these. This forum just isn't as important to them as some others.

Lionheart

Quote from: Xanth on April 24, 2014, 13:49:27
We're not important enough.  If Lionheart hasn't disappeared yet, then I think we're safe.  LoL
LOL, who knows, maybe they will hire me!  :wink:

My views are certainly we are watched. They didn't build all those unique Supercomputers and large beautiful buildings for nothing.

That's okay though, we have nothing to hide. I don't go to the NP to spy on anyone or their business. So, I can still sleep soundly at night!  :-)

Gummage

Quote from: Lionheart on April 24, 2014, 21:52:35
LOL, who knows, maybe they will hire me!  :wink:

My views are certainly we are watched. They didn't build all those unique Supercomputers and large beautiful buildings for nothing.

That's okay though, we have nothing to hide. I don't go to the NP to spy on anyone or their business. So, I can still sleep soundly at night!  :-)

We are watched? I not trying to come across as rude or too blunt or whatever but come on just get real! do you really think they care? I hope the guy was joking too about cellphones- unless your a suspected terrorist or suspect I seriously doubt they would care. With them watching this site...as the other poster has stated they are likely focused on illegal websites trying to nail child pornographers I just can't see them having anything to do with any paranormal or metaphysical sites or thousands and thousands of others. Lets try not veer down the road of "the evil government are watching us". That seems to be a huge craze these days and its getting kind of silly.

Lionheart

Quote from: Gummage on April 25, 2014, 05:41:15
We are watched? I not trying to come across as rude or too blunt or whatever but come on just get real! do you really think they care? I hope the guy was joking too about cellphones- unless your a suspected terrorist or suspect I seriously doubt they would care. With them watching this site...as the other poster has stated they are likely focused on illegal websites trying to nail child pornographers I just can't see them having anything to do with any paranormal or metaphysical sites or thousands and thousands of others. Lets try not veer down the road of "the evil government are watching us". That seems to be a huge craze these days and its getting kind of silly.
The worst threat to control is "awareness". Just think about that for a minute. That's my final word on this!  :-)


Stillwater

QuoteWe are watched? I not trying to come across as rude or too blunt or whatever but come on just get real! do you really think they care?

It is important to consider that we are dealing not with the wills and interests of individuals, but with a largely automated system. It will monitor whatever its parameters tell it to.

A lot of this has to do with the increasing power and storage capacity of computers today. It isn't so much that they have an interest in particular sites or individuals for the most part (although in a few cases they do, but not here in particular I would guess), it is that the monitoring and storage is costing them less and less, so there is the tendency to monitor and store everything they possibly can, on the offchance that some of it may be useful later. Combine dramatically more powerful computing with some of the largest, near bottomless policing and defense budgets in the history of the world, and this surveillance program is a near certainty in dozens of countries- in fact in the major players, they rightly reason that not doing it puts them at a tactical disadvantage to those that are doing it, at a certain point in the game. Maybe not now, when they are spending billions to learn things like Mrs. Johnson always buys eggs on Tuesday, but when costs go down a few more orders of magnitude again, to where a group can spend hundreds of thousands to build detailed dossiers on every one of their clients' lifetime purchasing histories, and combine these with their media interests, I think you will start seeing not only governmental but increasingly commercial interests performing data mining like this.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

PlasmaAstralProjection

I don't think they are likely watching this forum, but I bet they are watching what is going on with super cheap energy. Like the work of Andrea Rossi. I've heard of people in big places watching what's going on here, some in energy production, and other scientists. Some don't want to come out at all in favor of it for fear of being ridiculed or wrong, while others are just carefully reporting on what is going on.

Any scientist or energy expert will tell you that if cold fusion better known as LENR is real that we will be moving into a new area of wealth and abundance. I will be posting about this in a few months once Andrea Rossi's E-cat report comes out. It's going to shake the energy industries and others that will be effected but we the people as a whole will come out better for it in the coming decades.

Very few know about this yet it's been followed and reported by curious often smart people like myself and a few in the energy sector, scientists and probably government. If astral projection is real it won't pose and overnight overhaul of very much of anything. But if cold fusion/LENR is real it will shake the energy and political powers in the coming years.

Peace.

Xanth


Astralzombie

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

PlasmaAstralProjection

I'll have the last laugh as I actually know what I'm talking about. I've followed and studied LENR for years now. BTW it has nothing to do with making things cold.

60 Minutes Cold Fusion is Hot Again
http://vimeo.com/4263614


Astralzombie

Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on April 26, 2014, 02:39:18
I'll have the last laugh as I actually know what I'm talking about. I've followed and studied LENR for years now. BTW it has nothing to do with making things cold.

60 Minutes Cold Fusion is Hot Again
http://vimeo.com/4263614



No one was discounting the importance placed on cold fusion and the energy revolution that would surely follow. Nor does anyone think that cold fusion involves icebergs. Xanth just happened to make a funny joke in relation to it and the original topic. :-)
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

PlasmaAstralProjection

Quote from: Astralzombie on April 26, 2014, 02:59:37
No one was discounting the importance placed on cold fusion and the energy revolution that would surely follow. Nor does anyone think that cold fusion involves icebergs. Xanth just happened to make a funny joke in relation to it and the original topic. :-)
Great so if I try to make a joke, I'm sarcastic, if Xanth makes a joke he's funny. Don't take that seriously I was referring to the old thread too.  :-)

desert-rat

I think the N.S.A. is hanging out on bad caps , so when there stuff breaks , they know how to fix it . ( only a sarcastic joke , I think )
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/
p.s. to the N.S.A. I can provide you a bunch of electronic sites  in p.m. if asked .

ukrainflyer

well that depends can any of you stably project in the RTZ?


Xanth


Stillwater

Also, I am.

Wait, no I'm not... pretty sure....

probably...
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Xanth

Quote from: Stillwater on July 17, 2014, 21:26:14
Also, I am.

Wait, no I'm not... pretty sure....

probably...
I remember making a joke to that effect regarding myself and the CIA... and someone kind of took it and ran with it... right up until we had to remove him from the forum.  LoL