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Author Topic: An easy way to enter sleep paralysis at will and have OBEs  (Read 32862 times)
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« on: January 12, 2011, 11:29:07 »

One day I'll put all the fragments of informations I've gathered in one big post but until then, I'll just keep sharing it this way.

Anyways, folks here it is - a very easy way to enter the kind of sleep paralysis necessary for OBEs and I'm sure it has been said before so If you already know, see this as a reminder.

You may alredy know or have experienced that in order to be able to have OBEs it requires me than simply muscle relaxation, it requires a full body paralysis or dissociation from the physical body to be precise. SP can be understood as technically being the wake-experienced crossover from the physical to the astral that normally happens only when the mind is already asleep. So there is literally a disconnection from the physical body control centers, so technically it is not a paralysis of the body just the self experiencing the physical body as a foreign object as it transfers its new identity into the astral body for the time being.

The problem is that when you lie down, normally the body won't shut down and there is a sort of "micro-movement" that is (probably designed to) keeping your body awake and you connected to it. When you cut through that micro-movement and "freeze" the flesh internally, your body begins to enter sleep paralysis and this process can run very quickly (my fastest one to paralysis and exit rush was about 8~ min). I have discovered atleast 4 stages in the process, with each one increasing the 'depth'.  Stage 4 is so heavy it hits you like a train, it's like a space rocket dropping it's last fuel tank. As you process through these stages, your body may feel dead-dry or like plastic or spatially extended or contracted or experiencing a kind of three-dimensional sight through closed eyes, just don't let it take your focus.
Just keep focusing on stilling your body parts internally and notice the sensations as you go from stage to stage to keep you motivated. If it helps, associate your focus with turning your limbs to stone or like being buried in ice or whatever inanimate metaphor you prefer. However, the body wants to move and may trick you into tensing up muscles, so sometimes it is necessary to check and let-go when tension accumulates. If you feel compelled to move, ignore that urge as best as you can and keep focusing on stilling your flesh.


Many relaxation techniques are based upon associations and metaphors to enter sleep paralysis, however if they don't somehow make one cease the micro-movements there is no chance of getting out.

And that's about it, once you enter sleep paralysis you will be unlocked from your physical body and can roll out, float out, fall out, visualize an object above and have it pull you out, phase to a location of choice etc.
Just remember, these exit-techniques won't work unless you are already detached, in a relatively deep state of sleep paralysis.

And as always, I recommend not to practice when tired or a tendency to sleep exists at a given time.


Much success and best of luck



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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2011, 12:37:09 »

Do you have any recommendation on breathwork?

I mean, not moving is one thing. But normally you always move since you have to breathe. That is also what I do not understand as regards the induction of total paralysis, since it is not possible, your belly and lungs still move with breathing.

You see, I am  not experienced in inducing OBE from waking state (WILD techniques, etc.), but have not given up completely on learning it, that's why I ask.

Some experts recommend yogic breathing or sleep breathing or just deep belly breathing, some use even 'holotropic' breathing. So what is your take on this?
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2011, 14:16:34 »

Do you have any recommendation on breathwork?

I mean, not moving is one thing. But normally you always move since you have to breathe. That is also what I do not understand as regards the induction of total paralysis, since it is not possible, your belly and lungs still move with breathing.

You see, I am  not experienced in inducing OBE from waking state (WILD techniques, etc.), but have not given up completely on learning it, that's why I ask.

Some experts recommend yogic breathing or sleep breathing or just deep belly breathing, some use even 'holotropic' breathing. So what is your take on this?


My thread on breathing: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/shallow_breathing_will_keep_your_body_awake-t32780.0.html

I mainly use breathing as a "stabilizer" to center myself and I try to breathe as naturally as possible.
The belly moving is not a problem tho, as you go deeper into paralysis, the autonomous nervous system will pick up the breath and you will not feel yourself breathing anymore.


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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2011, 17:25:07 »

I've had a number of OBE's and have never experienced sleep paralysis. I use relaxation and focus of awareness to enter another state of consciousness, not fall asleep or go into paralysis. Sometimes I can even feel and move my physical body after projecting. We tend to associate OBE's with sleep, it may be easier for some, but there are no rules.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2011, 17:26:59 »

Cool this time it took me less than 15 mins to hit SP going stage #4 (vibrations -exit) again, the technique from the description works absolutely certifiably well, i don't know how i could describe the how-to more closely.

I will add a few more things:

One symptom as you progress in SP (body detachment) is that body-awareness and -senses merge with imagination/visualization. For example, while you're in a relatively deep stage of SP and you visualize a tennis playing field, your body will actually experience itself as the tennis ball bouncing across the field or imagined music will become lucidly heard etc. These are well known phenomena of the crossfading from the physical to the astral body.

I would also like to add that since this is a very delicate process, one can't afford to break focus.

For example, when you focus on stilling your legs (I recommend beginning with the legs) and you do that for 5 mins and think you're done, the process reverses naturally and you can start anew. So it is a continual process and your focus doesn't switch from limb to limb, it expands from limb to limb, as SP is known to come over you like a blanket.
Again, the key is to focus on stilling the legs, and keeping that focus, then SP should work it's way upwards the body almost automatically.


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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 18:42:04 »

I've had a number of OBE's and have never experienced sleep paralysis.

you have to understand, you're talking about "having" OBEs, im talking about inducing OBEs, which is a completly different story. In order to induce OBEs, SP - body dissociation process is the process to.

Most people have OBEs but are asleep mentally during the process and then find themselves awake out of their own body after the process and then later experience themselves reintegrating but they never expereinced the body dissociation process that got them out and so they don't know how to. I'm explaining that here.


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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 18:54:23 »

I have never noticed those micro movements. I'll pay attention during my next relaxation session to check if I experience them.

Reaching SP in such a little time is worth some experiments Wink
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 13:30:47 »

I have been practicing relaxation for years so I tried to pay attention to the micro movements I had. The only place is still the eyes, so difficult to ease this part !
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 14:20:24 »

One thing that works for me when it comes to sleep paralysis is to sleep sitting up. Sleep deprivation usually helps quite a lot as well.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 14:30:57 »

At this point in the game it's mostly semantics anyway, but...

What you're talking about is inducing a "Trance"... not "Sleep Paralysis".  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2011, 14:42:42 »

At this point in the game it's mostly semantics anyway, but...

What you're talking about is inducing a "Trance"... not "Sleep Paralysis".  Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2011, 16:02:16 »

I have been practicing relaxation for years so I tried to pay attention to the micro movements I had. The only place is still the eyes, so difficult to ease this part !

you needn't worry,

at some point SP becomes like a self-completing process. That's why I recommend starting with the legs. With me, the head always comes last and automatically, when all the other limbs are already deeply embedded in astral matter. The head seems to contain the points of highest attachment.


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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2011, 16:25:34 »

you needn't worry,

at some point SP becomes like a self-completing process. That's why I recommend starting with the legs. With me, the head always comes last and automatically, when all the other limbs are already deeply embedded in astral matter. The head seems to contain the points of highest attachment.


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Paul

I have to admit Tiny, it does sound like what you are describing is a trance process.  The difference with a trance and sp, IMO, is in a trance you can move, but with sp, you are literally nailed down...well, until you manage to break free.  But it really doesn't matter what you call it, if it works for you, more power to you.  Continue doing it. smiley



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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2011, 16:55:42 »

you have to understand, you're talking about "having" OBEs, im talking about inducing OBEs, which is a completly different story. In order to induce OBEs, SP - body dissociation process is the process to.

What, you think I don't have to induce my OBE's? Trust me, I'm not that lucky, I don't just "have" them. I'll reword it: "I've induced about 95% of my OBE's and have never experienced sleep paralysis." I agree that it sounds like going into trance.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2011, 10:55:40 »

I have been following your posts, Tiny, and they have been really helpful to clear out some mistakes. I am curious, when do you practice, or when are you most succesful in having/inducing OBEs - before sleeping, after sleeping, etc.? I know you say it may not matter with your techniques, but I am still curious about your own way of doing it.
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2011, 13:35:19 »

I have been following your posts, Tiny, and they have been really helpful to clear out some mistakes. I am curious, when do you practice, or when are you most succesful in having/inducing OBEs - before sleeping, after sleeping, etc.? I know you say it may not matter with your techniques, but I am still curious about your own way of doing it.

Thank you,

Oh it does matter to me, in no way have i mastered this but I do give my best.
I'm working like crazy to perfect the process of paralyzing the body. It is incredibly hard work to do it from the waking state, compared to just looking for a time when feeling sleepy, in order to fall asleep and try to wake up in the paralyzed state of the body or inside the dream.

One problem is that people confuse the process of paralysis (spiritual detachment from the body control-centers) with relaxation. Relaxation is just releasing muscle tension and that alone won't cause projections and there's not much to learn there, however paralysis is something that must be induced manually and be learned like an instrument.

Probably the most important thing is to live good, since you need to be able to lie still for an hour or more. It is best when your life situation feels "solved" at the time you're trying to project. That is the right time to project. When I feel unsolved and lie down to meditate or project or whatever, all i feel is the desire to get up and do something about it. And If i force myself to lie still, agony and tension just grow and the whole session becomes traumatic.

Going to sleep with the intention to project is good but the chances for recall are minimized. I agree with most people saying that its best to project in the morning after a good night's sleep.

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What, you think I don't have to induce my OBE's? Trust me, I'm not that lucky, I don't just "have" them. I'll reword it: "I've induced about 95% of my OBE's and have never experienced sleep paralysis." I agree that it sounds like going into trance.

Alrighty,

well then let me re-word something too. I've never felt trancy during any of my projections, ever. My bodymind was always wide awake and refreshed during them, with my body in a relatively deep state of paralysis, altho never so deep that i had lost control.
At some point I found out for myself that trance is simply negligible and unnecessary for projections and can even tend to make the mind fall asleep and ruin the entire attempt.


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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2011, 14:01:55 »

Tiny,

Can you describe what you mean by "feel trancy"?

I think this is possibly where the confusion point between you and some of us lies.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2011, 16:31:50 »

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I've never felt trancy during any of my projections, ever.

That's good, because you're not suppose to feel that DURING the projection, but before whilst in actual trance state.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2011, 23:04:55 »

I have to admit this has probably been the best technique I've tried yet.  It really gave me something to focus on and within a matter of minutes (or what seemed like minutes), my body felt really heavy and my left arm felt light and I started seeing flashes.  I think I became close but it was really impressive how fast it worked.
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2011, 15:59:51 »

So in a nutshell is the basis of the technique to imagine your physical body stilling up? the part about making it still up internally is a little confusing. Can you elaborate on that a bit more pls Tiny?
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2011, 17:13:34 »

Any meditative technique will get you these results, plan and simple.  I do a four count breathing tech, for what it's worth.
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2011, 06:13:47 »


Just keep focusing on stilling your body parts internally 


What do you mean by internally pls tell more on what you mean here ty.
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2011, 11:32:54 »

What do you mean by internally pls tell more on what you mean here ty.

He means you have to drain all the energy from your body. When awake your nerves are on "stand by." Energy is coursing through your muscles ready to accomodate mobility instantaneously. To induce paralysis you retract that energy from every muscle.
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2011, 14:40:47 »

 Seems pretty good, I'll try it out.

He means you have to drain all the energy from your body. When awake your nerves are on "stand by." Energy is coursing through your muscles ready to accomodate mobility instantaneously. To induce paralysis you retract that energy from every muscle.

 That's a great explanation, makes a lot of sense to me.  smiley
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2011, 15:43:42 »

and you kind of imagine it leaving right?
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