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Adkha

So just to make sure I understand you correctly...

You wanna make a vidual model of the 10 dimensions?

But what you are describing here:

1D- center of Earth's core. Iron crystal dominates this realm. It is the sourse of Bliss and Harmoney. This center holds incredible power because it is Giea's heartbeat.

2D- The Telluric realm, home to the elemental spirit's, located in the Mantle of the Earth. Here are the Deep Caverns and the some of the basic mettaloids.

3D- The physicle relm, where Earth is bathed in 3D light from the Sun. understanding principles of inertia, activating the dense aspects of Will and Compassion.

4D- Astral Body, generated and regenerated through emotion. Earth receives 4D light from the other planets in our solar system, and representations emotion and circumstance


is not about these 10 dimensions...is it? I'm sure I missunderstood...But as I think you can desribe the first 4 dimensions:

1fst: a point in space...with no thickness, wideness or lenght.
2nd: a plane in space...with wideness en lenght
3rd: a space in space...with wideness lenght en thickness.
4rd: a dimension beyond the space dimensions...a dimension we perceive as moving forward-->TIME.

Well...plz argue me and tell me what I missunderstand :-)
Psycho Paradoxical

kakkarot

perhaps you mean "planes of reality", TriSection?

~kakkarot

Tri Section

i think we are both right Adkha.  i will to illistraight.  

1D-  a point in space with no width height or width.  Since Earth is a a sphear, we can see this indicates that there is a center to it, somehwhere.  You and i decide to meet and find this center ourselves, so we decide to travel to earth's core to start looking.  we are surrounded by Glowing Cyrstals and it is very hot, but we focus and realize that Earth's Center is "over there".   That point, although we undeniibly found it, does not have any width height or weight to it.  it mearly is, no matter how close we get to it with our cool astral magnifying glass.  

2D-  A Plane with width and length, and from what i remember from geomerty class, a 2D plane has no height.  The mantle, im talking about Earth here, is condensed rock that at one time was the Earth's crust.  Each layer of Earth adds to the layer previous to it-   creating the mantle.  thus you can see, that there is no Height, but there is a width and lenghth.  thus we can see that both the Earth's center (1D)  and the Earth's crust (3D) contribute to create the mantle (2D).

3D- the space and time we currently inhabit inside monkey bodies, which evolve (even if it's at a snails pace) through time.  the outer crust of Earth is greatly effected by the activities in the 4D, which Adkha said was Astral body and time.  By empowering one's Will, weather it be Giea's or my own, the potencial for things to grow more independently increases.  What would be growing are the trees, a new strand of eggplant, human civilizations, cockroach civilizations, or whatever.  this new life could have not come to be without the Sun.  Now correct me if im wrong, but is this not Giea reaching up and out towards new ideas?
length width and hieght.  

4D- the dimention outside of our own, which we perceive as time.  The planets in our solar system reflect the Sun's light, and we can see them at night. one may realize that there is life outside of the material, outside of the physicle.  and we may reach out of our bodies, via the astral body, empowered by emotion.  our emotions are greatly influenced by the positions the other planets in the solar system, because each planet emenates a certain frequency in all directions.  
The Earth Core (1D) is like a beacon to these frequencies, the elementle energies (2D) absorb the new information and take it wherever they need to go, lets say the Humans (3D) receive this information generating an emotional response strengthening the astral body (4D) which explores new part of the universe.  

Im pulling alot of this out of my head, feel free bring in your own interpretation.  
And Kakkarot, as far as i know, im talking about levels or planes.   I am trying to create a visual representation of each of these planes.  so any ideas would help BruWatts.

Ybom

Based on your last post, Tri Section, I like how you've related scientific dimentions to Earth. Because of your logic and providing me with a new way to objectively look at the whole concept, I'll try my best to help you.
How you plan on achieving 10 dimentions in that light I have no clue, but I've provided you with an 8 step increment based on what you're proposing.

1d: Earth center, similar to an infintesimal point in math
2d: Earth layers, similar to the structure and stability of a grid
3d: Earth's crust (workings of our physical world), adding depth to the grid
4d: Outer Space, similar to time (or better described as the focal point of where we start losing control of our surroundings)
5d: Multiverse, and I'm not sure what a good relationship would serve inbetween the last one and the next one
6d: Astral/Etheric/Spirit Realm, similar to the laws of nature that we couldn't fathom of changing and we use general terms to try and quantitize them.
7d: Unknown, this is similar to the things we have yet to figure out and natural laws that we figure out in the future that will change our current universal laws and so forth
8d: God, essentially the infinity rule that contains the known and unknown in an environment that they can coexist together in harmony making everything possible.




I think i've put a good representation together of the levels, but there are probably more that I'm missing, and I'm also having trouble on some of the relationships. I do hope that this helped; let me know.
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wantsumrice

Wait a minute, i thought the 10d are essentially 10 different planes of existance.  Basically 10 other "worlds"?  

~ivan

Tri Section

thank you for the post ybom, i am most interested in your discription of 2D-  a grid.  i have been thinking a solid plane, but "grid" makes much more sence.  on a grid, just like in chess, the peices can move anywhere on the board, but there can not be two peices on the same square.  this means, that to discribe 2D, we begin to grasp concepts of layers.  2D + 2D +2D = 3D.

upon working on this project, i have come across an interesting correlation that may help clairify the relationship of these levels.  I am discribing the 10 dimensions using 3D props.  i will use the human body as my prop.

1D- the nervious system, just like the core of the Earth, receives and reflects information and directs it to thine Brain Center, to center of galexy, to center of an atom or something to that effect.   there is also an infinate center in a (1) nerve.  think of the similarities between our nervious sytems and Earth's Center Core receiving and reflecting information.  (we are in the photon band for 2000 years,  ON)  (then we are in the Galactic night for 26000 years OFF)  just like a nerve.  

2D- Since i'm dealing with the human body in this example, i think Blood would be the most logical representation of the 2D.  layers upon layers.  think of a pond or a lake having layers, and you've got the idea.  although 2D is discribed as having no height (like a grid, only with height and width)  blood, never really has it's "own" shape.  It's formless.  taking on the form of whatever it's contained in.   blood carries oxegen to the rest of the "body".  Elementles in the Telloric relms carry vital information received from the Earth core,  that the 3D needs.  like how to think logically.  chess.  no hieght.  formless.  

3D- the mussle tissue.  Composed of tightly wound fibers- still not a compleat solid.  nerves and blood help the tissue to grow.  if the tissue is healthy, and blood circulation is good, then the nerves (1D) can transmitt more feelings.  this "adds depth to the grid" (ybom).   now we can start learning how to play chess in timeless space.

4D- pulsations of light information sent from the brain, that is the food for our emotional bodies.  we perceive these emotions as "outside of us" because they are resonating at a higher frequency then our tissue, cells and blood-  BUT this information is still there. our emotions are just as real as enything else.  but like blood, they take the shape of the container it's in ( the human body is the container in this example).  since we could not have these emotions without a conduite to transmute them, we are able to feel anything we want if our nural pathways are cleared and grounded.  

i'd like to continue, but im getting confused and i'd like to have time to process this information before i continue- otherwise it may not be accurate.    

Wantsomerice-  yes there are 10 planes- each of these planes are nessesary in order for any of the planes to exsist.  As for your question about these planes being different worlds, i think it would be safe to think of them in that way.  because in oder to expand, we must travel to different parts of the universe.  different worlds need exploring.  different universes need exploring.  knowledge needs exploring, although all knowledge is a lie in any dimension, but it helps us understand the truth.  the whole Shie-Bang        

Any information, Questions, Answears, or help would be much appreciated.  thanks for posts every one, your helping me out.

Tri Section

ybom, i would much appreciate your involvment.  as for any other of you Steller Rock Stars that want to join in.  

why have you only listed 8 dimensions ybom?   from what ive gathered, (this spacific portion from the Pleidian Agenda) 8th dimensional entities reconfigure information into new catigories, or new morphogenic feilds, which the 9D entities birth new biological  forms into the Darkness of the Galactic night (whatever that means).  this sort of reminds me of how the brain schema's will seperate information into it's dignified catigory to be processesd in the brain.  infants have less developed schema's because they have not yet needed to seperate information into spacific catigories.  they are seemingly content with knowledge of breathing, heartbeat and blood pressure, swallowing- that sort of thing.   it is not untill later that they WANT to learn how to walk around and stuff, they their schema's begin to split into what ever configuration they deem nessesary.  

 may i ask why you feel that the 8D is beyond comprehension? or at least undiscribible? perhaps i misunderstood your discription of this level.

Ybom

8d really isn't considered the static 8th dimention in my head. It's more of the "final dimention" which 8 was last on my list. 7d represented dimentions of space not realized by man yet, sort of the other side of what man has discovered via ANY means, to include philosophical discussion, irrational numbers, and so on. This means that this dimention is constantly fluctuating as man comes up with new thoughts. I think another dimention that would go just above that but is even harder to grasp are the things about the universe that me, or any man or intelligence would fail to grasp in the life of the universe (but this would fall more precisely in a subplane of this unknown space).

Back to my 8th dimention. The 8th dimention is the container that encompasses everything and holds the values for all existence, causing the entire system to work. I could try to give you a better definition, but I'm not sure exactly what you're having trouble grasping.

*(reread thread)*
I think a problem in deciding where exactly which dimentions go, and what boundaries to set for each dimention is for a specific reason. This reason is that it can sometimes be hard to see what is more important in a perfectly harmonious system that seems to have no end to it in any direction. The only hint I can give you to adjust to this disorientation is to go beyond feeling and knowing what to put there; seek out the vision and infinite wisdom that makes complete sense that didn't before. My 8d model was what I knew, but it wasn't what was completely wise to me. It feels incomplete, but I put it there anyways as to help unlock something in you.

Beyond that, you must realize that you have 3 models that you are dealing with simultaneously. First is the mathematical (grid-like) representation. Second is the sphere/planet (layered) representation. Third is the living (cellular) representation. I suggest you develop all of these out into detail and then when there seems to be nowhere else you can go, you encompass all 3 of the models together in a final dimention: "These models together are one and the same; they belong together in the dimention that relates them to each other, as everything in the universe is related on some level. Be it matter, empty space, random wave patterns, unknown things to us, and even unreachable things by anything at all." That's similar to how I would put it, and if that works for you, then go ahead and use it.
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Ybom

Well I read an article yesterday, still stuck on a few parts, and the owner resides here on the Astral Pulse (JoWo). I linked his article recently in another post, and I hate doing it again, but I have a strong feeling that it could drastically change your project for the better.

//www.quantum-metaphysics.com/essay.htm

The only problem I really see is the concept of 10 dimentions that you have may totally disappear after you get done. We'll see. Get back to us and let us know how the project is going!
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Tri Section

indeed, an absolutly nessesary atricle for me to read.  although im not sure how incorrect i am-  hehe     going by what this article has read thus far, i have created the portaits correctly-  although my verbal discription of these planes are out of alinement.  i will attach the first three i have done thus far.   as far as i can tell, iv transmitted information about 0D, 1D, and 2D    tell me what you think.

im still in the midst of carefully reading the article (notes and diagrams)  takes a while.  I will be better able to respond when im done reading it, which will be soon. I am still in the midst of finishing the 2D.    


I seem to be most accurate when i dont think.  but i cant get to that point unless i overwelm myself with information first  

Ybom

I think if you're going to omit 0d like that, and change 1d into 0d's name then fine. It owuld be more linear and a lot of people would follow that better. Your true depiction of 0d would be a blank sheet of paper or canvas, telling them that 0d represents the untouched canvas...nothingness, the universe we see doesn't exist, therefore it has no form other than emptiness.

If you're truly defining 0d as what you have as the first picture, I don't get why nothingness would look like that. Explain please!

However, assuming that you really are starting with 1d, I see nice structure in your work. It's really good, and inspired use of what I see as fractal work, which in my opinion conveys a better impression of the infinite depth and size of each dimention (aka good job). Your "2d" or final image, depicting 3d right?, only seems flat due to the flat canvas you're working with, dumb limited computers! The only way you could fix this is to learn 3d modeling and graphical engineering and create a short movie that gives the appearance of 3d. Assuming that you probably wouldn't go to this level for this project, I can feel what you were shooting for I think. Does the pyramid represent structure inherent in nature? Does the rainbow path represent the link to the rules (holons) of the dimention?

Now, beyond that, based on what I see you have, I'd like to see how you're going to do 4d. Yep, an impression has been made on me!
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Tri Section

i think you are correct, ybom, about the order of those first 3 pictures.  my original intention was 1D, 2D and 3D for what i have posted.  I switched the other around after reading the site you suggested, due to the fact i was interpreting the first 3 dimentions as follows:

0D    a point that can only be discribed as nothingness
1D  a line that is a culmination of these points- turning nothing into something
2D   the telluric relm imbedded in the earth's surface, being harnessed for the purposes of 3D.  

nontheless, although this may be somewhat factual-  for clarity sake, i will keep with the original identifications.  1D 2D 3D.  


now for 4D.   This is where it gets pretty hazey, only because im conditioned to think so- Space Time are one in the same (entity).  all perceptions that take place within SpaceTime, are only aspects of the whole, and not the whole itself (IE- as in, everything in 3D is interconnected, and it is only an illusion that seperation between objects occur).   thus unity is key to understanding the qualities of this level.  okay, that an easy love nugget to sallow-  but how easy is it to digest?

it is important to see that there can be NO ONE CENTER in 4D, found in 3D.  all perceived points are the center of 4D, because all things are connected.  "God is a circle in which all points are the center"      this indicates that the universe is infinate, and has the capibility to be explored on any level.   so my intuision tells me that in order to discribe this level visually, we have to focus on the ACTION of transending from the physicle relm to the timeless unknown of 4D.

if you notice in the 3D illistraition i posted earlyer, there is a pyramid with eatherial energy being absorbed into the top, and from the bottom there is elemental information sent from (Earth's) Core.   the pyramid represents matter.  if the 4D is the action of willing yourself into infinitude and being conscious of it, then in essence-  we are trying to get to the top of the pyramid- we are trying to get back to the source.  

perhaps if i use the top of the pyramid glowing a bright blue smoke (or flame)-  which is expanding towards the hevans.  the flame branchs out in all directions, but is dominatly connected  to the belt of Orian (the Pleiads) and towards Serius system.  the milkyway galexy at the center top of the page glowing with a similar smoke, but is adorned with color (mostly green and blue)  the blue smoke emitting from the pyramid creates varity of images, such as faces of perviously transended masters. (not sure about that)    Eather the Tree of life, or the Flower of life will be transposed over the whole peice.  if i use the Tree of life, Kether (the 1st sipheroth at the top) will be over the milkyway.  If i use the Flower of life, it's center will be at the middle of the page, pointing to "no-thingness".      

Tell me what you think-  i will be resonding soon to talk about 5D.

Tri Section

Here is the finished 3D model.  i merged some of the ideas for 4D into this rendition.   im don't seem organized, at first glance.

Tri Section

Here is the finished 3D model.  i merged some of the ideas for 4D into this rendition.   im don't seem organized, at first glance.

Moonburn33

i always thought of the first 3 mathematical dimensions to be the physical world that we know and love.. the essential material being energy (remember that all matter is energy)- having dimension #4 be the etheric layer/dimension of the universe.  the primary material of that being prana in all its forms.  let me explain myself a bit.

i've noticed that prana/chi/whatever always exists "before" matter.  by before i mean fourth dimensionally, mathematically speaking (let's forget time for a second).  imagine a point of space in front of you and then go into that point- that's what i've always  perceived of as the fourth dimension. now back to that "before" idea:  this would explain the ability for prana to transport across huge distances with no lag between the two points (think wormhole).

as for a fifth dimension, my vote is for mental, or what we'd refer to as mental.  the reason why i skip the astral is because i think that the astral plane/layer is something completely different and is a product of a gestalt (the whole is greater than the sum of its parts) phenomena.  i don't agree with the traditional onion-like, linear way of describing planes.
as below, so above

Moonburn33

I killed this thread, didn't I?
as below, so above

Ybom

First, I feel like apologizing for abandoning this thread for a week, since I have been focused in a different line/path for a bit.

And how interesting this has become, since I just rerererererereread the last posts by Moonburn33 and Tri Section; both of you guys agree essentially as to what 4d is! Yay! So the linking of all points to each other (aka - wormholes always have existed and always are available from any point to any other) is 4d. I'm just interested as to why this takes precedence over time in both of your minds.

>One thing I've always considered is the fact that all dimentions are as important as the other and should not be given the limitations that we put on them as such, so I suggest having no particular order for what you have other than for your own organizational purposes. Essentially meaning that 0d really isn't 0d, it's just another dimention that you've labeled 0d because it looks like the mast basic one. Is it really so basic? <Just a suggestion

Anyhoo, I'm not too sure what to say beyond that. I'm a little confused as to a few points that you have right now Tri Section and I think you should elaborate on where this is going for you, and as to what you currently have.
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Moonburn33

a.) i leave time out of the equation because i don't have any real conceptions about it that are even remotely insightful.  it's a work in progress

b.)where i'm going with this.. i'm not really sure.. i guess that this is just a side effect of trying to conceptualize the reality that i sense and coming to terms with the fact that it isn't how most people think it is.  What i was trying to get across is the fact that i'm not sure that the traditional model, names, classifications etc. is the best way to go for this field of study.  the universe is much more complicated than modern models of existence describe them as being.  from the standpoint of ultimate reality- i believe that the cosmos, in its entirety, is composed of an infinite number of dimensions.  dogma will not help us in our endeavors.  

anything you're confused about in my ideas, just ask- i'm around.
as below, so above

Moonburn33

oh, and as for where i'm at right now- i'm trying to work the fifth dimension into this equation in some way- if it can be.

and there's that whole time thing....
as below, so above

Moonburn33

i'm really starting to think that the whole 7 plane existence model is wholly incorrect, oversimplified, dogmatic way of perceiving the universe.

it has come to my realization that everything in the mind is perfectly expressed in the physical body as muscle tension/alignment and muscle memory-  Everything.  so much so that i think that someone who's superbly good at reading people's minds could find out very specific thoughts that a person could be having, just from the way they hold their body.
i'm afraid that the new age model is wrong.  dead wrong.
as below, so above

Moonburn33

i'm not sure if chi is only in fourth dimensional space- as you can move it in a normal, linear fashion as well.  well, maybe a few of those dimensions- i'm not sure.  do streams of chi have width?  can you make them wide?  i think that they might be missing the second dimension (of height/width).  i'm not sure though- maybe someone can help me out here.

it could also be that our linear way of thinking is interpreting a fourth dimensional movement as being linear and three dimensional.
as below, so above

Tri Section

Greetings Children of Man, Son and Daughters of Light

I am a student at the Maryland Institue Collage of Art, and i am creating a visual representation of the multidimentional model that our universe illistraights itself with.    After reading the PLeiadian Agenda a number of times, i'm now absorbing how important it is to be awair of multidimensionality.  My plan is to gather information about each of these  levels, then create a variety of art work to correlate to these plains.  

i would like to dedicate this post to information about each of these levels.  Any feedback about how you see this model visually would be much appreciated. As well as any books, articles or any all encompusing idea would also be welcome.  

Here is a condensed discription of the 1-4th level.  please disagree if you choose.

1D- center of Earth's core.  Iron crystal dominates this realm.  It is the sourse of Bliss and Harmoney.  This center holds incredible power because it is Giea's heartbeat.    

2D- The Telluric realm, home to the elemental spirit's, located in the Mantle of the Earth.  Here are the Deep Caverns and the some of the basic mettaloids.

3D- The physicle relm, where Earth is bathed in 3D light from the Sun.  understanding principles of inertia, activating the dense aspects of Will and Compassion.

4D- Astral Body, generated and regenerated through emotion.  Earth receives 4D light from the other planets in our solar system, and representations emotion and circumstance.