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« on: February 17, 2006, 00:54:54 »

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2006, 05:59:14 »

A very interesting find indeed. So is he denying the existence of deja vu completely or.....is he describing what a deja vu really is and when we actually see the moment again and the future added on as a premonition. hmmm you definitely find interesting articles from time to time.
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2006, 05:59:14 »

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2006, 20:49:37 »

Interesting article. Thanks.   smiley

I have experienced a large number of occasions where I would meet a person for the first time and I would feel like I have met the person before, like I knew the person from somewhere, even though I know for a fact that I do not.

It only happens with people though, not locations so much ... maybe there is something wrong with the part of my brain that stores and retrieves memories of faces?  rolleyes
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2006, 15:59:57 »

Interesting article.

By the way it could be of interest to mention that in another article I read time ago the author stated that the explanation to this kind of phenomenon is that nervous energy gets trapped in the spinal cord and it's, also, processed there.

When the preprocessed nervous energy arrives at the brain the upper nervous tries to process a preprocessed signal, which it's not normal, so the conclusions obtained by the brain are totally different. It's a kind of double processing system.

They were surprised by the capability of the spinal cord to do this kind of functioning. Nowadays it would not be so surprising due to the fact that scientists have found little brains distributed around the body, as in the guts, the penis, the thymus and so on.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2006, 20:34:01 »

For me, deja vu is usually a situation or a location, not people.

andonitxo, do you have an article about those little brains? I'm curious.. Could they have something to do with chakras..?
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2006, 08:10:13 »

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For me, deja vu is usually a situation or a location, not people.

andonitxo, do you have an article about those little brains? I'm curious.. Could they have something to do with chakras..?


Dingo,

I'm afraid I don't remember where the hell I read it.

And about your second question the major chakras are directly linked to glands, as I was able to read on a text by Golden Dawn sect. With brain, throat and heart it's clear (pineal, thyroid and thymus). With the other ones I don't know, really. The solar chakra is directly related to the nerves in the solar plexus and the belly-button's one with the spleen. Muladara, for sure, with the sexual ones... Anyway a farther research should be done.

The best known second brain is in the guts. For every signal pulse the brain sends to them, they send back ten pulses. That's why food and emotions are so tightly related.

The third (best known) is in the penis, more precisely in the glans. Around sex there are other interesting theories, as the effect of the sexual liquids in the mouth (how vaginal fluids and sperm alters brain functioning when they're tasted).

I'll try to find the mentioned article.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2006, 15:29:43 »

Dingo, here's an article about the second brain in the gut:

http://www.hosppract.com/issues/1999/07/gershon.htm

googling "stomach +brain" or "second brain" should bring up a lot of articles.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2006, 15:38:23 »

Regarding Chakras, people have suggested chakras are related to the endocrine system.


Here's a link on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Chakras_and_the_endocrine_system

As far as i'm aware, this is a western addition, rather than an association from Eastern literature where chakras originated from.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2006, 19:27:42 »

Thanks for those articles, MisterJingo.
The endocrine system does seem like a good match, but there's no direct translation for the root chakra Sad
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2006, 09:21:47 »

(I'm sorry if this sounds awkward or a bit rash... sleep is probably a good idea...)

On the contrary, I find a lot of deja vu as things I originally dreamed and forgot about... only to then appear right in front of me at a _very_ chance moment, such as what Robert Bruce mentions about the akashic pulse, towards the end of Astral Dynamics. (Some very... interesting things have happened to me through deja vu.) It's been related to something that you should really pay attention to, or that you're coming closer to whereever it is you need to be. [Regards to a dear friend of mine...]

It looks like the article talks about the physical aspect of deja vu, as in certain cases of epilepsy, or how someone can force it through the use of certain substances, or electrical stimulation to the ?temporal lobe?... which seems to lack the otherworldly messages of the kind that is mentioned above, IMO.

However, I can relate to the feeling, about one particular day... when it felt like reliving what you could have sworn you did just several months ago, but you can't remember when.


Again, my apologies...
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2006, 10:57:55 »

I wouldn't describe the occurrances of deja vu that I experience as being chronic, but perhaps prolific.

The article that started this topic is actually quite good, if you wish to discount anything non-physical as an explanation.

On a personal level I've come to understand the deja vu I experience as being signposts. I get deja vu quite frequently, but only when I'm in the right place at the right time. The deja vu acts as a confirmation, and is always accompanied by a lovely peaceful feeling.

Now that I've started paying more attention to them, I've also come to sense something like "date stamps" on my flashes of deja vu - a very clear and concise feeling of how "old" the original memory is. My most recent flash, on Friday, I clearly remember first "seeing" the event two years ago. The "older" the deja vu flash is, the more profound the feeling that's associated with it.

Its just like my higher self shows me something that would happen in the future, and when it finally does happen, after several years, I get a very strong sense my higher self is telling me "see? I told you so!"

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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2006, 12:12:50 »

I get something that i think is de ja vu, but i am not sure whether it is. Is de ja vu where you FEEL you have been there before? Because when i have "de ja vu" i KNOW what is going to happen next. The longest it has gone for is about 1 minute, and when i do energy work i get it quite often.
Is my thing the same as what you guys are talking about ie: knowing what will happen? (that does actually happen)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2006, 12:21:22 »

astral man, thats called precognition. I do get similar feelings but they dont last that long.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2006, 12:23:32 »

Thanks for such a hasty reply....so i have been calling it the wrong thing all along...lol, i shall take the new term on board and try to use it in future so i do not confuse people  cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2006, 00:38:17 »

Deja Vu article-
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In experiments, the Leeds team has begun inducing deja vu in healthy
student volunteers. Volunteers are asked to remember specific words, and
then hypnotized to forget them. Then they're shown the words again to
provoke a feeling they've seen the words before.
 How can they make sure that because they were hypnotized to 'forget' something, they actually did forget it?  This sounds a little shifty to me.
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2006, 01:20:34 »

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I wouldn't describe the occurrances of deja vu that I experience as being chronic, but perhaps prolific.

The article that started this topic is actually quite good, if you wish to discount anything non-physical as an explanation.

On a personal level I've come to understand the deja vu I experience as being signposts. I get deja vu quite frequently, but only when I'm in the right place at the right time. The deja vu acts as a confirmation, and is always accompanied by a lovely peaceful feeling.

Now that I've started paying more attention to them, I've also come to sense something like "date stamps" on my flashes of deja vu - a very clear and concise feeling of how "old" the original memory is. My most recent flash, on Friday, I clearly remember first "seeing" the event two years ago. The "older" the deja vu flash is, the more profound the feeling that's associated with it.

Its just like my higher self shows me something that would happen in the future, and when it finally does happen, after several years, I get a very strong sense my higher self is telling me "see? I told you so!"

Blessings,
James.


That is exactly how I feel about it!  It is like a confirmation that you are on the right path and are fullfilling your goals.  I don't have them that often though and not on a regular basis.  Do yours, or anyone else, do you find there is a pattern?
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2006, 00:56:56 »

I once got pulled into sleep,by what and whom i don't know.
It was a Saturday about 11.00 a.m chilling in my room.
It was a strong hold, and i was suddenly in a huge auditorium there were red coated people who singled me out of a group in a single file.
I followed and walked into a room, where there was some specialist looking people standing round waiting, a women near a huge covered object said "are u ready to fly?", i was well there believe me I've always hated flying and looked at her and said "what" she said don't worry my son died when he was only fifteen i said "no way" broke down to my knees and started crying!.
Pattern's for me seem to occur when you are reading life true.. interacting, whether with scientific development, nature, your job or family&friends, a few months past and a top boss in a x company said we need someone to continue a project that can only continue if you will fly abroad and stay for a couple of months, initially i said no but was then persuaded to say yes!, a da ja vu  a prophecy/precognition??
Sat in a bar 1000's miles away from home, a couple were sat at a bar first locals i chatted with  said ya don't sound like ya come from  round here/ what ya doing this side of the pond e.c.t i knew then she'd lost her son i didn't want to ask her to validate my experience but after a good night she said her son died when he was fifteen and to "go for it" in life.
change my outlook for sure!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2006, 22:22:24 »

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That is exactly how I feel about it!  It is like a confirmation that you are on the right path and are fullfilling your goals.  I don't have them that often though and not on a regular basis.  Do yours, or anyone else, do you find there is a pattern?

This seems to be very much in line with what I've been experiencing.

There was a point in time where they seemed to indicate the "right" series of actions over several weeks, leading up to a very... significant paradigm shift. (Incidentally, this was several months in to when I had just discovered OBEs and metaphysics and such.)

They otherwise also appear to vary in quality / perceived significance, ranging from just a vague hint of familiarity, different from simply seeing it twice... to that distinct _feeling_ lasting for a rather startling (to say the least) ten-plus seconds.

For example, I sometimes look back at what I've been doing throughout the day, and then remember that I had "seen" those instances before, but they did not strike me as being familiar at the time (usually several of them, appearing to come from the same dream, if you will). Conversely, there is a _much_ different feel if they are recognized at that moment, or if they are accompanied by repeating numbers or such.

Nevertheless, if there is something of great significance, deja vu can certainly grab your attention.

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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2006, 01:03:15 »

Yeah, I kind of get the same thing as Astral Man.  I'll be in Math class or something and I'll start talking, then I'll remember that if I say something then they'll say another thing and they actually do.  Or I know that they are going to drop something.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2006, 02:43:28 »

Often, I am 100% certain I have heard songs and seen movies before they came out.

And in another deja vu thread, I said:
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As I age, Deja Vus become more frequent and last longer each time...

I get them about twice a week, more or less. (Not too often is it less though)

They usually last a whopping 2 minutes. (Again, more or less)

The longest was about 8 minutes, it started normal, but then I realised I was 'Deja Vu-ing' and knew everything that was going to happen. Really cool.

I personally like Deja Vus, they spice up your day. Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2006, 12:35:44 »

usually i don't have deja vus but every now and then on any random day i will have about 3 or 4 of them and they're very strange and last about a minute.

When this happens i feel slightly dizzy and like I'm in a dream...does anybody else get those feelings?

I'm not sure however if its a spiritual thing or if the brain is just more mysterious then i thought :S though i do have to admit as was previously stated i do feel like a deja vu is a kind of signpost that I'm heading towards something or that I'm on the right path.
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2006, 19:47:09 »

Astral man,

I have the same deja vu experience as you. The last one (quite awhile back) was a conversation in a car. The driver said something and all of a sudden I knew what the other person would say in reply. It was sort of funny because I would say mentally what would be said out loud just seconds later. This went on for probably 3 or 4 minutes, then faded into the normal "present." It was almost as if I were in two dimensions for a brief time, then phased back into just one.

Loppoppy,

Yes, every time I get that feeling, I am just slightly dizzy or somehow "out of it." As the deja vu passes, so does the physical oddness.

Seems like if people experienced this sort of thing chronically, they would be able to make a record of it and validate it.  But if all they get is that vague "been here before" feeling, that would not be possible.
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2006, 13:22:54 »

there is another explanation for deja vu.  The one side of the brain is getting informations or stimuli  from the sense organs  the fraction of the second before the other one.  So we do rememeber past, and deja vu is remebering  but actually  event happend  for  one side of the brain fraciton of  second before to the other.
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2006, 01:12:56 »

I used to get deja vu 5-7 days a week, lately it's been only 1-3 times a week or even every two weeks.
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2006, 13:02:02 »

Now that you mention it, i do indeed feel a little light in the head when i am having such experiences. I fell as though i am slightly behind myself...well my head anyway...like i have just drifted back a little bit. I am not sure if that is what you are talking about though...

Do you guys find that if you do energy work or try and astral project that you get them even more? I have not done energy work for a little while and the experiences quickly died away after i stopped. Could there be some sort of relation to energy work and precognition? All theories are welcomed  grin

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