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« on: March 10, 2007, 09:55:24 »

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2007, 07:18:46 »

I unfortunatly saw the shlong in fight club no problem (I beleive that wasnt the only one). According to BBCN that was 1/24th of a second. They also use it in 'the life of david gale' for some stupid reason. I must admit it angers me that they would even try subliminal messages (and it is hard to anger me). To me it is the worste kind of infringement on a person, the fact that it is legal in the US goes to show how the US government only wants people as farm animals to consumerism and taxes.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2007, 07:18:46 »

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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2007, 16:49:38 »

"The researchers cite the example of the film Fight Club, where a character who works as a cinema projectionist inserts a single frame of pornography into the 24 frames of a film shown each second.

In the movie, those watching were unaware of the split-second shot, but felt depressed or aggressive afterwards."

The researchers are using "Fight Club" as evidence? That's too funny.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2007, 19:45:34 »

I posted this as there was always doubt in regards to the effectiveness of subliminal messaging, but it looks like it might actually have a greater effect than some presumed. I think the part in fightclub ( a bit of a weird example, but I guess they tried to think of a popular culture references their readers would know about), they don't play it at 24 frames a sec, so the viewers actually see it. If it was at proper speed it shouldn't register.
Derren Brown has produced some fantasic examples of subliminal messaging, in one episode he actually used a group of professional advertisers to create a compaign based upon a very broad spec he gave them. They all produced a very similar idea to what he had created prior to them arriving. It turned out that he had set up a series of subliminal ques on their way to his building, and these, with the spec, forced their minds to travel towards the same idea. It just shows how great an influence environment has on our mind, outlook and decision making processes and we are not consciously aware of it (it makes one considder how we could possibly seperate our own decisions from those influced by our environment - and how we would ever be able to tell them apart).
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2007, 22:18:02 »

Derren Brown has produced some fantasic examples of subliminal messaging,

When I saw him live, he told the audience that he was going to show a short clip (film) with subliminal messages that when watched, would subconsciously make those sitting in certain rows/seats feel compelled to come on stage.

He warned us beforehand that we would be watching subliminal messages, and if we were prone to epilepsy or were parents and wanted to protect our children, to leave the auditorium now.

No-one left.  grin

We all then watched this strange and, I have to say, terribly boring clip about old scientists.  It was in black and white and was about the history of scientists (from what I remember).

However, being Derren Brown, before this clip he had already written in a sealed envelope those seats/rows/ to whom the subliminal messages would resonate.  Thereby telling us that he knew the formula, knew the magic, and knew how to manipulate it before it happened.

As it happened, the four people who came forward tallied with his predictions, apart from one, who was one seat out (but on the same row).

It was odd, because the people sat around me were saying to their friends "I feel I should be up there on stage, I'm sure it's me blah blah blah.  Even the person I went with (a total sceptic) got sweaty palms. 

Me being me, I decided to not be influenced before the clip was shown - and therefore wasn't influenced - but I knew it was easy to influence me.  Now me being me is very gullible and influential, but once I'd decided I wasn't going to be, whatever, I wasn't.  I sat there calm as cucumber.  When the film was over and everyone was fidgeting, I was looking around, slightly smiling and feeling very "above" everyone (in a levitating way, not an ego way).

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I'm rambling.

I went to a spiritualist church service for the first time last night and there was a visiting medium...

I will tell more if you ask... suffice to say it was interesting.

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2007, 04:40:56 »

I went to a spiritualist church service for the first time last night and there was a visiting medium...

I will tell more if you ask... suffice to say it was interesting.

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A medium at church? All the churches I've been to would toss her in a cauldron of boiling holy water. What are these spiritualist churches called? And tell me your story    smiley
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 10:59:08 »

When I saw him live, he told the audience that he was going to show a short clip (film) with subliminal messages that when watched, would subconsciously make those sitting in certain rows/seats feel compelled to come on stage.

He warned us beforehand that we would be watching subliminal messages, and if we were prone to epilepsy or were parents and wanted to protect our children, to leave the auditorium now.

No-one left.  grin

We all then watched this strange and, I have to say, terribly boring clip about old scientists.  It was in black and white and was about the history of scientists (from what I remember).

However, being Derren Brown, before this clip he had already written in a sealed envelope those seats/rows/ to whom the subliminal messages would resonate.  Thereby telling us that he knew the formula, knew the magic, and knew how to manipulate it before it happened.

As it happened, the four people who came forward tallied with his predictions, apart from one, who was one seat out (but on the same row).

It was odd, because the people sat around me were saying to their friends "I feel I should be up there on stage, I'm sure it's me blah blah blah.  Even the person I went with (a total sceptic) got sweaty palms. 

Me being me, I decided to not be influenced before the clip was shown - and therefore wasn't influenced - but I knew it was easy to influence me.  Now me being me is very gullible and influential, but once I'd decided I wasn't going to be, whatever, I wasn't.  I sat there calm as cucumber.  When the film was over and everyone was fidgeting, I was looking around, slightly smiling and feeling very "above" everyone (in a levitating way, not an ego way).

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I definitely need to go see him – although I’d probably regret going if I was pulled out of the audience to go on stage Cheesy.
You bring up some interesting points Smiley. You were aware of his attempt at utilising subliminal messages and so you didn’t react to them – but what of we are not aware of these attempts, and so such messages are seeded into our subconscious.
It’s interesting that subliminal messages work at all, it at least suggests the brain has evolved in a way to take information in through such pathways (bypassing the conscious ‘I’. Perhaps we utilise the same pathways for intuitive knowledge, such as we soak up intricate detail on a person body language, intonation, facial expression (even down to slight singular muscle movement) and through this we immediately build a gut feeling of a person, situation etc. People calling themselves empaths just more into the moment and so able to take in more information.
It also opens the possibility that we unconsciously affect others (who take on board such information subconsciously), and they affect us in similar ways.

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I'm rambling.

I went to a spiritualist church service for the first time last night and there was a visiting medium...

I will tell more if you ask... suffice to say it was interesting.

 cheesy

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I’d be interested to hear about this Smiley. My elder Sister has been to many spiritualist churches and always has fantastic stories from there – I’ve been meaning to go with her to one for years, but haven’t got around to it yet. I always wonder if the sensitive people in such places would be able to pick up anything from me based upon my OBE activities.
Through my life I get a lot of comments from people regarding my eyes, some saying they seem to ‘buzz with electricity’ and really see into them, others say my eyes are full of goodness, and they can tell I’m the kind of person who makes people happy, others and yet others (a teacher being one!) telling me they would never trust anyone with eyes like mine. I just find it highly unusual to get any comments like these at all – they’re a bit out of the norm.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 11:02:41 »

A medium at church? All the churches I've been to would toss her in a cauldron of boiling holy water. What are these spiritualist churches called? And tell me your story    smiley

Hey Alaskans, in the UK, Spiritualist churchs are churchs which are concerned with spiritualist activities, things such as healing, clairvoyance, contacting the dead etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualist_Church
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 05:27:18 »

Through my life I get a lot of comments from people regarding my eyes, some saying they seem to ‘buzz with electricity’ and really see into them, others say my eyes are full of goodness, and they can tell I’m the kind of person who makes people happy, others and yet others (a teacher being one!) telling me they would never trust anyone with eyes like mine. I just find it highly unusual to get any comments like these at all – they’re a bit out of the norm.

The teacher probably just doesnt trust you only because your eyes are different, you know.. teachers. I've seen 2 different people with what seemed like cat eyes to me. One is a borderguard. The other was just some guy who walked past me. I never mentioned it before because I cant explain it, it seemed like I was seeing thier eyes with both physical and astral(?) sight. Seems very circumstantial but I've never experienced anything like that before.

Ive been meaning to go with her to one for years, but havent got around to it yet. I always wonder if the sensitive people in such places would be able to pick up anything from me based upon my OBE activities.
I did find a church that was simi-spiritualist. There are quite a few psychics (though they wont say that). It is a very long story, but I somehow had a huge effect on them, they were always telling me all kinds of things. At one point I had so much energy dumped on me it was painfull, I knew I could do anything I wanted with it and I did do something.. interesting, but thats another story. I was at a spiritual high though. Also I admit I didnt just sit there and pray; I was really impressed by the energy, so I helped construct a portal with the help of some light beings. Well, next week I went there it was still active (for 2 months). I wasnt really sure if it was my imagination or not until some of the more gifted people started talking about an 'open heaven'. I didnt mention my involvement. But I did get more of a sense of what was appropriate for me to talk about with them. One day at home I met someone called Samuel during meditation, maybe Samuel from the old testament as I requested someone from heaven. I actually just wanted someone to help with my meditation. Along with conversation, I was shown a bunch of hand signs, but I couldnt tell what direction they were moving, the hands seemed to be 2D. I told the people at the church about some of it. I thought they would be interested in what he had to say, but they just told me it was very wrong to speak to the dead. 'Dead' ? But I thought we dont die? So they are against mediumship. But then I carefully spoke to them metaphorical way about manipulating energy. I think they understood and didnt object, even encouraged (dont object to "magic" but do object to talking to people?) I have to really watch what I say, how did it get so complicated? (interestingly they told me a story about King Solomon employing a witch to summon Samuel to ask him advice.) They spoke a lot about my destiny, a subject i'm very touchy about (especially since my fate lines disapeared). I've been given big shoes before, but I seem to allways trip on them, one strength doesnt mean total strength, and mine comes with a big weaknesses, how could that be overlooked by everyone. This maybe doesnt have a lot to do with subliminal messages (maybe psychic ones), but it is some of my experience with my simi-spiritualist church.

Hmm... writing this has shown me how much I've got in touch with reality (ahhh the horror!). I must be working too much, or maybe I need to go back to my old practice.

EDIT: no churches in alaska http://www.nsac.org/churches/index.htm
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