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« on: June 04, 2021, 22:34:41 »

I've had TGE for some years now, but have only really tried the F10 track.  Gave up on it after hearing "you are now in focus 10" a hundred times.

The weird thing about TGE is, iirc, many of the tracks don't even go into theta.  So would seem less effective than just a theta BB track.  And I also hear that most of the tracks don't even provide a technique.  So I'm wondering what value is there to these tracks, for someone who just wants to phase?

I've also got a laxman light and sound machine, but can't really tell if it's any better than just a BB track.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2021, 00:07:45 »

I've had TGE for some years now, but have only really tried the F10 track.  Gave up on it after hearing "you are now in focus 10" a hundred times.

The weird thing about TGE is, iirc, many of the tracks don't even go into theta.  So would seem less effective than just a theta BB track.  And I also hear that most of the tracks don't even provide a technique.  So I'm wondering what value is there to these tracks, for someone who just wants to phase?

I've also got a laxman light and sound machine, but can't really tell if it's any better than just a BB track.
My take on all of these is they have utilize the same goal, per se and that they all create a altering of your brain waves. But even more than that, they get you used to the "feeling" of having your brain waves altered from a conscious state of awareness. So, you could say they work as part of a process of "brain entrainment", which I have personally found to be a very important part in the Art of Phasing.

 I have used a few of Robert's Walkthroughs. I listen to Binaural Beats or Isochronic Tones almost daily, especially before I go to sleep at night. I find the change in brainwaves that they give to be very relaxing. I also own the Laxman. I was the person that created the Laxman thread here on the Astral Pulse Forums. If it wasn't for my Trigeminal Neuralgia, I would still use it too. When i was just new to this practice, one session with the Laxman would be all it takes to bring me into a very deep state of brainwave alteration. Once the program ended, the session for the day normally did too. At that point in time, I didn't have the knowledge or ability to prolong the NP stat. Now, I don't need those "training wheels" or tools. But I found those training wheels/tools very helpful in learning to not only acquire, but continuing to acquire, a good non local state of consciousness.

 A few other members here that have actually used Robert's full program or have been to the Monroe Institute should be able to help you on the TGE part of your question. 
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2021, 02:24:23 »

Focus 10 uses theta and low delta binaural beats blended. I wouldn't really worry too much about the frequency following response. I think the carrier signals have greater importance than we might think.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2021, 02:31:17 »

Kree,
If you are using the Gateway Experience sound modalities then the various NP states are available to you...the rest is up to you. If you are finding difficulty then you need to search within yourself for what that reason is.

TGE as you describe it doesn’t offer the deeper levels of frequency you want, and that may be true...but the greater truth may be that you need to work a bit harder. You need to quit the idea that some online track is going to give you the experience like a gift...sorry, it doesn’t work that way.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2021, 01:29:53 »

I've had TGE for some years now, but have only really tried the F10 track.  Gave up on it after hearing "you are now in focus 10" a hundred times.

The weird thing about TGE is, iirc, many of the tracks don't even go into theta.  So would seem less effective than just a theta BB track.  And I also hear that most of the tracks don't even provide a technique.  So I'm wondering what value is there to these tracks, for someone who just wants to phase?

I've also got a laxman light and sound machine, but can't really tell if it's any better than just a BB track.
You're doing what I did... you're using your analytical mind too much.  If you're like me, you are listening to the WORDS and not what's BEHIND the words.
The words are mostly meaningless.  "You are now in focus 10..."... MEANINGLESS. 

I'm not really sure how to put this into worlds, but feel the words out with your consciousness.  Listen to the instructions, for sure... but also don't listen TO THE WORDS.  Listen to, literally, everything else BUT THE WORDS.

Does that make any sense? 
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2021, 04:31:06 »

A few additional ideas concerning those who are getting no results from trance, meditation or binaurals of various types, ie failure to launch-

1- Like Xanth indicated- Don’t be so analytical about the process, relax completely into the session even to the point of relaxing and falling asleep. It may take this happening several times to get to that ‘mental space’ where an experience can occur.

2- Gathering spiritual/psychic energy does actually seem to help, at least in my experience. So refraining from sex and doing some energy work might be an option. Also stay off the alcohol and drugs, being clean definitely helps.  Maybe it’s all about building ‘Intention’ instead or maybe it’s some of both; anyway, it has worked for me.

3- Concentrate your practice; if you really want to do this then be serious about it. Once a week or once every few days possibly doesn’t work for most people, especially if you have other subtle awareness issues to overcome. So maybe your schedule needs to be 3 times a day for 3 days or even a week. Or maybe it’s 5 times a day for 3 days. I recognize this makes it hard for many people, but that’s the dedication that brings people to TMI for a weeklong commitment that involves 5-7 45 minute sessions a day for 5-6 days. And for some people, including me, it can take a day or two before we start getting desired results. This often results in a high degree of ‘performance anxiety’ and you start questioning how deep you are in each session, am I getting to the right Focus level? What am I doing wrong? The answer is to just relax and go with wherever you are...the right experience, the proper lesson you need at that moment will happen.

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