Techs. to defend against spiritual attackers

[Alex]

Hey,

I was personally attacked by a person at least two times in my life...
It was an energetical/magical/psychic attack of course - not a physical one

When it happened for the first time, I knew nothing about methods of self defence...
Yet I had to do something so I just 'made up' a shielding technique based on the NEW system (generally it was just wrapping your whole body with energy)...
The attack was rather mild so it stopped
The second time when it happened to me, I did some magical shielding...(Robert was describing some basic methods for that in a post on AstralResearch Forum some time ago)
It also helped much - I even counterattacked then

So I guess the first rule is to know many various methods of self defence, and to just do what suits best (whatever works works :-DDD
And generally it is important to follow your intuition when under attack - it usually tells you the best possible option...

Just my 2 cents

Regards,
Alex

Human life is full of magic, one only needs to spot it.

[Two Bears]

Hello Blue light Mystic:

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Hi again all. i was wondering if others would maybe like to come together on this particular forum section, Psychic Self Defense area and discuss ways one could protect/defend oneself if one feels as
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There are dozens of way to protect one-self from psychic attacks or entity attacks.

The indian way of using sage or sage and cedar bundle to drive out negative entiies, then using sweet grass to invite the good spirits.

There is the HUNA way of asperging salt water throughout the house with a ti leaf.

there is the Catholic way of using holy water,

There is the Feng Shui way or using a Paqua (also spelled ba gua) mirror to reflect the shars (poisoin arrows)

A Protestant minister walking through the house reading scripture aloud. Matthew 18: 15-20 works pretty well (This is where Jesus gives his followers the authority to cast out unclean spirits).

There is the Wicca method of using a mirror to reflect the entities or psychic attack away then using Copal incense, then casting a circle around the house.

In the middle east using resins such as Frankinsence.

etc. The list is ALMOST endless.

The reason I know so many is because for an exorcism to be successful; the person the exorcist is performing the exorcism for; must have faith the exorcism will work.

If the person does not have faith the exorcism will work, and has the courage to draw draw the line and say no more.

I was forced to develop the inner strength very early in life, and tell the spirits where to get off when I was still a child. I was raised "christian" and I used Matthew 18: 15-20.

In my reviews at Amazon.com I am fond of using the quote "Sometimes the Shaman has to be the 800 pound gorilla and tell the spirits where to get off.


Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[Donni_Joy]

Hello!

first of all, Two Bears, were you on the Reiki newsgroup... and you advised me with a ritual at one point through Wombat in Holland?

One of the best effective psychic counter-measures if there are energy/entities around has been simple.... turning on the light!!!!!!!! Worked for me.... and later cleansing and prayer and other spiritual practices stopped their return. These two entities were seen (and smelt) by my and a friend's very own eyes, wide awake, not astral sight.



gotta dash but interested in this thread!

Cheers
Donni



'"Dreams are true while they last, and do we not live in dreams?" In answer to Tennyson, I pose this question: truth lasts while there are dreams, and do we not dream in truth? ' from my whacky novel, "LUST"  http://dreamingspace.homestead.com/

[Two Bears]

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Hello!
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Hello; my sister.

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first of all, Two Bears, were you on the Reiki newsgroup... and you advised me with a ritual at one point through Wombat in Holland?
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Yes; I am in the Reiki newsgroup, and know Wombat. So it more than likely me.

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One of the best effective psychic counter-measures if there are energy/entities around has been simple.... turning on the light!!!!!!!! Worked for me.... and later cleansing and prayer and other spiritual practices stopped their return. These two entities were seen (and smelt) by my and a friend's very own eyes, wide awake, not astral sight.
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That works for many of them; but not all of them. Never say something always works.

Once I had to exorcize one of the old ones twice the same night. This entity was exorcized, and that only made it madder as soon as smudge cleared it crossed my wards as if they were not even there! Even the ground shook when it walked. It was not giving up the host that easy, so I exorcized it again, but this time was able reach an amicable solution; but it took (3 against 1 (myself, my Bear totem animal, and one of the Hawaiian Akua (Kanaloa). (This was the only time I ever saw the Bear show any fear at all (The Bear and I have gone up against many bad ones in soul retrieval journeys), and I knew I was in Deeeeeeep trouble if I didn't find a solution). This exorcism was done in my apartment (where I spend about 30 minutes a day in prayer, spend 20-25 minutes a day in Qigong, repeatedly strengthen my wards, (after I was attached by someone sending a choking ghost to attack me August a year ago) and the lights were on.

This entity was powerful, and was ANGRY.

Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[Violet]

Dear Blue Light Mystic,

Barbara Ann Brennan has some great pictures for those who wish to visual what a psychic attack looks like on a visual auric level. She provides lots of illustrations in her book "Light Emerging".  She focusses on psychic attacks that are coming from living people.

Also I would like to add that when I am functioning at very, very high vibrational rates that I do not get bothered by the 'nasties'.  I find that they do not feel comfortable if the energy you are emitting is very  high in vibration.  I can tell when my energy is high because I can feel  certain chakras start spinning.  The faster they turn the higher to level I am reaching.  I remember a few incidents I had.  Many years ago I exited the apartment I was living in and sensed something.  I looked to the end of the alley and saw a cloud of black mass.  It immediately sensed me looking at it and turned.  I felt so sad for it that I sent a tremendous wave of healing love towards it.  It fled in terror.  After this experience I started realizing that these things only like taking energy that is at a vibrational rate that they can 'digest'.  So it is not so much asking to be surrounded by white light.  It is actually taking white light into self and really putting oneself right into the light.  A powerful visualization is to open the door to Gods Thrown.  Visualize God sitting with the Cheribum singing where all is Absolute Light.  I bow in honor and then stand before God.  Sometimes I do this visualization to bring my prayer to the highest level.  You would not believe the sudden upsurge in vibration this visualization creates.  The lower beings can not stand this energy it is too high for them.  I think it makes them feel like they are burning or something.  I also had another strange experience where after mediation where my aura was fully expanded I got on the bus.  No one noticed anything except this one lady who had a violent reaction to me.  She shreiked and stared at me terrified and grabbed for the bus string to ring the bell for the next stop.  She tried to get as far away from me as fast as possible.  I have never seen the like.  The entity latched on to her must have been terrified by me.  This only happend once to me.  Please note.  I very rarely walk around in a high vibration state but I know how to reach it when I need it and I know from my experiences that negative entities can stand the energy at this high vibration state.  

Thanks for starting a great folder.

All the very, very best,
Violet

[RandomName]

Just an idea, but I have a good imagination on many things. Since the power of the human mind is practically infinite, if not infinite, then heres some ideas, although im knew to projection. I recently projected the first time, and got use to the environment. OOOOK
Idea #1. For a good sheild, visualise a translucent energy shield that covers the entire front of your body, and everytime the enemy strikes, have it flash white and grow, defelecting the attack.
Idea #2. Decimate the spirit with a strong attack yourself.Heres an idea based on a Tai Chi manuever I read about. Simply take energy and place it in a ball around your hand, and raise your arm up, back, then bring it foward as if a punch, and FEEL the energy leaving your hand, and smashing into the opposing entity.

These are just ideas and untested, but if humans tons of power in the astral world, then why wouldn't these ideas work? If they do, give me credit

[Blue Light Mystic]

Hi Alex, -smile- how did you know that someone was spiritually attacking you? at the time, did you also know exactly who he/she was?
did he/she give ya the evil eye? ever heard of that term used before? my grandmother always use to say that someone gave me the evil eye because they were jealous of me whenever i was starting to come down with some kind of sickness. i always use to shrug it off whenever she told me that while i was little, but now, i'm wondering if that could be a true thing?

that's also great that you've come up with using NEW as well as a touch of your own technique. and, good thing that the attack was only mild! a lot of times even though thank God that they're very rare whenever i'm attacked by someone on a spiritual/mind level, they make me cringe to my knees in great pain and force me to have a horrible headache! they're so painful that i have to lie down on my bed until it's over! i don't just lie there though, i look around by using astral sight to see if i can see if it really is an attacker or not, and most of the time it is! i then very intently continue to lie there on my bed and pray to God to please help me and within several minutes, it's over. -smile- this hasn't happened for me for several months now, and hope it never does happen to me again!

that's really neat that you've used a type of counterattack shielding! i like that! it kind of reminds me of something from a role playing video game such as a shielding counterattack on one of the FFVII-Final Fantasy games. i believe that this could work for real though, especially when one's dealing with something spiritual.

yes, i also agree that it would be important for one to know how to use different kinds of spiritual protection and defense as you've said, "So I guess the first rule is to know many various methods of self defence, and to just do what suits best (whatever works works :-DDD And generally it is important to follow your intuition when under attack - it usually tells you the best possible option...", as the more one knows, the more successful of a change you'll have in being able to really protect yourself!


Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

And hi again to you as well Two Bears. -kind smile- yes, i agree that there are many many ways we can use to spiritually protect ourselves like you said. i was once taught how to burn and use sage whenever i was quite young by a psychic who was probably taught by an Indian who lived within her area. i believe that it's called, smudging. thank you for including what you know here. i'm sure others who read this forum section are also thankful. so, yes, burning sage really does work! i've used it before as well. i've never heard of using grass to invite good spirits though! that sounds unusual! couldn't one just use flowers? -laugh- of course, one never really knows unless one will at least try!

"The indian way of using sage or sage and cedar bundle to drive out negative entiies, then using sweet grass to invite the good spirits." Two Bears

"There is the HUNA way of asperging salt water throughout the house with a ti leaf." Two Bears. that's quite neat. i've heard of using salt water before, but not with using a ti leaf? is this like warding one's house or something with salt water and sprinkling it around outside of the home with it pouring off of the ti leaf?

"there is the Catholic way of using holy water," Two Bears. yes, using holy water of course, the good old fashioned Catholic way!
-smile-

"There is the Feng Shui way or using a Paqua (also spelled ba gua) mirror to reflect the shars (poisoin arrows)". Two Bears. what in the world is that? is that by using a poison arrow frog's skin excretion and putting it on the arrow and pointing it into a mirror? sorry, i don't know all that much about Feng Shui. -smile-

"A Protestant minister walking through the house reading scripture aloud. Matthew 18: 15-20 works pretty well (This is where Jesus gives his followers the authority to cast out unclean spirits)." Two Bears. yes, there's always asking a priest or minister to do this too.

"There is the Wicca method of using a mirror to reflect the entities or psychic attack away then using Copal incense, then casting a circle around the house." Two Bears. very intriguing.

"In the middle east using resins such as Frankinsence." of couse one could always use some kind of sage or incense to burn inside of the house!

"The reason I know so many is because for an exorcism to be successful; the person the exorcist is performing the exorcism for; must have faith the exorcism will work." Two Bears. yes, this is true too! in order for anything to work, seemingly, one must have faith and believe in something for it to work! yes, having doubt in it working is like saying, it's not going to work.

"I was forced to develop the inner strength very early in life, and tell the spirits where to get off when I was still a child. I was raised "christian" and I used Matthew 18: 15-20." Two Bears. well, what do you mean by this, telling the spirits where to get off? does that mean you wanted them to leave because they were bad and were bothering you? sometimes if i'm able to see something with astral sight that i think is not good, i don't like or frightens me, i say stop, go away now with a firm thought and great intensity inside of my mind to whatever i'm seeing and within seconds it disappears!

"In my reviews at Amazon.com I am fond of using the quote "Sometimes the Shaman has to be the 800 pound gorilla and tell the spirits where to get off." Two Bears. this is kind of humorous! i like that! does get off mean leave though? -smile-

thanks for sharing all of your tips on this subject! i'm sure others are thankful as well! -warm smile-



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from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

Well hello to you too Donni. -smile- are you and Two Bears Reiki masters? they sure are kind, giving and compassionate people! if you and Two Bears are, can you tell me what you Reiki colors are that you use? i know one and she uses yellow and was the last color she ever expected to have to get too! -smile- i believe that yellow is the color that the sun gives off, light energy particle wise. or, is it the color of parana?

well, yes, i've also turned on the light at times too whenever i was hearing something scratching on my bedroom wall a few times near my closet doors while i was once living in an apartment! it would happen sometime in the middle of the night and i thought that i was caught in an inbetween waking state where one may be partially in and out of their body. and, due to being partially in and out of my body, this would happen every so often and would really scare the honest to God heck out of me! i'd quickly force myself to get back into my body to wake up and the instant i'd hit my light to go on, the noise would stop! also, i talked to my roommates about this and found out that it might've just been coming from a little chipmunk that was living around our room outside, especially since we lived on the first floor! but, you really never know! it reaallllyyyy could've been something entirely different.......

"One of the best effective psychic counter-measures if there are energy/entities around has been simple.... turning on the light!!!!!!!! Worked for me.... and later cleansing and prayer and other spiritual practices stopped their return. These two entities were seen (and smelt) by my and a friend's very own eyes, wide awake, not astral sight."

that's kind of weird, that your friends were able to smell and even see what the entities looked like, especially while they were fully awake and aware! amazing! but, not really.......maybe the entities they saw were ghosts or people who were Earthbound for some reason! they also could've been very advanced astral projectors as well, but who really can tell the differences between a ghost, an Earthbound entity and just a projector? now, that sure is a question to ponder about! -smile-

thanks for sharing your tips, especially the simple one, turning the lights on! -laugh and smile-

Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

Hello again Two Bears! -smile- yes Donni and Two Bears, one shouldn't agree on just using the same thing as well as believing that it will always be the one and only way to protect oneself from something. this is also why it would be wise to find other ways of protecting oneself against those that are unseen. why? as one technique or way may work for you it may not work at all on a certain kind of entity! there may be some who are more powerful than others, and may even require using more than one way to protect oneself instead of just using one way! maybe one way could work on he/she/it and another technique wouldn't work at all. one must see what will work, because all of them might be differently affected by other kinds of means of spiritual protection! -smile-

"One of the best effective psychic counter-measures if there are energy/entities around has been simple.... turning on the light!!!!!!!! Worked for me.... and later cleansing and prayer and other spiritual practices stopped their return. These two entities were seen (and smelt) by my and a friend's very own eyes, wide awake, not astral sight." Donni

"That works for many of them; but not all of them. Never say something always works." Two Bears. yes, i also agree here with you. more seems to be better, but also isn't the case in every situation either! we not only need to find techniques of protecting ourselves, but we also need to see which ones are most effective against various kinds of lower astral entities and the like. -smile-

"Once I had to exorcize one of the old ones twice the same night. This entity was exorcized, and that only made it madder as soon as smudge cleared it crossed my wards as if they were not even there! Even the ground shook when it walked. It was not giving up the host that easy, so I exorcized it again, but this time was able reach an amicable solution; but it took (3 against 1 (myself, my Bear totem animal, and one of the Hawaiian Akua (Kanaloa). (This was the only time I ever saw the Bear show any fear at all (The Bear and I have gone up against many bad ones in soul retrieval journeys), and I knew I was in Deeeeeeep trouble if I didn't find a solution). This exorcism was done in my apartment (where I spend about 30 minutes a day in prayer, spend 20-25 minutes a day in Qigong, repeatedly strengthen my wards, (after I was attached by someone sending a choking ghost to attack me August a year ago) and the lights were on.

This entity was powerful, and was ANGRY." Two Bears

yes Two Bears. exorcisms and trying to protect oneself from entities and the like can also be dangerous! especially ones who may become very angry at one who's doing this! it's horrible how this can be! i guess in looking at doing such a thing like this from their point of view would be like two men who become angry at one another for doing something that provoked them to fight each other! i believe that i've heard Robert talk about i guess, monks or Tibetian monks who've found out about and have developed a variety of ways to respectively tell bad spirits and other lower beings to leave a person who they're causing to have an incurable illness! now, that really is a somewhat fascinating way to deal with them, through respect and a way that they'd approve of too! -wink-







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[Blue Light Mystic]

Hello again Violet! -warm smile- thanks for telling me about that! that sounds quite weird but now i'm curious as to see what that would look like! i'll look into this more to see what her interpretation on what these attacks look like. i can kind of imagine though what that would look like, but i may be wrong though, so that's why i'd like to further see what she thinks too! i'm sure that these attacks could also come from discarnates and people who are Earthbound too.

"Barbara Ann Brennan has some great pictures for those who wish to visual what a psychic attack looks like on a visual auric level. She provides lots of illustrations in her book "Light Emerging".  She focusses on psychic attacks that are coming from living people." Violet

"Also I would like to add that when I am functioning at very, very high vibrational rates that I do not get bothered by the 'nasties'." Violet

well, good for you! how lucky you are then! ah, but you never know, though. you should still be on your guard, right? what would happen if you get sick or are feeling depressed about something, like a death of a loved one or something? that's when one should really have their shields up! feeling this way is like saying to the nasties, hey, i'm down now, come and make me more miserable now, or, have some of my negative energy to feed off of! am i right? do correct me if i'm wrong! i don't mind. -smile-

"I can tell when my energy is high because I can feel certain chakras start spinning." Violet. may i ask you how that feels whenever you feel that your chakras are spinning? i'm a bit curious, that's all!
-smile-

"I remember a few incidents I had.  Many years ago I exited the apartment I was living in and sensed something.  I looked to the end of the alley and saw a cloud of black mass.  It immediately sensed me looking at it and turned.  I felt so sad for it that I sent a tremendous wave of healing love towards it.  It fled in terror." Violet. yes, i bet he/she/it reallllyyyy must've loved you for sending it love! i wonder what would've happened to it though, if it would've decided to -accept- the love you sent it?

"After this experience I started realizing that these things only like taking energy that is at a vibrational rate that they can 'digest'." Violet. this may be in the case of the one that you have come into contact with, but, i'm sure that there are also other kinds of nasties and other dark bumpety bumpies that go about bumping their heads into the wall at night -i'm joking around a little here-
who for some reason want to take in other kinds of energy that isn't necessarily just solidly on the negative side. maybe there are those who take good energy and use it or absorb it to empower themselves with too just like negative energy. you never know! -smile-

"I also had another strange experience where after mediation where my aura was fully expanded I got on the bus.  No one noticed anything except this one lady who had a violent reaction to me.  She shreiked and stared at me terrified and grabbed for the bus string to ring the bell for the next stop.  She tried to get as far away from me as fast as possible." Violet. how very strange for a person to actually react this way! maybe she really did have some kind of dark influence that was within her auric field that had caused her behave that way!

"Thanks for starting a great folder." Violet

and i kindly thank you for the kind comment, sharing your theories and techniques with me too! -wink and smile-

Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

Greetings Psi. i like your name! -smile-

"Since the power of the human mind is practically infinite, if not infinite, then heres some ideas, although im knew to projection. I recently projected the first time, and got use to the environment." Psi. i'm glad to hear that you've succeeded in having your first projection! isn't it fun? yes, i believe that the human mind as well as our imagination are infinite too.

"Idea #1. For a good sheild, visualise a translucent energy shield that covers the entire front of your body, and everytime the enemy strikes, have it flash white and grow, defelecting the attack.
Idea #2. Decimate the spirit with a strong attack yourself.Heres an idea based on a Tai Chi manuever I read about. Simply take energy and place it in a ball around your hand, and raise your arm up, back, then bring it foward as if a punch, and FEEL the energy leaving your hand, and smashing into the opposing entity." Psi

"These are just ideas and untested, but if humans tons of power in the astral world, then why wouldn't these ideas work? If they do, give me credit " Psi. i love your ideas! this reminds me of magick used in a rpg! how awesome! yes, i believe that these techniques that you've said here could very well work. advanced projectors should give them a try, as whenever it comes to how the astral works, mind power, having a focused and disciplined mind and thinking, believing and imagining what it is that you want to happen for you normally seems to work and is the main rule of this place! i may be confusing a lucid dream with an astral projection. lucid dreams also tend to behave this way too. lucid dreams are having the ability to control whatever happens in your dream by gaining awareness with your physical mind whenever you're having the dream at the same time. however, one can also think, imagine and create objects and the such while they're in the astral planes too, so, maybe lucid dreams and astral projections really are just the same thing?

i will also try your suggested techniques. i'm sure that they'd work as well! i liked the first one with the having your shield of light reflect the attack onto the enemy. and, the second one kind of sounds like shooting an energy ball towards the enemy, that could knock them down with a good old thud! very neat! -smile-

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[Alex]

Hello Blue Light Mystic,

(The variety of posts here is pretty confusing, so I'll just answer the one directed to me

How did I know I was under attack..?
I felt strange, unexplanaible, unpleasant coldness, I had a headache, I felt significant energy draining and I somehow just knew I'm under attack...
And yes - I know who he was, because actually I've started it...
I wanted to help someone who was under his attack all the time, so I send him a 'message'...  He attacked me the very same day...
Oh, and I remember that the next day I spend the night with my friends at their place, and everybody (except me) had the same dream - we were tied and someone was killing us in a brutal way...
And I think this attack was mild because it was sent from across the ocean (US to Europe)...

I've never heard the term 'evil eye', but english is not my native language
But I know that there is something like that...
Lately I've broke up with my girlfriend and I did it in a rather brutal way - she sure didn't like it...
For a few weeks my luck was gone - I realy think that was caused only by her bad thoughts about me...
Now she propably does't think about it, so my luck is back to normal

And no, I didn't use counterattack shielding...
I just shielded myself and when I felt an attack, I just counterattacked... it was a separate matter
But that time I knew I'll be under attack, so I was really prepared

Take care,
Alex

Human life is full of magic, one only needs to spot it.

[Tir13]

Hey everyone!  Interesting topic we have going here, huh.  Well, regarding shielding, it is my opinion that anyone practicing energy work at a competent level (i.e. a developed *stable* energy body and good control over energy both raising and manipulating) should utilize some sort of shielding.  There are many different paths to creating an effective "shield", and this is what I've found to work best.  During astral projection, stay on the astral plane and create a void/peaceful area where you can be alone, quite easy to do after you get the hang of it.  I would suggest that for a few weeks you continually store energy in crystals, stones, symbols, in astral "energy containers", what have you, to make the next part a heck of a lot easier.  In your "zone" access your energy reserves and manipulate it so it forms a circumference around you.  Feel free to make it as large/small strong/weak as you'd like, you'll know what feels natural.  Next, form 6 energy points - top, bottom, and four equally spaced on the 2-D circumference.  Connect the energy points with a few threads and start "smoothing" the energy over the "exo-skeleton" of your shield.  Start filling in the energy where it's depleted (hence the reserves are VERY useful), until you have a circular globe of energy surrounding you.  Now here is the neat part, which you should actually (before hand) sit down and mull over.  Ponder WHAT you want your shield to do?  Reflect energy? Absorb it to strengthen your shield?  Call down a guardian/arch angels/whatever to protect you?  Self cleaning/effecient?  Do you want it to cloak your energy so those sensitive to it cannot trace/feel you?  There is a LOT you can do.  An effective way of giving your shield "attributes" is to assign each trait to a glyph/symbol, or merely will the energy to do as you command.  It's hard to explain such abstraction but after everything is set up...the shielding usually begins to take care of itself.  Shields can also be effective in gathering energy (I mean lots) for whatever you're attempting, just make sure you bring it down, so you can release it.....Well, that's just my method of "shield creating", I'm sure there are many other ways but that's what I've experimented and found works best for me!

Later,
Jason

Next time - Astral Combat

[Blue Light Mystic]

Hi again Alex. sorry about all of the confusing posts, i've tried to eliminate that, but, i guess not! i've tried to include towards the beginning of each one who i was talking to, but, maybe since they're so long they're still confusing, sorry!

"(The variety of posts here is pretty confusing, so I'll just answer the one directed to me " Alex

"How did I know I was under attack..?
I felt strange, unexplanaible, unpleasant coldness, I had a headache, I felt significant energy draining and I somehow just knew I'm under attack...". Alex. yes, this is what i've also felt before, but very rarely though, and i'm quite thankful on that too! -smile-

"And yes - I know who he was, because actually I've started it...
I wanted to help someone who was under his attack all the time, so I send him a 'message'...  He attacked me the very same day...
Oh, and I remember that the next day I spend the night with my friends at their place, and everybody (except me) had the same dream - we were tied and someone was killing us in a brutal way...
And I think this attack was mild because it was sent from across the ocean (US to Europe)...". Alex. huh, that sure is strange! at least you were able to know who your attacker was! most of mine were non-physical for all i knew! i'm sure, though, that a lot of the times i had had some of the attacks, they were from people who were looking at me especially who i knew at work, school or college who were purposely directing negative energy and thoughts my way! i guess that thinking about someone in a harmful or negative way really can effect that person in a bad way! negative thoughts and energy has it's own power as positive thoughts and energy does too!

"I've never heard the term 'evil eye', but english is not my native language
But I know that there is something like that...". Alex. as i believe, giving someone the evil eye is whenever a person who doesn't quite like you looks at you with a nasty expression in their eyes and directs negative thoughts towards you. that's just my guess, and, if they do this with great intensity, this could cause one to get sick or ill soon afterwards! well, that's what my grandmother believes anyway, it may or may not really be true though, but who knows?

"Lately I've broke up with my girlfriend and I did it in a rather brutal way - she sure didn't like it...
For a few weeks my luck was gone - I realy think that was caused only by her bad thoughts about me...
Now she propably does't think about it, so my luck is back to normal ". Alex.

hey, sorry to hear about that, including your luck! why can't we just all get along? why do we have to have to date and be with so many others before we can just be with the right person? wouldn't this just eliminate heartbreaks? no, this world has to be quite harsh i guess. no offense man! i've broken a few hearts too, because the guys i was with didn't love me, even though i might've loved them! -smile- such as how this life is anyway, ho hum.

and, maybe she wasn't necessarily directing bad thoughts towards you and your luck for some reason just decided to stop itself. ah, but you never really know, maybe it was her bad feelings about the break up that were coming your way. break ups can really have quite strong emotions and feelings that are attached to them though, believe me, i know! -smile-

"And no, I didn't use counterattack shielding...
I just shielded myself and when I felt an attack, I just counterattacked... it was a separate matter
But that time I knew I'll be under attack, so I was really prepared ". Alex.

good going Alex! i think that if one tries to give out an attack, mentally toward a person, it's only right that we use a counterattack and let them get their bad vibes right on back to them! how dare people try to do such a thing, whether they know they are or not! i'm glad to hear that you knew about this and were prepared! i'm glad for you indeed! -smile-

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[RandomName]

Well here I am again! BLue Light Mystic, i appreciate the vote of confidence, but I didn't ACTUALLY succeed in projection. I simply found myself using a john in my front yard, and i just glanced at my hands, and i was lucid then. Oh BTW, the techniques iv given are taken from reading I have done based on Psionics and healing, which im fairly good at. Psionics=Psi=Me hehe. I have yet to conciously project. Wish me Luck! Ok, back to business

Another good technique for warding off intruders, and i know this one works, is to use your energy to create a flash of light, which sounds difficult, but if you FEEL yourself doing it, it will work. THis for some reason causes any negative energy to dissapear and probably any evil entities to run scared. It has to be a WARM light, pure and loving. Hope this helps. I want to hear some results!

[Blue Light Mystic]

Hi and welcome here Tir13, i.e., Jason. thanks for the compliment! -warm smile to you!-

"Hey everyone!  Interesting topic we have going here, huh." Tir13.  
"Well, regarding shielding, it is my opinion that anyone practicing energy work at a competent level (i.e. a developed *stable* energy body and good control over energy both raising and manipulating) should utilize some sort of shielding.  There are many different paths to creating an effective "shield", and this is what I've found to work best.  During astral projection, stay on the astral plane and create a void/peaceful area where you can be alone, quite easy to do after you get the hang of it.  I would suggest that for a few weeks you continually store energy in crystals, stones, symbols, in astral "energy containers", what have you, to make the next part a heck of a lot easier.  In your "zone" access your energy reserves and manipulate it so it forms a circumference around you.  Feel free to make it as large/small strong/weak as you'd like, you'll know what feels natural.  Next, form 6 energy points - top, bottom, and four equally spaced on the 2-D circumference.  Connect the energy points with a few threads and start "smoothing" the energy over the "exo-skeleton" of your shield.  Start filling in the energy where it's depleted (hence the reserves are VERY useful), until you have a circular globe of energy surrounding you.  Now here is the neat part, which you should actually (before hand) sit down and mull over.  Ponder WHAT you want your shield to do?  Reflect energy? Absorb it to strengthen your shield?  Call down a guardian/arch angels/whatever to protect you?  Self cleaning/effecient?  Do you want it to cloak your energy so those sensitive to it cannot trace/feel you?  There is a LOT you can do.  An effective way of giving your shield "attributes" is to assign each trait to a glyph/symbol, or merely will the energy to do as you command.  It's hard to explain such abstraction but after everything is set up...the shielding usually begins to take care of itself.  Shields can also be effective in gathering energy (I mean lots) for whatever you're attempting, just make sure you bring it down, so you can release it.....Well, that's just my method of "shield creating", I'm sure there are many other ways but that's what I've experimented and found works best for me!" Jason.

i really do like how you thought to come up with these ideas! i'm sure that they'd also work successfully, as, whatever one believes in, creates and imagines seems to work very well in the astral! wow, develop a way to store energy in crystal and other items within the astral. that really is a neat thing to do! and, then after doing so, later on use them when needed! i like that! the astral sure is a lot of fun! i mean, forget using virtual reality, as in being able to be inside of another more real body other than in virtual reality, we acutally are the body we're in and not just some artificially made up thing! so, in knowing all of this, whatever we desire to create or have within the astral whether it's made up out of our own imaginations and no matter how -abstact- of a thought in what we choose to create is, it can work! isn't that wonderful?

well, that's all for now. -smile-



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[Blue Light Mystic]

Hi all. just wanted to further include one of the main things that Robert Bruce has mentioned before that i really love using the most in regards to defense within the astral. remember when he talked about asking to be given one's own personal astral sword? i love this the most because this is really a cool way to defend oneself against who knows what while projecting into the astral! does this work? indeed it does! so, if you don't believe Robert or i, and you especially are a doubtful and more likely an advanced projector, then while you're exited out of your body, then ask for it and go and look for a monster or two and watch the results! i'm not saying to really do this, i'm just mostly suggesting to do this if you ever especially feel as though you may be in some sort of trouble with one, and maybe also consider using your personally given sword to help and defend or protect someone who they may be trying to harm as well.

those are just some of my other ideas on this. and, if one can be given their own defending sword while projecting within the astral, how about their matching armour and maybe even shield? now, that sure would be a more complete astral night! that sure is awesome, don't you think? yah, Robert came up with the most creative idea that i've always loved the most! thanks Robert, your ideas are really awesome!






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[Tir13]

Thanks Mystic for the compliment I appreciate it.  As for the astral combat, I would advise that people new to the astral realms focus more on escaping than actualy combat.  Escape = ripping a whole in time/energy, raising vibration (be wary, some WILL chase you), etc. whatever.  I say this because, many of the more destructive energies (not the cute lil relatively harmless astral wildlife, parasites, etc.) but neg. entities can be encountered every now and than.  You'd be suprised what exists out there..."Dark" Gods, Guardians, I could go on...and to be honest very few humans could even dream of fending them off much less destroying them.  Be careful.  Although, it IS a relatively small chance you will ever encounter said beings (it is my belief it depends on other "factors" I won't get into), but trust me - you'd be surprised what recognizes you, your energy, and life lines.  If novices feel the urge to practice on weaker "low energy" life forms, by all means...it's really up to you how you create your said weapon.  Doesn't even have to be a sword, be creative, but remain consistent!  There are a LOT of astral battle techniques out there, some of them very..."creative", and I'll write a separate post eventually discussing them.  On a side note, in *my* experience I have encountered high vibrational entities that weren't exactly very "nice".  Always remain alert...and watch for the undercurrents lest you be swept away.  LOL!  Night!

Jason

[Two Bears]

Hello Blue Light Mystic.

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And hi again to you as well Two Bears. -kind smile- yes, i agree that there are many many ways we can use to spiritually protect ourselves like you said. i was once taught how to burn and use sage whenever i
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Many many ways. I forgot to include the use of Frankinsence in the mid east works as well.

You can also talk them into leaving (light hypnosis). This is NOT recommended unless you have a stronger will than they do. I only do that when I do not have my tools with me.

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was quite young by a psychic who was probably taught by an Indian who lived within her area. i believe that it's called, smudging. thank
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You are correct. It is called smudging. Some indians smudge the children at night before bedtime to protect them from nightmares and night terrors.

However; smudging has been adopted in many new-age circles, and her teacher did not necessarily have to be of indian descent.

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you for including what you know here. i'm sure others who read this forum section are also thankful. so, yes, burning sage really does work! i've used it before as well. i've never heard of using grass to
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I have been around this stuff for more than 40 years. I began hearing the spirits at the age of 5, and seeing some VERY nasty spirits at the age of 6.

Yes; sage works well.

I said to use sweet grass to call in the good and helpful spirits. It is a specific type of grass.

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invite good spirits though! that sounds unusual! couldn't one just use flowers? -laugh- of course, one never really knows unless one
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Indians do not generaly pick flowers. They leave them where the Great Spirit planted them so they will grow, and plant the seeds so they can return next year.

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yes, using holy water of course, the good old fashioned Catholic way!
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Use whatever method works.

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Two Bears. what in the world is that? is that by using a poison arrow frog's skin excretion and putting it on the arrow and pointing it into a mirror? sorry, i don't know all that much about Feng Shui.
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Not that kind of arrow.

According to Feng Shui (I briefly studied three forms (form school, compass school, and black hat school).

The Black Hat school is the simplest form of the three. if you are interested in studying it; I highly recommend "Move Your Stuff Change Your life" Sorry; I do not recall the authors name as a place to start.

According to Feng Shui spirits can only walk in straight lines (the reason why most people believing in Feng Shui have curving driveways, and hang a pa kua mirror over their front door.

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yes, this is true too! in order for anything to work, seemingly, one must have faith and believe in something for it to work! yes, having doubt in it working is like saying, it's not going to work.
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Exactly! I am also fond of saying "It is impossible to have faith in something you don't believe". Hence the reason I turned my back on "christianity", and follow another path that amswers my spiritual  questions.

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Two Bears. well, what do you mean by this, telling the spirits where to get off? does that mean you wanted them to leave because they were bad and were bothering you? sometimes if i'm able to see something
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As I said above; I began seeing negative spirits at the age of 6. I told my guardians what was happening to me, and I was beaten for lying, and the minister did not believe me, and the doctor put me on centrax (a tranquilizer) at the age of six! When I was 11 my sunday school class was having a contest to see who could read further in the bible, and In my reading I found that passage, and the next time they paid me a visit; I turned on the light and read the marked passage, and told them that according the bible; I had power over them, so I told them to leave. I turned off the light, and went back to bed after doing my first exorcism at the age of 11 (35 years ago). After I got rid of the negative spirits making me a nervous wreck; I no longer needed the Centrax.

I prefer to reach an amicable solution with he spirits when I can; but sometimes; they are of such a low level of vibration; you don;t have a choice.

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Two Bears. this is kind of humorous! i like that! does get off mean leave though? -smile-
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Glad you like the analogy of the 800 pound Gorilla.

Yes; it means forcing the spirits to leave if you can not reach an amicable agreement with the spirits.

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thanks for sharing all of your tips on this subject! i'm sure others are thankful as well! -warm smile-
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I have been there and done that, and sharing techniques that I have learned that work.

Numerous people have E-mailed me based on my reviews, and people knowing that I do this kind of thing, and I have taught them via E-Mail, and many have done the simple ritual of  sage and medicine wheel and cleared their house. Cathy (one of those people) used sage she bought in the grocery store and burned it on a charcoal block, and used the medicine wheel. A few days later she sent me the nicest thank you note (which I have in my files), and she thanked me for giving her house back to her, and included it's as if a cloud has been lifted.

Another lady in Belgium (if memory serves) was being bothered by entities, and I taught her via E-Mail, and she cleared her house. and had been doing this work, and at last record, she has done four exorcisms.

Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[Two Bears]

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Well hello to you too Donni. -smile- are you and Two Bears Reiki masters? they sure are kind, giving and compassionate people! if you and Two Bears are, can you tell me what you Reiki colors are that you use? i know one and she uses yellow and was the last color she ever
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Hello Blue light Mystic:

Yes; do you have all day?

Here are my credentials.

HUNA practitioner
Karuna Reiki Master/Teacher
Magnussa Phoenix Reiki Grandmaster
Seichim Master
Seventh Facet Seichim Master
Shaman
Tibetan Reiki Master/Teacher
Usui Shiki Reiki Master/Teacher
Usui Shiki Ryoho Reiki Master/Teacher
Zhan Zhaung Qigong Master

All of that; and I continue to work on self mastery.

You asked about colors of the energy. the colors change based on mood. I usualy use blue, violet or gold.

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well, yes, i've also turned on the light at times too whenever i was hearing something scratching on my bedroom wall a few times near my closet doors while i was once living in an apartment! it would happen
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There are things that hide in closets. so be sure to smudge the closets too.

The talkshow host "Art Bell" has commented several times that he can not sleep in a room if the closet doors are open.

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stop! also, i talked to my roommates about this and found out that it might've just been coming from a little chipmunk that was living around our room outside, especially since we lived on the first floor! but, you really never know! it reaallllyyyy could've been something entirely different.......
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It was no chipmunk. Chipmunks sleep at night.

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were seen (and smelt) by my and a friend's very own eyes, wide awake, not astral sight."
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I won't ask you to describe the odor.

thanks for sharing your tips, especially the simple one, turning the lights on! -laugh and smile-

That works for many, but not all.

Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[Alex]

Hi Blue Light Mystic


>> huh, that sure is strange! at least you were able to know who your attacker was! most of mine were non-physical for all i knew! i'm sure, though, that a lot of the times i had had some of the attacks, they were from people who were looking at me especially who i knew at work, school or college who were purposely directing negative energy and thoughts my way! i guess that thinking about someone in a harmful or negative way really can effect that person in a bad way! negative thoughts and energy has it's own power as positive thoughts and energy does too! <<

I personally have the ability to make things happen by just thinking of them, so I know for sure that one is able to influence his and/or others' life(s) with his thoughts in almost any way...
Sometimes it scares me a bit, that I can do something 'bad' without intent...
Yet I'm trying to do only good things with this, but on the other hand - who know what I've done in my life and I'm not even aware of it....?
Hmm....


>> as i believe, giving someone the evil eye is whenever a person who doesn't quite like you looks at you with a nasty expression in their eyes and directs negative thoughts towards you. that's just my guess, and, if they do this with great intensity, this could cause one to get sick or ill soon afterwards! well, that's what my grandmother believes anyway, it may or may not really be true though, but who knows? <<

This can surely happen !
The power of human's mind is limitless, though I think people should have more control over it... I hope there will be more 'calm' times, when it would be something that happens occasionally and not all the time (like it is nowadays


>> hey, sorry to hear about that, including your luck! why can't we just all get along? why do we have to have to date and be with so many others before we can just be with the right person? wouldn't this just eliminate heartbreaks? no, this world has to be quite harsh i guess. no offense man! i've broken a few hearts too, because the guys i was with didn't love me, even though i might've loved them! -smile- such as how this life is anyway, ho hum. <<

This is a nice topic, but I guess it's not the place to elaborate on that
But just explaining my "brutal tactics" in this matter - it was her who was draining my of my sanity and after my harsh approach I finally felt free ;-P

>> and, maybe she wasn't necessarily directing bad thoughts towards you and your luck for some reason just decided to stop itself. ah, but you never really know, maybe it was her bad feelings about the break up that were coming your way. break ups can really have quite strong emotions and feelings that are attached to them though, believe me, i know! -smile- <<

My luck was never gone
I don't know how I earned this - maybe I've got great spiritual protection from the above, maybe I was/am doing great things in another incarnations..? I don't know...
But that time I really think it was her, because she hates me now....


>> good going Alex! i think that if one tries to give out an attack, mentally toward a person, it's only right that we use a counterattack and let them get their bad vibes right on back to them! how dare people try to do such a thing, whether they know they are or not! i'm glad to hear that you knew about this and were prepared! i'm glad for you indeed! -smile- <<

I'm glad you share my thinking...
It was nothing big, but a guy just did it for fun I guess...
But still I do not think I've stopped him from doing such things in the future...
I don't know if I can do this, but I know that I didn't want to do any harm - just to stop it for some time... )

May the Blue Light always shine upon you
Alex

Human life is full of magic, one only needs to spot it.

[Blue Light Mystic]

and hello again to you too Psi! sorry about the confidence thing i guess......well, i'm sure that you'll accomplish doing it someday! all of us has the capability to astral project, but we must not give up, 'cause that's not good. it's like saying, since i give up, i'm not ever going to try aping and this says, i won't ever astral project. don't think that way though, ok? i know how frustrating it can be, but keep persisting and you'll eventually do it! it's a skill that we must learn how to do, and like everything else in this physical as well as the spiritual worlds, learning how to do something new always can take some time. -smile-

anyway, i really like you name, it fits you quite well! Psi-Psionics i like that little pun! -smile-

thank you for the tip! i think that i've tried using a very bright but brief flash of white light once, and flashed it like a camera that had really bright flash into a neg's face whenever i was beginning to ap and it was too bright for him to handle. i lied there and saw his eyes widen and he backed off and probably left right afterwards! thanks! -warm smile-

"Another good technique for warding off intruders, and i know this one works, is to use your energy to create a flash of light, which sounds difficult, but if you FEEL yourself doing it, it will work. THis for some reason causes any negative energy to dissapear and probably any evil entities to run scared. It has to be a WARM light, pure and loving. Hope this helps. I want to hear some results!" Psi's quotes

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[Blue Light Mystic]

your very welcome Tir13. i enjoy dishing out positive comments to others. doing this makes me feel good as well! sometimes forums need more positive vibes on them anyway! i'm glad that this one is doing so well as well as Robert's new site! it's nice to see who's saying what without having to guess like in the other one...so, thank you forum moderators and website developers! -wink-

thanks for your further tips here! do you like role playing video games? i always have! that's what what you've said reminds me of! i think that it's kind of strange how similar video games and the astral planes are and how alike they are in regards to using different techniques that one could use to protect themself with! even though they're alike i guess, i'm sure that whatever we can creatively come up with to help protect ourself while aping, i'm sure it could very well work, and even more so according to how much mind power and energy we put into our belief in whatever we come up with to work for us.

a lot of times i just choose to escape while in the astral, especially if i'm in a situation where something or someone frightens me a lot and i can't move except for a few centimeters at a time. did you ever project and find yourself almost completely unable to move, especially if someone or some kind of lower astral being was hanging around you? this has actually happened to me at times, and it's so discouraging only being able to me a few centimeters and not really get anywhere! whenever this happens to me, like you said Tir13, it's best to just escape, and i just further accomplish doing that by waking back up into my body! -smile-

hmmm, sometimes i wonder if these nasties within the astral just use us for their fun and entertainment! they seem to like to toy with us, especially those who are novices and are just starting to try projecting out! at time whenever i was starting to learn how to project and attempt to, i'd see some nasties, and even heard laughing whenever they had successfully managed to scare the be jeebies out of me and some even had the nerve to push me back into my body with a very powerful force too that frightened me even more!

"You'd be suprised what exists out there..."Dark" Gods, Guardians, I could go on...and to be honest very few humans could even dream of fending them off much less destroying them." Tir13's quotes

hey, i'd also like to hear more of your creative techniques! i do like how you think! one of your ways that you had suggested worked for me! -warm smile-

"There are a LOT of astral battle techniques out there, some of them very..."creative", and I'll write a separate post eventually discussing them." Tir13

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[Winged_Wolf]

Oh, goody....this I'm looking forward to.  Psychic combat is my forte.

--Winged Wolf