12 noble gases?

sunshaker · December 11, 2012, 18:10:26

I have been thinking about noble gases and realise there must be twelve is this reasonning wrong?

ELEMENT ELECTRONS/SHELL ELECTRONS DIFFERENCE IN ELECTRONS between each gas
2
HELIUM 2 2
8
NEON 2,8 10
8
ARGON 2,8,8 18
18
KRYPTON 2,8,18,8 36
18
XENON 2,8,18,18,8 54
32
RADON 2,8,18,32,18,8 86
32
UNUNOCTIUM 2,8,18,32,32,18,8 118
18
8 2,8,18,32,32,18,18,8 136
18
9 2,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8 154
8
10 2,8,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8 162
8
11 2,8,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8,8 170
2
12 2,8,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8,8,2 172

Then notice the difference column, is the same as the final noble gas number 12
172 on the periodic table.(sunshakium)

It is all one,back to source.

Which means Noble gas 12, element 172 is the fabric of our universe.
As someone once said the last shall be the first.

http://alphaomegadotme.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/period-table-element-expanded11111.xls

mindflood · December 11, 2012, 22:43:55

A nucleaus with that many protons wouldnt exist

sunshaker · December 12, 2012, 10:51:21

These are electrons per shell, completes a cycle, element 12 fits between all these noble gases,
As is shown by the difference of electrons between each gas ADDS UP TO ELEMENT 12(SUNSHAKIUM).

Element 12, 172 periodic, is the first building block, it is everything, and everything is containned within.
Element 11 downwards is when our universe first began to expand,

Most of These elements will not be possible until next time around.

sunshaker · December 15, 2012, 04:53:42

Now i realise there are 189 elements,i have them all written down, but don't know how to do graphs online,
here is element 189, 2,8,8,8,18,18,32,32,18,18,8,8,8,3.
I now know the shape of our universe and how it all fits together. And what gives everything mass.
It is going to take me about aweek to finish modeling the universe, estimated time, 21,12,2012

Stillwater · December 15, 2012, 05:15:57

If it exists, it is purely in the technical sense, at least under conditions possible on earth.

Elements 113, 114, etc. technically exist, becuase they can be collided into existing for a billionth of a second or so, but they don't mean anything really, because they can't exist naturally, or be synthesized long enough for it to be meaningful, at least not yet.

They might exist in the twilight zone of physics in the vacuum between galaxies, or for short times in the core of stars before decaying to iron or some such, but that is about it.

But if you think a 12th Noble gas exists, then why not a 25th? why stop at 12?

sunshaker · December 15, 2012, 07:45:23

There is a key to work it all out and it stops at 12 noble gases,
It all fits together like a glove, i am in the process of getting someone to check my work.

Stillwater · December 16, 2012, 06:06:29

What key, beyond the ascending and descending symmetry in the chart?

To me a Noble gas would be anything with fully filled outer valence shells, so that it wasn't reactive.

Why would you think that that effect would stop with the chart's pattern, and no more could occur?

Being a Noble gas doesn't mean much when you get this high though, because the properties of a Noble gas are based on what its electrons do, or don't do in this case. When they synthesize these high number elements, they are generally collided nuclei, and so for their fleeting existence they have a random number of electrons associated with them, not their atomic number, which negates any Noble-gas-like behaviors they might have shown.

Szaxx · December 16, 2012, 08:46:04

Have a look at Occultium (1895) lighter than Helium (1863). Helium 3 too.
Any comments?

sunshaker · December 18, 2012, 07:43:47

Quote from: Szaxx on December 16, 2012, 08:46:04
Have a look at Occultium (1895) lighter than Helium (1863). Helium 3 too.
Any comments?

I had a read of occultium(1895), and was struck by how similar it marries what i have worked out,

everything is in everything, element 172 fits into element 172, meaning everything is inside this element.
2
HELIUM 2 2
8
NEON 2, 8 10
8
ARGON 2, 8, 8 18
18
KRYPTON 2, 8, 18, 8 36
18
XENON 2, 8, 18, 18, 8 54
32
RADON 2, 8, 18, 32, 18, 8 86
32
UNUNOCTIUM 2, 8, 18, 32, 32, 18, 8 118
18
8 2, 8, 18, 32, 32, 18, 18, 8 136
18
9 2, 8, 18, 18, 32, 32, 18, 18, 8 154
8
10 2, 8, 8, 18, 18, 32, 32, 18, 18, 8 162
8
11 2, 8, 8, 18, 18, 32, 32, 18, 18, 8, 8 170
2
12 2 8, 8, 18, 18, 32, 32, 18, 18, 8, 8, 2 172
8 2 2 8 8 18 18 32 32 18 18 8 8 2 2 8 8 18 18 32 32 18 18 8 8 2 2 8
I have worked out how these elements all fit together, how they fold (space/time),

Our universe(ELECTRON) started out as this element 172, As it expanded it pulls an electron from its nearest neighbour, resulting in hydrogen 1 electron, these hydrogen attach to then form 2 electrons helium etc,
You can carry this on with every element and you will see how it all folds together, it will give you the shape of our and all universes,
you will realise how we are all connected.
As our universe electron expands to its full limit it falls through to the next shell, as i mention in my alpha omega freefalling universes.
Each of these shells are the lower dimensional space i speak of.
Once you understand what and where you are the possibilities are endless,
If you look at anything you will realise it contains atoms=electrons= universes=you and everyone and everthing you know.
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE, A CURE FOR CANCER,IMMORTALITIY,LIMITLESS ENERGY.

AS SOMEONE ONCE SAID LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR

HE CONTAINS YOU AS YOU CONTAIN HIM,

IF YOU ADD YOUR BIRTHDATE TOGETHER YOU WILL KNOW THE ELEMENT YOU WAS BORN UNDER.

6 12 19 64= 101=MENDEIEVIUM=2 8 18 32 32 8 1

The strange thing is i can now take the elements to 189=2 8 8 8 18 18 32 32 18 18 8 8 8 3, when i learn to do graphs online i will show all the elements.

sunshaker · February 02, 2013, 09:08:26

THE ELECTRON UNIVERSE http://alphaomegadotme.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/period-table-element-expanded11111.xls

As in my other posts i believe our universe is expanding in lower dimensional space, i have tried to show this expansion through the elements,
everything expands within everything (noble gas 12)

Our universe s an electron expanding towards the next shell.

Bedeekin · February 02, 2013, 09:31:36

Where's 115?

That's what decays into 114 and releases gravity B

According to Bob Lazar.

newmethod · February 04, 2013, 09:37:25

Quote from: Bedeekin on February 02, 2013, 09:31:36
Where's 115?

The table above is showing group 18 of the periodic table along with the extension 8 (136) -12 (172)

Ununpentium is 115 and sits in group 15.

Not sure about Bob Lazar...

Bedeekin · February 04, 2013, 12:47:20

I am sure... don't worry... he's telling the truth.

I know it's called Ununpentium... I Googled it as well.

I haven't got a clue what all the above is actually meaning to tell you the truth... I just stuck my nose in about Robert because I couldn't find 115.

Mr. Brightside · February 27, 2013, 05:13:41

Oh, that's easy. The nobles gases come from certain sources.

1. Beans
2. Cabbage
3. Onions
4. Eggs
5. Cheese
6. Prunes
7. Potatoes
8. Asparagus
9. Artichokes
10. Brussel Sprouts
11. Dairy
12. Some wheat

Stillwater · February 28, 2013, 23:07:01

I guess you are a biologist rather than a chemist

sunshaker · March 01, 2013, 13:46:22

Quote from: Mr. Brightside on February 27, 2013, 05:13:41
Oh, that's easy. The nobles gases come from certain sources.

1. Beans
2. Cabbage
3. Onions
4. Eggs
5. Cheese
6. Prunes
7. Potatoes
8. Asparagus
9. Artichokes
10. Brussel Sprouts
11. Dairy
12. Some wheat

Food for thought. I will reasearch some of these instantly, with a nice cuppa.

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