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Did atlantis exist?

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Mick

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Originally posted by Meneleus


That's exactly the problem - people see it as a myth, a simple story from the past, and without physical (archeological) evidence it will always remain so.

The same goes for all these supposed advanced civilisations from long ago (outrageous that people are on about advanced cultures from 100,000 years ago!).  How can you claim something existed without physical, tangible proof?


A question that this whole genre raises for me is what does this 'knowledge' do for current humanity? There are the claims of great knowledge, spirituality etc but at the end of the day the various sources would have us believe that the power of the Atlantean knowledge was abused and that brought the curtain down.

A cynic might say 'What a surprise, humanity fails again, another blot on the human psyche' :)
I suppose it could be claimed that a target is being set for current humanity to aim for but will it all end in tears again :)
Mick

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

narfellus

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A question that this whole genre raises for me is what does this 'knowledge' do for current humanity? There are the claims of great knowledge, spirituality etc but at the end of the day the various sources would have us believe that the power of the Atlantean knowledge was abused and that brought the curtain down.



Here is my understanding of it:

At the height of Atlantis they had access to vast knowledge too soon and too easily. They did not appreciate their spiritual growth because they had to do very little to attain it. Some people had more than others, and the balance was not equal. The Veil that was set in place that keeps people from remembering their divinity when they are born was VERY weak. So eventually that civilization was torn down (sounds brutal, i agree), covered up by time, under the ocean and sand and rock, and a stronger Veil was set in place.

The history of Atlantis has VERY much to do with our current world and reincarnation because it serves as an example of what we can achieve through timely effort and cohesion and spiritual growth as a race. God didn't want a bunch of little gods walking around willy nilly with no idea of how they got there. He wanted us to go through the growing pains of figuring it out for ourselves and sharing it with others. God (who IS us) wants to go through the process of remembering WHO HE IS.

Another simpler way to look at it is this: If you were God and knew everything, what would you do for fun? He decided to let tiny pieces of himself forget how cool he is, and then have fun remembering again. over and over and over and over and over...

But that's just my two cents. to each his own. [8D]
If but we knew the power of our thoughts we would guard them more closely.

Mick

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Originally posted by narfellus


The history of Atlantis has VERY much to do with our current world and reincarnation because it serves as an example of what we can achieve through timely effort and cohesion and spiritual growth as a race. God didn't want a bunch of little gods walking around willy nilly with no idea of how they got there. He wanted us to go through the growing pains of figuring it out for ourselves and sharing it with others. God (who IS us) wants to go through the process of remembering WHO HE IS.


Here is a link to the Plato account plus some other info. http://www.auburn.edu/~downejm/sp/epsaas/epsaasPlato.html
This link draws some modern academic thinking into the possible sources for the Atlantis story. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/atlantis_01.shtml

I think that the spiritual component is a somewhat modern day addition which may or may not have a basis in fact. As such what role should it have in shaping current thinking and direction?

As you say, just my two pence worth :)

I would add from my reading the Greeks did have an interesting view of the other worlds in that they were described as being very much integrated with their physical view or perhaps better described as existing with a thin veil between one world and the next which I have always found an interesting concept :)
Mick

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

narfellus

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or perhaps better described as existing with a thin veil between one world and the next which I have always found an interesting concept :)


Yeah, i like that concept too. In the sense that everything is just a vibation of light, and we are overlayed every second by invisible sound waves, microwaves, radiowaves, etc, it's certainly plausible that hidden dimensions are all around.

God, there better be, if not, life in earth would just be so BORING if all there was to do is watch tv, sports and politics. bleh
If but we knew the power of our thoughts we would guard them more closely.

DrShaman

According to Cayces past life research, atlantis did exist.

But I have my doubts about this. My reasons for not believing this is that the only real source is Platon's text. According to that text
Athens was Atlantis enemy. If so Athens would be 13000 years old also, yet no traces of such an old civilisation can be found at Athens.

A gigantic floodwave came over the whole world and crushed Atlantis' and Athens' forces. No traces has been found of such a gigantic floodwave.

Atlantis was dominated by a huge capital city, situated on a plain with mountains around.  If this city was so huge, it should be easy to find.

I'd like to hear other peoples opinions about this.