What constitutes an "Energy Vampire"?

[roni]

I think there are two kinds at least: those who lean on others for life energy (directly) and those who use other people's emotions to get to their life energy. The first are "just" leaving one feeling drained (but alive) and the latter can literally beat you up spiritually. Most of them do that instinctively (they don't know  what they are doing, some probably think they have "unusual leadership talents" or the like).

Usually one has to let them in - via empathy or direct contact. If that doesn't happen they sometimes go for it and take it themselves - i.e. by suicide threats (forced empathy) or physical contact, violent or not, trespassing on another's space. It can be touching someone's arm. That happened to me last week. I avoided eye contact with the vampire, did not engage in anything other than polite and distant conversation and kept out of his space. Suddenly he approached me and touched my arm. That did it

[Lighthouse]

Might this have something to do with Love Addiction?  Needing the energies, attention of others to make you feel whole?  Thereby leaching their emotional and psychic energy without your knowledge (you the vamp) and having the victim of this vampirism feeling very emotionally and spiritually depleted?


Kerri

[roni]

Thanks! I'll order the book right away.

I really need it.

[Qryztufre]

Psychic Vampire:
- Pranic Vampire [Psychic vampirism]
  A Pranic Vampire is someone who feeds off of the 'life energies' of a person rather then blood. Purportedly a real psy-vamp has an energy deficiency, which is compensated via 'feeding' from other sources. The other sources are typically another humans life energies (Aura, emotional, or actual LIFE energies) though it is said that they can feed from animals, plants, and even the elements.

- Psy-leech [Psychic "leech"ism]
A Pay-leech is a normal person (one w/o an energy deficiency) that practices the techniques of a Pranic Vampire in order to 'get high' from the energies of a person, or to increase their own power at the expense of those around them. We are ALL Psy-leeches to one degree or another as with any magic there is a 'pulling of energies' while energy is 'universal' one must keep in mind that we are all part of the universe! A well practiced psy-leech can be dangerous as with some types of this magic (and/or psychic powers) the draining of their targets shielding is common (leaving most novice magickians UNPROTECTED for further attacks).

- Psy-vamp (laveyian) [Psychological vampirism]
The typical psy-vamp is not an energy feeder at all rather he/she is nothing more then an attention whore. According to the Satanic Bible these people are some of the lowest forms of life on the planet. They tend to be the people that say "If you love me you'll __<insert load of BS>__" or who surround themselves with weaker willed individuals in order to control and manipulate their lackeys with "charisma". Many Politicians seem to fall under this definition.
     
- Emotional Vampire
The emotional vampire I have separated from the normal Psy-vamp as they are actually quiet different. Most of these individuals are nothing more then co-dependants that need to go to 'group' more then what they have been. These people tend to 'attach' themselves to someone and seemingly feed off of their emotions. There is no actual feeding going on, other then an emotion draining caused by the stress that goes along with the mental disorder.

Q

[narfellus]

There are also incorporeal energy vampires, or leeches. Most of these are mindless and just feed on human emotion. Others are probably more sentient and cause fear and discord to gain more sustenance. There is a link between these things and actual living, breathing humans, with the traits of one often exhibited in another. Then again, there's still a lot i don't know. Delving too much tends to get crapola attracted to you.

[Rastus]

Whenever I go over to (insert name) I feel so drained...

Haven't we all heard this at one time or another?  From a friend, realative, or our own lips?

I once said to someone at a party (I had an impulse to say something, an urging, and at the time I was quite socially introverted) "You have such a strong Aura", they turned pale white and quickly left.  The party got much "brighter" and "better" afterward.  It took some digging to figure out why after the fact....  I personally wasn't affected, but I didn't envy the female 18-24 demographic group (the offender was an early 30'ish male).

If he had been more confident, I could have been in deep trouble.  At the time I would have gladly worked with any teacher.

[narfellus]

quote: Learn all you can, don't be afraid

I was thinking more along the lines of people who have little spiritual background, or even care, and learn to summon demons, manipulate spirits, dwell on negativity and invite it into their life as a quick means to power. THAT is delving into it too much, and will only cause terrible grief.

Just learning about how our universal really works is cool, and slightly complicated.

[Nita]

Hello Vojn
  I have discovered that most psychic or energy vampires are narcissists. It does not matter what techniques that they use because they vary. The key to it is to learn to shield.
       Nita

[Qryztufre]

quote:Originally posted by narfellus

There are also incorporeal energy vampires, or leeches. Most of these are mindless and just feed on human emotion. Others are probably more sentient and cause fear and discord to gain more sustenance. There is a link between these things and actual living, breathing humans, with the traits of one often exhibited in another. Then again, there's still a lot i don't know. Delving too much tends to get crapola attracted to you.

I did not add these to my list because I personally don't think they should be considered vampires...while they may do the same things that a human/living vamp would do does not mean they are the same. *shrug*

Then again, I've heard of human vamps 'feeding' through the astral plain...those I'm not sure what to call, but I think they would certainly qualify as "incorporeal vampires".

Q

[narfellus]

Isn't it mind boggling when we learn that myths and legends weren't so crazy after all? The world is full of unseen challenges...

[Rastus]

Interesting read, thank you.  

It sparks something I've read in fiction(or perhaps the author practiced some form of Metaphysics).  Suppose as a healer, I need to perform a healing.  Either because I'm exhausted, or the patient is very ill, I'm short on energy.  In theory, I can 'borrow' a little from other people and channel it?  Several willing people that are comfortable and relaxed and willing perhaps?  Reminds me of a christian prayer group.

Ethically I don't have a problem doing this, swiping a little energy won't hurt them.  Of course, I could make a mess if I try to take from someone that is messed up (ill/sick/negative).  So it would be neccessary to make sure the participants are well physically and spiritually.

Of course this is how group healings work, but people are actively giving.  I suppose someone with little training (or simply inexperienced enough), but willing and trusting could indeed help.  But then they could hurt if they resist or taint what I'm doing.  I read dozens of examples of this type of healing, but mostly in fictional works.  But then good fiction has some basis in fact.

I have done something similiar at church services before, take the energy and use it.  There can a physically/physchically palpable over-abundance of energy at a good church service.  And of course there can be zero energy at a bad church service, but I'm digressing.  I guess a church service is nothing more than High Ritual with people that don't understand the significance.....which brings up interesting possibilites for unscrupolous clergy, but thats another thread []

[Vojn Svetla Gorskog]

I've seen people post a lot about energy and psychic vampires. Are they both the same thing?
What is an easy way to identify these individuals? How does one tell if he is an energy/psychic vampire? Are these individuals vampires by will or by birth?

I got interested in this topic a few months back, and will definitely read more books on the subject.

Thank you to everyone that contributes, in advance!

Vojn Svetla Gorskog