batteries

[Mystic Cloud]

Batteries do charge by themselves if left for a while.
But I do think that it is possible to charge them
with pure mind-powah []

[Mistic-Idan]

Btteries are used for electricity energy and not Chi.
What you felt was a flow of chi in your hand that's all. You can't control the electricity in your body and sure not to charge a batterie with that cuz your body contains micro-amperes while a batterie contains amperes, so your body actually contains 1/1,000,000's units of a default electric unit.

[saraufo]

quote:Originally posted by Mistic-Idan

Btteries are used for electricity energy and not Chi.
What you felt was a flow of chi in your hand that's all. You can't control the electricity in your body and sure not to charge a batterie with that cuz your body contains micro-amperes while a batterie contains amperes, so your body actually contains 1/1,000,000's units of a default electric unit.

Despite your answer, I really DID control that electricity and I charged those batteries. I don´t need somebody to tell me that what happened did not happen. I would be happy to get an explanation to what REALLY happened. Sorry to oppose to your fine theory.

[wh1z3_azz]

Some guys power up lightbulbs with their bare hands, while other make hot qi-balls that is over 100 degrees. It is all manipulation of Qi. Im a little sceptic in your case. Even if might be possible to recharge a battery it is more "advanced" than a lightbulb. The battery contains chemicals that reacts with each other and creates chemical energy...

How Batteries Work:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/battery1.htm

Why do batteries seem to go dead and then come back to life if you let them rest?
http://science.howstuffworks.com/question390.htm

[saraufo]

Thanks for the answer, but you seem to think that I let my batteries rest, which was not the case. It was like this: I was listening to some music when the batteries in my walkman got tired (they got totally empty). I took them out and held them in my hands. After that, my walkman directly worked again for several hours. When it stopped working again (because of empty batteries), my hands felt strange and I did the same thing to the batteries. When they got tired once more, I thought that I might be able to re-load them just by  holding my finger on the play-button, and did so until the tingeling sensation stopped. Then, after having worked for hours again, the batteries got tired and I felt a bit confused about the whole thing. I asked my best friend to try to press the buttons on the "dead" walkman. She pressed them all with no result, the lamp didn´t even shine. Then I tried, after just having held my finger on "play" for a while. It worked again. Both me and my friend were kind of shocked but it really happened!

[Mystic Cloud]

Sounds nice and I believe you totally []
Next time I run out of batteries I'll try this out surely...

I think light bulbs are a bit different. Atleast for myself.
I find it harder to 'turn on something' from an off state than
to recharge or make something more intense. Don't know
why this feels like it. MAybe just another subconscious
belief matter.

[saraufo]

Good luck! I hope you will succeed.

[ady]

You can recharge batteries by holding them in your hands, because heat catalizes the elektrochemical reaction in it thereby prolonging its life. It might be possible to generate heat with Chi... But I would doubt that your biological current source is responsible for that (unless of course you can "light-up" the bulbs).
Try hitting batteries against the wall: works as well

[Moonburn33]

although i can be unsure as to your particular situation, allow me to present my own hypothesis (theory).

i have observed that chi occurs in greater concentrations when there is a greater intensity of physical energy.  ergo, i believe that chi is what comes "before" energy. therefore putting chi into the battery would, in essence, "recharge" the chemical energy in the battery.

[saraufo]

quote:Originally posted by ady

You can recharge batteries by holding them in your hands, because heat catalizes the elektrochemical reaction in it thereby prolonging its life. It might be possible to generate heat with Chi... But I would doubt that your biological current source is responsible for that (unless of course you can "light-up" the bulbs).
Try hitting batteries against the wall: works as well

I held them with my thumb and fingertip, did not heat them. And later, I didn´t hold them at all, as I explained above. It was really strange. I will try to hit some against the wall as you suggested! Sounds great! Why don´t people do that all the time instead of bying new ones?? [:O]

[Rastus]

If you pour 20 liters of HOT water over a car battery that will not start a car on a very cold day, it will heat the battery enough to start the car.  A Car battery at -40 C has something like 1/4 the energy of the same battery at 80 C.

Try the same experiment, but drop you batteries in very hot (95 degree C) for 30 seconds then try them again.  You will find they are "recharged" when in fact they aren't.  All you have done is change a coefficient(temperature) in the chemical equation that describes a battery.

To truly recharge the battery, you have to apply physical energy and break chemical bonds.  To truly prove they are "recharged" you have to a load versus time test (measure the voltage and current over time), to see how much they have "recharged".

[t49]

saraufo:
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Reality just ain't what it used to be.[]
Thanks for sharing.
Tom

[Moonburn33]

i don't think that holding a battery by one's fingertips would increase the temperature of the battery enough to create the chemical reaction necessary to electricity

[saraufo]

quote:Originally posted by Moonburn33

i don't think that holding a battery by one's fingertips would increase the temperature of the battery enough to create the chemical reaction necessary to electricity

Me neither. In that case I think my fingers would have gone black as coal or at least red like lobsters. They didn´t. Nevertheless the batteries re-loaded by me holding them. How I hunger to meet someone who have experienced the same! I don´t know what to think or how to continue with this experience.

[saraufo]

quote:Originally posted by t49

saraufo:
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Reality just ain't what it used to be.[]
Thanks for sharing.
Tom

Thanks for replying![]

[Seven]

saraufo:

Yes it can be done, I've done it myself.  I held the batteries at either end between thumb & forefinger so did not warm them at all.

I did this with two things; the batteries in my clock and in a remote control.  I felt the energy going into them, but then when they were full they appear to have given me energy back, multiplied by about 100!  It was a bit like being zapped by an electrical shock.  After doing the remote control I could feel the energy coming through it just by holding the unit.

However, I'm not sure if I'll do it again.  I don't know if it's safe.  Also, what are the repercussions of someone else holding these items and thereby drawing energy that you have put into them?  From what I have read, if you store energy in items you should not let others handle them as it could have side-effects on them somehow... I'm not 100% sure about this though.  Also, the ethical side... Would this count as using energy to manipulate things for your own gain?  Could this invoke the threefold law?  Again, I don't know the answer to this.

So, at least for now, I shan't be doing it again.

But I agree with you, it works. []

[darkheaven]

i will sure try this, hmmm must consume some batteries

Seven read a post of Deam0n in here somewhere, hmmm it's someone else post bu he speaks about giving energy to plants (how i can tell what is negative energy...or something like that) or others thing and they give u back a lot more.

i will try this for sure...

one big lol

[saraufo]

quote:Originally posted by Seven

saraufo:

Yes it can be done, I've done it myself.  I held the batteries at either end between thumb & forefinger so did not warm them at all.

I did this with two things; the batteries in my clock and in a remote control.  I felt the energy going into them, but then when they were full they appear to have given me energy back, multiplied by about 100!  It was a bit like being zapped by an electrical shock.  After doing the remote control I could feel the energy coming through it just by holding the unit.

However, I'm not sure if I'll do it again.  I don't know if it's safe.  Also, what are the repercussions of someone else holding these items and thereby drawing energy that you have put into them?  From what I have read, if you store energy in items you should not let others handle them as it could have side-effects on them somehow... I'm not 100% sure about this though.  Also, the ethical side... Would this count as using energy to manipulate things for your own gain?  Could this invoke the threefold law?  Again, I don't know the answer to this.

So, at least for now, I shan't be doing it again.

But I agree with you, it works. []

[saraufo]

Seven:
Its so good to know that this has happened to someone else! I´ve asked myself the same questions that you have, except for this one about if others could be able to steal your energy through the batteries. Do you think that they´re linked to you after re-loading? I don´t. At least I don´t want it to be that way.

A question: Did this by any chance happen to you after being in contact with some kind of UFO? I´m serious.

And thank you for just being there!!!

[Seven]

saraufo:

I don't see it as someone "stealing" your energy through the batteries; I have a concern that my energy could have a negative effect on other people.  As I am working on developing my energy I will have higher levels of energy than someone who is not, and this can be harmful (too powerful) for people whose energy bodies are not developed.  As well as this, everyone has negative energy within them and this could also pass through the object to the other person.  In other words, my energy might not be compatible with theirs and could have a negative effect on them.

Yes I do think that when you have charged something with energy it is somehow linked to you.  Have you ever touched something, perhaps a second-hand item of jewellery or clothing, that you have had a "good" or "bad" feeling about?  This is what I'm talking about: The person's energy may not be compatible with yours.  Also, if you have stored energy in an item for your future use (not batteries!), if someone else touches it it then becomes less powerful for you as it is no longer pure, i.e. your own energy; it has become tainted by someone else's energy.

Having said all that, all of us are sharing energy every day, both positive and negative, through our interactions with others.

I have never (to my knowledge!) been in contact with any UFOs or aliens.

[]

[saraufo]

This is indeed a strange world. I would like to know more about energy! My battery-experience occured after me wishing to re-load them and for some reason I knew it would work. This happened shortly after a UFO-thing.

My english is kind of stumbling. Frustrates me, hope it is understandable despite this...

[saraufo]

And thanks for your answer Seven! Very interesting. Puzzling.

[t49]

quote:Originally posted by saraufo

 This happened shortly after a UFO-thing.

come on tell us more  ...  please!

quote: My english is kind of stumbling. Frustrates me, hope it is understandable despite this...  

... ain't nuttin' wrong wit yer english. better 'n mine,and it's the only language I know.

Tom

[Krevency]

I'm not trying to be nit-picky here.

It's good to be skeptical.  Always good.  But all skepticism I've read in these posts seem to ignore things that have already been said.  My girlfriend does this, and so does my dad.  

The question is:
hypothetically, IF this person's batteries ran out and IF the person held onto them for a little bit, or even held the play button, with the intention of recharging the batteries, and feeling tingling and IF the batteries did actually work for HOURS afterwards, THEN what could be causing that?  If it doesn't fulfill those ifs, it's not worth posting.  If you think that any part of what saraufo is saying is a lie, just say that.  Please don't act like you know enough about qui, or chi or whatever you want to call it, to say that this cannot happen.

I feel that psychic energy may be equal to other types of energy.  Meaning that psychic energy could be converted to heat energy, to motion, to light, under the right circumstances.

It could also be possible that something similar to telekinesis is going on here, where saraufo is unwittingly changing the chemical substance of the batteries, back to a charged state.

IMHO you shouldn't just say, "There's not enough electricity in your body to power this."  Nobody ever said it was electricity from her body that was powering it.  And, boy, if it was that easy to give a battery so much power with a little heat, the battery companies would go out of business.  "Oh, my batteries ran out.  I guess I'll put 'em in my pants pocket for a minute."

Of course, saraufo could be making up, or exaggerating the story.  How many consecutive times did you listen to your walkman for many hours, while your friend sat by and waited for the batteries to run out?  I give saraufo the benefit of the doubt, though.

In the scientific community, when someone finds a phenomenon that goes against what people believe in, the people shoot it down like a duck.  This is not the kind of behavior I like to see in a community about mysticism, about a subject which NOBODY ON THIS EARTH (IMHO) is an expert on.  

Even the EXTREMELY knowledgeable Robert Bruce, or late Robert Monroe (Roberts abound!) are not theoretical physicists.  Neither of them could tell me how spiritual energy might fit in with string theory, or relativity.

Relativity is a hundred years old now, and widely studied by thousands, and we still haven't pinned all of its implications.  And here we are, learning about something that is still largely a misunderstood subject, saying, "That is not so!"

I apologize.  I don't mean to offend anybody.  I just get fired up sometimes.[:I]  

I'm gonna try the battery thing myself, but I don't know if I'm up to snuff.[8D]

[saraufo]

Krevency - thank you thank you thank you!

And as an answer to this:
"Of course, saraufo could be making up, or exaggerating the story.": I am NOT making up and I am NOT exaggerating the story!
Hope you believe me.

And thanks again for your words!