some questions about oobe

[Adrian]

Greetings cesm23,

Many people quite literally try too hard when practicing Astral projection and OBE, both of which are natural abilities. Long and difficult techniques are not necessary for success, and has nothing directly to do with kundalini, although higher energy levels can be useful.

Astral projection and OBE are all about maintaining your focus away from your physical body, while your physical body goes to sleep, it is as simple as that. An excellent way to do this is by using visualisation. As you lie in bed before sleep, visualize a favourite place, person, situation etc. in as much detail as possible, and engage all of your senses in the imagination, touch, taste, smell, hearing as well as the visualization. As you drift off to sleep you can then reach the projection stage which might be the vibrations as a prelude to OBE, or you might phase directly into the Astral.

You can also make use of the fact that we all project every single night during sleep. This occurs because the energy body moves out of phase with the physical body in order to recharge the physical body through the chakra system of the energy body; this is why we wake up feeling refreshed and charged with energy. The subconscious mind is extremely powerful, and in fact represents about 90% of the total mind. The subconscious can be programmed to carry out almost any task in the higher worlds or relating to your will. We can make use of this by programming the subconscious mind to wake you up as soon as the natural projection has occured, normally resulting in waking during the vibration stage, at which point the OBE can be controlled in the normal way. To program the subconsious mind we can use affirmations expressed in the presnt tense while drifting off to sleep. For example "I now leave my body" or "I leave my body with full awareness" or "I remain aware as my body goes to sleep". These can be repeated in your mind as you go to sleep, ideally while you actually drift off to sleep. Ideally you should repeat the affirmation at least 50 times each night and be totally committed to it. It mighty take a month or two to see results. Better still, take a notebook with you to bed and write down the affirmation 50 times; writing anythng dowm imppresses it on the subconcious in a very powerful way.

Astral projection is different in that it involves a projection of consciousness directly to the Astral body which then becomes the centre of consciousness. Again, this is best performed just before going to sleep when you can create a whole scenario in your imagination as vividly as possible, and which then becomes real Astral experience. You can also focus on your third eye, the brow chakra as your body drifts off to sleep, and this will result in several stages of consciousness resulting in hypnagogic imagery and eventually Astral projection.

There are many effecive methods detailed in the Permanant Astral Topics forum. The important thing to remember always is that these are natural abilities and not somthing which should be made unecessarily complex with all sorts of excercises which just leads to frustration. Use natural abilities and everything else will follow. Like everything however this requires a long term commitment.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Adrian]

Greetings Runlola,

My pleasure []

We should all keep in mind that we are eternal Spirits, aspects of the Great Spirit, The First Cause, God, and therefore we have no limitations. Any limitations that people percieve they have are as a direct result of creating those limitations for themselves, largely as a result of long term indoctrination from birth.

We are all create our own realities, but most people, not understanding that, create realities that they are not satisfied with. We are all here to learn and grow as we evolve back to The First Cause, we never chose to spend time here to work and be a slave to money and material things, but rather to evolve. We are human beings not human doings []

In terms of Astral projection and OBE, many books make it look difficult, mystical etc., and something that requires alot of work and effort when in fact it is a natural ability that is being blocked by these false perceptions; i.e. create the reality that it is difficult and it will be.

Like everything it does require commitment and a genuine will to achieve, but with those all that is necessary is to make use of natural processes in the way I describe above.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[cesm23]

1. When we try to do a oobe or astral projection, will this try to activate the kundalini and is that (the kundalini arousal) required to a oobe or astral projection be sucessfull ?
2. How do i relax my eyes and let them fall asleep? I am UNABLE to stop being aware of them, and i am even almost unable to stop "trying to see" with them and move them all the time even with closed eyelids. How exactly do i practise to fix this ?
3. When trying to project, just the action of trying to be aware of any part of the body will prevent the astral projection ? Or it's the moving of any part of the body that prevents the astral projection ?