Eyes and things.

[Stillwater]

As the eye thing is unfortunately beyond your will, as you say, I suppose it would be difficult to remedy; however I would suggest a slight amount of concentration focused upon the region of the lids, similar in form to that of the touching of the fingers or thumbs during meditation. If it is too distracting, perhpas you can allow the concentration to slowly ease, until it is no longer necessary.

As for the humming, it might well be a side-effect of what most here call "vibrations", which serve as the infamous harold to an OBE's imminense.

Thank you,
Stillwater

[Rastus]

What you describe sounds like chakra stimulation.  Poking your third eye, so to speak, and getting a respnce on your navel and plexus chakras.  I recommend a good book on chakras (local library) for a little more understanding on how your astral body deals with energy.

Having your third eye open is all well and good, but if your heart Chakra is closed, your not going anywhere more than about 2 feet, you'll be stuck at the heart.

Good effort.  Concentrate on energy building and getting all your chakras open.  You also want to work on deep meditation and relaxation.  These are actually seperate excercises, but very related.

[Rileyboy]

Hey cool, i'll get reading on it. Y'know all this ap stuff is pretty damn exciting, especially as i've only been doing this for about..2 weeks now. I hope the progress stays up.

Oh yeah, Rastus man, I think you're right. Cause just lately i've been feeling some like..pressure and even a bit of pain on my heart. Like a weight. But it aches badly.

Anyway, thanks again!

[Rastus]

Ummmmm, it shouldn't hurt.

More like a heavy pressure?  Maybe a weight is on your chest?

Typical sensations I have/do feel are:

The bottom 2 chakras: Sexual or bodily functions, sometimes a tightening

Plexus:  Change in breathing pattern, heaviness in breathing, need to deeply inhale, fealing of filling on inhaliation

Heart:  Weight on chest, labor to breath, taking really deep breaths to fill

Throat:  Almost a choking sensation when opening it, feeling that energy can flow out with your breath

Third Eye:  Disorientation, bluring regular vision, no regular vision, a tingleing behind the eyes

Crown:  Disorientation, vertigo, ringing in the ears, numbness in extremities.  The crown is the biggest and can take some time to fill/open.


These sensations aren't unique, you may feel some of them or none at all.  I'm trying to show you that when doing Chakra work, you can get some interesting sensations as you try and open them.

And of course, as you open each subsequent chakra, you have to remember to keep all the prior ones open.  Think of it as juggling:  first you start with 1 ball, then 2, then 3(which is of course the first time you are 'truly' juggling) all the way up to 7.  Got a sticky one?  Keep working on it until you feel it opening.  Don't be afraid to start over from the bottom.  Your time frame can be anywhere from 30 minutes bottom to top to 2 seconds (don't try that, it takes a lot of practice, and you want a lot of energy available to do it, but it gives you some idea of how quickly someone can go metaphysical, so to speak)

[Dream Cadet]

Rileyboy,

quote:Anyway, when i totally tense..then relax my body a few times, then 'see beyond the darkness' type thing, my eyes slowly open!

I had this problem early on.  I went and purchased a sleep mask because of a porch light coming through my window.  I noticed when wearing the mask, if my eyes opened slightly to total darkness, it didn't bother me. I got to the point that I didn't notice if my eyes were open a little but.  My eyes dry out if I leave them in a slightly open position and then I have to focus on them to blink.  You might give it a try.

D.c.

[Rileyboy]

Alrighty, yeah cool. Thanks to Dream Cadet and Stillwater too for replying. All info has helped. And cheers again to you Rastus. I'm thinking of buying that book, the Dynamics of A.P or something like that? S'worth getting I think.

Thanks agai- oh yeah i had a thought.

Hypothetical question,

Say me and a mate had been doing ap for say...30 years now and we were great at it. Like, could do it whenever. Say we done it in the same room and projected at the same time. Now we'd see each other, right? Could we talk or communicate in anyway? What would we feel like too?

heh, i had this really cool dream the other day about me and my best mate just projecting man. And we just like, travelled around doing stuff.

[Stillwater]

It is possible- Robert Bruce recounts one of his apprentices projecting for the first time after a session of trials, and, as he was sitting in hyper-awareness of reality on several levels, he saw the young man float by.

I have also heard of a several sets of close individuals who projected and were eventually greeted by one another on the other side, though it isn't always that easy; if that is your goal, however, more power to you, as it certainly appears to viable.

Goodluck!

Thank you,
Stillwater

[Rileyboy]

Hey all,

This Astral Projection stuff is pretty cool, heheh.

Anyway, I've had a few problems.

I think i've got my third eye going on the way well. I can like..squeeze above my eyes and i see a while flash and things..S'kinda weird but cool man.

Anyway, when i totally tense..then relax my body a few times, then 'see beyond the darkness' type thing, my eyes slowly open! Whats up with that? It totally puts me off and i feel kinda disappointed or something. Its like, beyond my will though. I dunno how they just open like that on their own.

I once clenched them really tight and of course that didn't work, cause i was too busy tensing my physical body.

Also, when i clenched really tight and squeezed around the third eye really hard i felt like..something above or below where my belly button was, but deeper in my body of course. It grew more intense as i squeezed more and my whole body felt all funny, hehe. I kept it up but i just got so exausted i had to stop.

Any suggestions?

BTW - Am i getting close? A few nights ago i heard this well loud HUMMM noise. It made me jump so i snapped outta the trance straight away unfortunately . And last night i like, felt so light, and my head titlted up and it felt like my fingers were bent right back, but they weren't, cause i could just feel them - the physical fingers of course.

Anyway, any comments or whatever would be nice []