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[Rastus]

Greetings, and welcome a very eclectic website.

Your groundwork sounds good.  Might you be in possesion of a hexed talisman?  Your descriptions match what I would expect of a physcial device in your immediate area.  Something you have kept over the years?  The sharpness of your reversals just feels that way to me.

Have you cleansed and warded your home?  6 months of study is probably enough experience to do this adequately.  It would not work against a hexed talisman in your home.  I'm not sure if your proficient enough to find the device if it exists.

I would encourage you to seek an experienced practioner for physical help.  Perhaps a local group?  I would be very careful, in that your reversal doesn't go off and put you in contact with a malevalnet group.

[Rastus]

I did some meditation and had more insight.  Let me share something.

I did a money ritual once, and I got fired a week later.

Later in life I did another and got fired 3 weeks later.

Later in life I did a ritual to "get out of debt".  Yeppers, I got fired 4 weeks later, was unemployed for 5 months, then filed for bankrupcy.

In every case I got exactly what I was casting for

Every job payed more.  I'm out of debt in 3-4 months.  These rituals(high rituals actually) confirmed my belief in energy manipulation(well, and a few more high rituals)!!

My question for you:  Were you careless with energy in the past?

[clarelhdm]

Hi Rastus,
Thanks for the welcome. I usually chat more, but found myelf in the middle of this thing so started on quite an intense note.[]

Your groundwork sounds good.  Might you be in possesion of a hexed talisman?  Your descriptions match what I would expect of a physcial device in your immediate area.  Something you have kept over the years?  The sharpness of your reversals just feels that way to me.

Not that I know of. The reversal have taken place on and off over at least 20 years, though they have been more intense over the last 10 years or so. I had one talisman about 15 years ago, but I did destroy that about 12 years ago.

Have you cleansed and warded your home?  6 months of study is probably enough experience to do this adequately.  It would not work against a hexed talisman in your home.  I'm not sure if your proficient enough to find the device if it exists.

I have done some simple cleansing of this home, but this pattern has occurred even when I lived in many other places, and even when I moved overseas. I have very few possessions that I have had for more than a few years, so I am unsure of what it might be.

I would encourage you to seek an experienced practioner for physical help.  Perhaps a local group?  I would be very careful, in that your reversal doesn't go off and put you in contact with a malevalnet group.
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Well spotted. that is usually what happens. There is noone local that I have been able to consult, though I am not really strongly connected in Pagan circles. I did speak to someone about this, but they didn't seem to have the knowledge or experience to really do anything about it, though did accept it at face value and offer me support. I have learnt to be really careful who I disclose this to for a few reasons....even talking about it at times seems to intensify the energies and people very quickly assume that it is something I am doing or not doing (deep subconscious stuff etc etc) and they put me on the rack of their own particular technique, while refusing to really look at the evidence. Hence me writing to this forum [] An unfortunate effct of this pattern is that it tends to seperate me from people, in that my life experience is soooo different from there's...after people know me for a while they can see clearly that I definitely apply myself to things, am not naive or stupid or self-destructive, and yet the usual results don't happen. I think it scares a lot of people too, they begin to think the bad -luck will rub off, or they just get bored of my latest disaster, understandably I guess. Suffice to say, cook-book solutions don't work for me, and I can be a bit of a wet blanket when people enthusiastically embrace some new way of looking at their life.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Clare

[clarelhdm]

Hi again,

thanks for the energy ....

quote:Originally posted by Rastus

I did some meditation and had more insight.  Let me share something.

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In every case I got exactly what I was casting for

Every job payed more.  I'm out of debt in 3-4 months.  These rituals(high rituals actually) confirmed my belief in energy manipulation(well, and a few more high rituals)!!

My question for you:  Were you careless with energy in the past?


Not that I know of....I have lived a very sober life in most respects...was very religious in my teenage (trying to sort this stuff out even then) and then left that and soon after studied Astrology very seriously, and have practicised that for some 20 years. My only notion is that this energy was passed down to me from my father, who was a very strange man. (can elaborate if you like)

certainly I try to make the best of what happens after these reversals, but often things are just lost, and hard fought gains have to be struggled for all over again. In my experience it hasn't been 'each job paid better'...rather now taking whatever I can get to keep the mortgage paid while I look around for escape plan no 7847...
and this scenario certainly doesn't fit my quals and experience at this point...an that is just in the job ara of my life

Anyhow my Libran self wants to assure you that I am not some self-pitying depressive, and despite this reversal pattern I have learnt to enjoy life and hold strongly onto the pleasures that I have...good walks, trees, sunshine, my lovely dog. Just wanting to end on an up note[:I]

see ya,

Clare

[pod3]

Start sorting out who is on your side, allowing no excuses. Next time, be more abrupt from the beginning.

Mind control is an interesting, metaphysical study as it applies to day-to-day-life. For instance, if your health is drained, it will be evident that someone is manipulating you emotionally to the detriment of your heart chakra.

Overstimulation of your chakras (which is  not balanced to your emotions) is typically demonic, and it will happen arround people completely ignorant about the occult. (Think about it.)

I have found that just a few of the weirder social theories are true and that some basic ones are not. Things will start to come together in a comprehensible way.

[Mystic Cloud]

Try getting a clear connection to your Higher self.
You can always depend on it for help. Doing meditations
just concentrating on this aspect will help.
You may also try self-suggestions while going to sleep.

If you want I could provide some information on the background
of this.

[clarelhdm]

Hi Pod,
thanks for replying to my question, I have been away for a week so I only got your post yesterday.

quote:Originally posted by pod3

Start sorting out who is on your side, allowing no excuses. Next time, be more abrupt from the beginning.

I did try to do this...but someone I trusted, who I DID think was on my side, changed sides, if you get my drift...
As this was work related, I couldn't really be 'abrupt'...I was not in a position to 'call the shots'



I have found that just a few of the weirder social theories are true and that some basic ones are not. Things will start to come together in a comprehensible way.

Would you care to expand on what you mean here? Thanks for your time,

Clare

[clarelhdm]

Dear Mystic Cloud,
thanks for your advice. I have been away for a week, so I haven't replied earlier.

quote:Originally posted by Mystic Cloud

Try getting a clear connection to your Higher self.
You can always depend on it for help. Doing meditations
just concentrating on this aspect will help.
You may also try self-suggestions while going to sleep.

If you want I could provide some information on the background
of this.

I would like any backgroud you care to supply! I have trouble with these concepts as they bring up relgious issues for me....most often as well, these reversals come after I have actually followed what I thought was HS advice..ie. a dream, a gut feeling, a sense of 'knowing'...so when the reversal happens, I also have to contend with the confusing of having followed what I thought was the 'right ' path, and the consequences of then discovering the door closed etc. Thanks for your time,

Clare

[boydster]

Clare,

You don't happen to have a relative or someone close to you who is somewhat controlling and/or who communicates a lot with you do you? I've noticed that effects such as you describe are sometimes the result of a jealous/controlling person who places their attention on you very frequently. It can set up a vortex around the object of their attention which outpictures the intents and desires of the unhelpful one.

I acknowledge what Rastus mentions about it being a hexed talisman. I personally know a woman who has suffered terribly in this life as a result of a curse placed upon her by a powerful black magician numerous lifetimes ago. But somehow I get the feeling as though your troubles have more to do with a live person who is placing his/her attention on you in a jealous way, denying you happiness.

Or, as Runlola says, it could be within yourself; a self perpetuating string of unhappy events which you've unconsciously magnetized to yourself. It can't hurt to work at transmuting your past unhappy life episodes using forgiveness therapy, of which there is abundant description and instruction to be had for free. This will have the double effect of freeing you if you yourself are the magnet, or else it will serve to make you more impervious to outside attacks as well (outside attackers generally need a point of vulnerability within you in order to effect a change in your life).

One thing you seem to need is to build a momentum of victory. And of course it's tough if you've been stomped on over and over. Try to build a momentum of victory and self determination by consistently  celebrating small victories. This will allow you to eventually build up to complete self determination, having mastered utterly your immediate environment and destiny. If you find yourself recoiling from this idea because you think your celebration might "jinx" things, then I believe that it's probable that you are at least partly the cause of the condition.

[clarelhdm]

Hi Runlola,

I don't think it is something hidden inside me. I have done many years of deep therapy, until the cure was almost worse than the disease[], but I really feel I have a strong, positive sense of myself, and have always believed in myself. It just seems that others don't share my opinion (sometimes in extreme ways), and I don't seem to attract opportunities that can significantly change my life situation...I certainly have the effort and determination, but so often the 'x' factor of luck, or timing doesn't come together.

Thanks for your comments.

Clare

quote:Originally posted by runlola





Sounds like something hidden inside you manifesting.
There could be some past life karma repeating itself.
Find the negative belief inside yourself that is causing this.
Focus on your first chakra when you ask.

[clarelhdm]

Hi boydster,
thanks for answering, I'm in between your lines (don't yet know how to stop the text from shrinking [])

quote:Originally posted by boydster

Clare,

You don't happen to have a relative or someone close to you who is somewhat controlling and/or who communicates a lot with you do you?

Well, I did...my family was a pretty negative set up, and I have cut off contact with them, because, despite years of trying, the relationships were very negative and controlling. I don't have any contact with them anymore...they certainly may be saying things about me, but it's not to my face

I've noticed that effects such as you describe are sometimes the result of a jealous/controlling person who places their attention on you very frequently. It can set up a vortex around the object of their attention which outpictures the intents and desires of the unhelpful one.

There was a strong connection between myself and my father, who died when I was 16. I know that this negative energy was something he carried. But I have tried all sorts of spiritual healings, cleansings etc as well as lots of therapies, to break this bond if it is still operating, to no avail.

I acknowledge what Rastus mentions about it being a hexed talisman. I personally know a woman who has suffered terribly in this life as a result of a curse placed upon her by a powerful black magician numerous lifetimes ago. But somehow I get the feeling as though your troubles have more to do with a live person who is placing his/her attention on you in a jealous way, denying you happiness.

I wish I knew. I have felt that there was some kind of family curse...it fits my experiencs and other events that have happened, but I don't like to give it too much power..I try just to live positively and I do actually almost forget about the past misfortunes when I start on a new adventure...the reversals are always a terrible shock when they come


Or, as Runlola says, it could be within yourself; a self perpetuating string of unhappy events which you've unconsciously magnetized to yourself. It can't hurt to work at transmuting your past unhappy life episodes using forgiveness therapy, of which there is abundant description and instruction to be had for free. This will have the double effect of freeing you if you yourself are the magnet, or else it will serve to make you more impervious to outside attacks as well (outside attackers generally need a point of vulnerability within you in order to effect a change in your life).

One thing you seem to need is to build a momentum of victory. And of course it's tough if you've been stomped on over and over. Try to build a momentum of victory and self determination by consistently  celebrating small victories. This will allow you to eventually build up to complete self determination, having mastered utterly your immediate environment and destiny. If you find yourself recoiling from this idea because you think your celebration might "jinx" things, then I believe that it's probable that you are at least partly the cause of the condition.

Actually, not at all. I have found that the most effective thing, at least in maintaining a positive feeling in myself, is to give thanks for what I do have...and believe me I do, often and regularly, otherwise I would have given up long ago. It is hard to write about this to people who don't know me and , naturally, will assume I lack self awareness, or am deluded, or am avoiding big issues, but I assure you that that is not the case.
The forgivness thing is a good point. Unfortunately a lot of my close family relationships were so bad that all I could do was remove myself from them. Each time I tried to reestablish something, moving on from what had been, the same negativity resulted, and I just felt that all I could do was go my own way. I wish there was a more tangible way of making some peace, but I haven't been able to find it. Thanks for bearing with me here.

Clare

[boydster]

Clare,

I just want to say one more thing. That is, in my experience, a strong, positive will and indomitable persistence will overcome. I think that an inspired person can overcome their own bad karma, astrology, curses, etc.....anything.

Have you tried treasure mapping? It's a great way to focus your subconscious in a powerful, positive way. I've benefited greatly in my life from it.

[clarelhdm]

Runlola and Boydster,
thank you both...these comments really make sense. Runlola, I think you are close to the truth here, I will try to focus on finding the right healer who could help me with it. Boydster, what the hell is 'treasure mapping' (apart from long holidays on big ships etc etc)? cheers,

Clare

quote:Originally posted by boydster

Clare,

I just want to say one more thing. That is, in my experience, a strong, positive will and indomitable persistence will overcome. I think that an inspired person can overcome their own bad karma, astrology, curses, etc.....anything.

Have you tried treasure mapping? It's a great way to focus your subconscious in a powerful, positive way. I've benefited greatly in my life from it.

[clarelhdm]

Hi, I am a new member here and need some assistance. I am happy for people to email me off-forum if preferred.
I have a recurring pattern in my life of major reversals. Often a situation I find myself in, one that has required a great deal of energy but which appeared to promise a real change or breakthough will reverse for no logical reason, and without warning. Most often the agents of these reversal are people who are virtually unknown to me, or with whom I have had little contact. They are often people in authority, or professional people. Sometimes they are caused by random events. The result of the reversal is that I make much less progress in life than I should, and am constantly being beaten down by very difficult circumstances. Also there is a severe shock physically, emotionally and psychically when it happens.
I experienced many shocks as a child, one in particular has the same flavour and life damaging quality as the recurrences. The cause of that particular incident appears in part to have been the negligence of a professional person, and a relative, to do what was necessary and provide protection for me. As it was I was exposed to great danger and intense negative energy at the time. I believe I was protected in part during this event by some sort of angelic being (I held a Christian belief at the time, and this is how I understood this).

I have tried for many years to break this pattern, through intense analysis, dream work, some meditation, all to no avail. I believe I am quite self aware, and not naive in terms of my environment or people, but the attacks come often from unknown quarters, and appear as random bad-luck or injustice to those who know me.
About six months ago I started studying magic, with a hope I would be able to more understand what was going on and shift the energy around me. I have been doing regular banishing rituals (LBPR) and energy rituals (Middle Pillar), whilst waiting for the current impasse in my life to shift. Things had recently stared to improve a bit, gaining some employment (though not ideal, at least relieving financial difficulties) and giving me some breathing space to try and tackle the more complicated issues/decisions I am trying to sort out. I was hopeful that the new protective work was starting to take effect.
However, yesterday I experienced another complete reversal. It came without warning, orchestrated by someone I had not met before, and included betrayals by people I trusted. I am just starting to feel grounded from the physical shock, but I am aware that what I have been doing seems to have been inadequate in terms of changing this pattern. I would appreciate any insights as to what this may be about, and what I could perhaps do to change it. I will give more details off-forum.

Thank you,

Clare