I almost had an OBE!!!!(In some pain, help!!!!)

[michael]

Well DA I have had many many OBE's and thankfully have never had the sypmptoms you describe.There is something not quite right with you suffering all that pain.For what it is worth i am sure you are very close to having your first OBE which usually for most people is quite a terrifying thing..eg when i was 17 over 37 years ago i had my foirst OBE...when I found myself floating above my physical body i looked down at it and went as you Americans would say"ape excrement" and shouted to myself "Get back! get back!"..and I did...but after that initital fear no problem..keep doing the pre sleep meditation.energy body charging and good luck..you are not far from your first ecstatic experience.

[Rastus]

You have all the symptoms of a panic attack.

Your tensing up, which won't work.  You have to relax, litterally, both physically and mentally.  Think limp, not tense.

[TheDarkApprentice]

I acutally think I had a partial OBE for 3 seconds. When I was attempting this OBE, I was lying in my bed and it was about 3 AM so it was totally Dark. When my eyelids started to open involuntairlym I acutally saw my room and it was in a bluish color. I was trying to close my eyes but they kept lifting up. Right before this happened, it became more white behind my eyelids then they started to lift up. I don't know what happened, when they were lifting up, I just imagined my self walking in my room but I failed.

I tried this OBE about 20 hours ago and I still have the symptoms that I had after I failed to OBE. Every time I inhale it hurts and there is constant pain in my Chest. My voice is higher and my neck hurts. I felt my neck and it felt like there might be a bone that was cracked or somthing. It also hurts to swallow.

Now, are these really syptoms of a panic attack or did I really hurt myself trying to OBE?? Is this normal and has this happened to any of you.

[TheDarkApprentice]

Rastus you were right. I did have a panic attack.

I looked up the symptoms and causes of a panic attack and I definitly fit their description. I guess one of the ways you can have a panic attack other than a near deat experience or overwhelming stress, is by meditation and self absorbition. They said these things can trigger the trance state which I was in. Unfortunetly I might still carry out some of the symptoms I recieved unless I get medication or somthing.

I am guessing that a Panic attack is a type of involuntarily OBE where it can happen randomly or can be triggered by fear or stress. I guess I paniced a little bit and didn't even realize it.

Have any of you had a panic attack while trying to have an OBE? If so, when did you try another OBE attempt and how long did your stymptems last if you had any?

Thank you

[Rastus]

It's not uncommon to OBE, 'see' yourself, then panic and get pulled back in.  Medication won't help, it's nigh impossible to project on klonipin,  you can't focus well enuugh.

Read my lips (are you old enough for that joke?) Relax

You are tensing up, I should know, I still do it sometimes.  You should be limp as overdone spaghetti.  If you throat is sore and your neck as well, then you were stiff with Rictus.  You can't OBE that way.  You can't do much of anything but exhaust yourself.

Try controlling the panic by not going all the way (no puns intended).  You can OBE, and not actually go anywhere.  Maybe just an arm, or just 'sit up'.  Baby steps.  Its not something you can force at your stage of development.  

Work on your Astral Vision instead.  Tell yourself your not going to attempt to project, just meditate down to vibes or so and work on "seeing".  After some time you will become comfortable at this stage, and you can gradually slip deeper.

[TheDarkApprentice]

Ratus: Yes I understand but still can't relax. Thanks for the advice.

The reason that I'm still shoken up about having a panic attack while attempting an OBE is the fact that I still have the symptoms from when I attempted an OBE. IT's been 2 days since this has happened and my neck is still cracking when I feel it, I hear cracking sounds in my ear, it still hurts some when I inhale, and my chest hurts. The pain has subsided a bit but I still have about 75% of the Symptoms. You can understand while that I can't relax all that well if all this is happening. I was just wondering if this is normal and when these symptoms would go away so I could attempt to have an OBE again.

Its weird though, I think I had my 5 second Obe while having this panic attack. When I was in the final stage of the trance, I imagined myself floating out of my body and climbing the rope and the vibrations got harder and harder and my chest was in pain. I thought this was part of the process so thats why I continued.

Also, when I had the OBE, there first became a whitening to my vision under my closed eyelids then it became so I could see my room in a light blue color. Now is this normal as well?? I am not sure if my panic attack during my OBE caused this or this is part of a strobe effect or somthing.

One more question, I read some where that I may be experiencing an opening of my Kundalini with the werid cracking feeling to my neck and ears and the blue light during my OBE. Is this accurate??

(BTW..... I've only been practing to OBE for a month so I am sorry if I irritate you with stupid questiongs?)

[Rastus]

Blue lights are okay.  White mist is fine.

It is possible to rip muscles and tendons from being tense.  So yes, you can hurt yourself from a panic attack.  I don't think your having a Kundalini moment.  The neck cracking is from tensing your muscles, think of it like a sports injury, it can take over a week to recover (less with bio-energy work).

You can't force things like that.  I don't know waht to tell you.  You need to meditate, and not work on NEW.  You need to reflect on why your panicking, address the issue from within yourself.  Trying to project in your current state of mind is useless.  Even if you manage to get out, you won't stay out, you'll jump right back in from fear.  You need to build your confidense some with other aspects of metaphysics before trying to OBE again, in my opinion.

[TheDarkApprentice]

You are right Ratus I do need to meditate more. I have been to focused in NEW and trying to accomplish an OBE. I guess I will experience a full OBE when I'm ready but I definitly need to prepare myself better for nex time.

[TheDarkApprentice]

I just amost accomplished an OBE and am estatic that I got to this point but dissapointed that I was almost there and couldn't get out. Heres what happened.

I was in the paralysis state that I have been in the last few times I've tried to have an OBE and the Vibratioins were more forceful than I ever had expected. Instead of just heavy vibrations, my chest was pounding rapidly and I got barley breathe. The pain was unbearable but kept trying because I was almost there. The problem was that every time I inhaled or exhaled the pain would become even more unbarable to my chest and throat area and would loose my concentration. I was in this state for I think about 20 minutes and almost got "out of my body".

The whole time this was happening my hands were literaly lifted off the ground and I was sweating profusely. I got to one point where my vision became whiter and my eyelids were started to lift involuntarily and i was trying to keep them up. But I couldn't breathe very well at all. I tried to slow down my breathing, but everytime I was almost "out" the pain in my chest got more painful and I guess my body couldn't take it.

I am excited I got this for because I haven't got to this step yet and am one step closer to achieving my goal. I was very close

When my attempt was done, I was soaking with sweat and my bed was literaly soaked. I just tried this OBE 30 minutes ago and I still have a pain in my chest and my thorat and it is still hard to breathe.

Now I am wondering, are all these reactions normal??? Was I almost there??? And have any of you experienced the same difficulties that I faced??

Damn, I was almost there