hypnogogic images?

[Selski]

Ganamoha

It sounds like you've gone a long way in such a short time - well done!

You are very close to OBEing in my opinion.  However, a good idea would be to get used to this feeling of not being able to feel your body.  The images will fade.  I had the exact same feeling as you describe, only last night.  I posted it, if you want to read it, here is the link:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13872

I think your next step would be to relax with this feeling and just wait until you know you are ready to be out of body.  As you find it hard to describe what was happening to you, I cannot possibly describe how you know that you are ready to get out - you JUST KNOW.

The fact that you opened your eyes (I am assuming these were your astral eyes and not your physical eyes), means you are 80% there!!  (See my post).

I suggest to try and reach the same stage and get used to it/bored of it until such time that you think, "hang on, I'm floating about above my real body here, what the hell is going on?!" at which point, you will probably zap back to your physical body because of all the excitement and emotion you feel.  But - that will be your first OBE!

Don't be confused - enjoy the sensations you are having - don't rush too much for an OBE, it will come sooner the less you yearn for it.

Good luck and please feel free to ask any questions.  I'm not an expert, but I know where you're coming from, and I think you're very close.

Sarah

[GANAMOHA]

thank you! thank you a lot that explained alot for me there and yes it was my astral eyes (third eye?)then its weird because the first time it happened (not anymore) i thought my eyes really were open so then i opened them lol. but meditating has helped me alot because i meditate everynight i can before i go to sleep (in which i try to obe everynight)

[funinfloating111]

good job in getting to that state, especially in such a short amount of time. you seem describe exactly where i am, it took me a little longer though. so i guess if your almost there, im almost there. good luck!

[GANAMOHA]

thank you but i have another question about these images have you ever tryed to pull yourself into these images ive tried once but it made it fade away faster so i was curious have other people tyied this, were they sucessfull, and what happened afterward?

[funinfloating111]

i have actually pulled myself into the images, but not from a waking state. i think they just fade unless you get into a deeper state, or focus in monroes theory. it happens too me after i awake from a dream, then i go to the "astral screen" effect. its really detailed and much different than the normal hypnogogic stuff. and then you just kinda float into the picture, its really cool, but ive only had that happen twice, and both without me willing it.

[GANAMOHA]

i did it again yeaaa! but this tiime it felt and seemed differnt from the other times

usally when it happens it just doea but this time ive figured out how to induce it which i think is quite comon instead of waiting for it but anyways  usally i go into the state were i lose the awareness of my body then like a sudden shock or zing i leave it really quick and its really frustrating but i figured out how to stay in that mode as i call it last night and then i got an image through my astral eyes but this time it was downstairs and looked real and i felt the carpet too which was odd and it lasted for awhile longer thatusal but i got excited and it stopped now i just want to ask was this advanced hynogogic images or was it like an obe
note:i didnt try to move when i saw the image i was in it but should i have tryed to move?

[Rastus]

Once your body goes numb (remember, mind awake, body asleep), you are pretty much there.

What I've had great success with is AP phasing.  That is, in the state your in, project a mental image and phase into it.  The old "Alice through the looking glass" manuver.  I've found it easier than OBE.  Now whether it's true AP, or just distance viewing is hard to say for generic images, but I usually AP.  I generally have the best luck with the most recent vivid images, which is usually a movie.  Warning:  Be real careful with certain movies, like say Aliens 2 (or last weekends fiasco, playing Doom3 for 4 hours!!!) or you may AP into a very nasty place.

A lot of times I'm out for 10-30 seconds, back in shift, back out.  Like an old fashion slide show.  My difficulty is staying undisturbed while doing it.

[T_Kman0610]

Yes, it seems to me you were very close to OBE/AP. Thank you for the info everyone who replied. I have learned a little now. The phasing into an image sounds cool. I will have to give it a try.

[GANAMOHA]

hey everybody
ive been praticing trance and tryin to project my self for about two weeks know which i realize is still only a short period of time but anyway for the past two days ive been experiencing every once and a while i get the vibrations except ive gotten use to them so they dont feel intense anymore then i get numb and i see this perfectly clear image and its the clearest thing ive ever seen and their all random but when i see them their only there for about 10 seconds and it fades away but when it happenes im aware but unawware at the same time like im aware of myself as in im not thinking but more of just being slient in mind ugrrrr (sorry but this is just really frustrating to try to explainbut what it is is like i dont feel my body at all unless i concentrate on it but then i get no where so i feel nothing and im quite relaxed then its like i opened my eyes but its not my room)please explain whats happening im very confused[?] and how close was i to obe ing