is this the end?

[funinfloating111]

sorry i forgot too add. right before, when i got into trance finnaly, my third eye felt so strange. it felt like the nose of an elephant seal or probascis monkey. like a big flap of skin. it went down towards my upper nose.

[Rastus]

Doesn't sound like Kundalini to me, but I'm no expert on the subject.

It sounds like several things to me, none of which I can narrow down without a better read (sorry, I can't link from an Internet post).  

Try a natural test, go outside and turn the garden hose, and lay out 10 feet.  Step over the hose, walk around the end the waters coming on and get your feet wet doing it, keep going back to where you started the step back over it.  Repeat.  Basically your doing a circle with the hose mostly going across it(only crossing the hose once each complete circuit.  I'd say counterclockwise to have a 'lessening' effect.  This will hinder a NEG but not harm anything benevelant(good).

[funinfloating111]

thanks for the reply and im sure your right, it just cant be kundalini. but many of the things in the sticky post about kundalini were remarkably similar, mostly the part about a mild face concussion, a bright camera flash in your minds eye, then sudden feeling of not having a skunn (thats what i tried to mean when i said i felt like i was only a brain lol) and most importantly the "snake effect" thats exactly what it felt like a very painful snake pushing its way up. it moved slow, and i freaked out and stopped the process only after whatever it was moved about 4 inches up. every time it moved it took my breath away, it was so strange. i do no that whatever it was is going to come back tonight and im not too sure about the hose thing sorry. im not sure what im supposed to be doing. im just worried because it scared me and if, for some strange reason, it was the beginning of kundalini ive read about what bad things can happen. i have also read about the good that can come from it. if anybody gets the chance i would be so happy if they could post a link about something with similar symptoms, because thats probably what it is.

[Naiad780]

Actually, it does sound like Kundalini to me, based on what I have read.  But as Rastus states, I am no expert either so get second opinions!

However, it's clear that these sensations are stressful and scary.  Of course they are upsetting when you are young and don't have much training or experience yet.  Maybe you should take a break from energy work for a few weeks and see if that calms the sensations.

If you asked your higher self for help and he responded, perhaps you could ask him for help in dealing with this, too.  Explain that you are confused and would like to go a bit slower while you gather information.

Keep us posted!

[funinfloating111]

yea im worried, ive been doing some research on what the signs of a kundalini awakening are, and sadly i have been having about 9/10 of them in the past week. i know its gonna come back when i lay down to go too sleep, i can feel it waiting... but then i think maybe its part of some big plan, maybe im supposed to just surrender to the energy and let it rise. its so hard to tell, good things can come from it, transformation and stuff, but is it worth the risk of having it bring negative effects? i wasnt trying to rush any enlightenment, nor was i foolishly trying to awaken it, it just did. that seems to make me think its supposed to happen, like fate maybe. if i did go through with it and good things did come from it, would it change who i am? im quite happy with who i am today, and i have goals in the physical that i dont want to get interupted. o sorry im rambling...

[Awakening]

well, if mister bruce's words on kundalini are right, this is dead on kundalini! good for you! im 17 and ready for it, at least im getting there...anywho read the little article on kundalini in this energy forum. it almost sounds like too direct a translation like you took it straight from it, but if youre not b.s.-in it sounds like kundalini...according to master bruce that is.
hope that helps! not that im not much help myself, im in the same boat as you, minor energy skills and a splash of empath here and there. good for you though, it takes most people YEARS to get exactly where you were..

indigo children, anyone?

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
    fun, i dont want to discourage you, but...please send out prayers for someone who can help you stabilize yourself during this period.  continued human touch and contact are especially important...
 send out those energetic feelers for someone or something that can help you ground...a very wise man from India once told me of kundalini, (which i have awakened and work with everyday).... quote "you have to grab a snake by the head or the tail.  if you try to grab its middle you will get bitten."

what i took this to mean is that either you have to be very very grounded in whatever practice you have(being around people, doing everyday things, ie-carry water, chop wood kind of stuff); or become very devoted to serving whatever your idea of God may be.

[Seven]

It sounds like what I've read about kundalini too.  Perhaps you could ask for help/advice from some people on these forums who've experienced it, perhaps via PM or email.  Try reading some previous posts & you'll find who you need to contact; I'm sure they'll be happy to help []

[Chimerae]

What a wonderful and practical exercise, Rastus.  Wish I had heard of it a decade ago.

[Chimerae]

Do you know any good astrologers?
It's just a weird weird time right now.  It seems to me that there are "things that bite" in the ether.  They're wearing me out and dragging me down -- but because of so many years on this road I know that's not necessarily a bad thing.    

I come from different patterns and traditions than are covered in this forum, so take what I have to offer and leave the rest.  It sounds like you're in good company here for your journey.

I don't think you would have been drawn to push through the limits you experienced on your practice unless this was an appropriate initiation for you.

1. I know that there are normal age entries for initiations, but for good or ill many experience all sorts inititiation far ahead of their balanced readiness.  I have no idea if what you've picked up is a kundlini experience.  There are other energy forms that will step in and make themselves adaptable to whatever you're looking for.  I don't think it can possibly be "bad" for you given the parameters you put on your invitation.  

2. Will it hurt you?  Probably.  It already has -- you described the pain of the experience and your fear reaction.  Neither of those are a bad thing -- both could be decribed as "resistance"  

This would seem to be a test point -- you asked for help from your higher self and you got a response.  It might be most helpful to have faith that asking, you received what was appropriate.  If this is kundlini and you are younger than you "should" be, then you really need the deeper partnership with your higher self to manage the intricacies.  If it's NOT kundalini, then you need the partnership with your higher self to address what it is.  I don't feel that this is malevolent -- possibly the entity could be ignorant and a little selfish but not necessarily -- but if it's one bit less than a perfect match for you, then you need a deepened partnership with your higher self.  

Either way, as long as you pass the "gut check" that's inevitiable at the beginning of any initiation, sounds like this will end with greater partnership with your higher self.  That's a GOOD THING and specifically what you requested.

3. if it IS dangourus too me and you feel i should avoid it how do i do it? even now as i sit and type this post i can feel it waiting for me to relax. i dont want to be assumed by you people that im foolish or something like that, maybe i am, but i never tried to induce such powerful sensations, they just came from somewhere else.

Messing around with this stuff is dangerous.  So is crossing the street, watching TV, eating at MacDonald's, and driving a car, and living on the planet . . .  

I don't think you CAN avoid it altho it's possible to con yourself into thinking you have.

There's nothing wrong with being a fool.  "Beginner's mind" for buddhists or "The Fool" archetypes are the best jumping off spots for new experience.  Congratulations.

4. should i continue any energy work at all?
With awake and aware consciousness and an open mind.

Just my opinion, of course.

Chimerae

   

[funinfloating111]

thanks for all the responses, however im glad to say that it is gone, at least for the meantime. i told my self (kind of in a prayer) that i do want to raise kundalini, just not now. i need more time, and it seems like thats what i got, i feel exactly normal, or at least as normal as i did before the kundalini thing [] i spent a lot of time doing normal everyday things, like a lot of manuel labor and stuff, i stopped all energy work because it was painful just after the incedent. it would feel like a person "inside" myself would push with an endless effort against my physical boundries untill i was so exauhsted. i could barely stay awake and my head ached. yesterday i started energy work again and its going fine, as long as i dont work too much on the root chakra, or il feel tension building. its like a potential difference that, when great enough, will push straight through my head. so for the meantime i spend as little time as possible there for now. as shadowdance said, about grabbing the snake by the head or the tail, i can really relate too. (apart from astral projection and energy work herptology is a major hobbie of mine) it makes a lot of since, and i definantly cant devote myself too god lol, there is WAY too much stuff going on now. i hope this chance will come back when im ready, ive always told my self (or higher self maybe) that i would like to one day raise kundalini, but i really dont want it to interfere with my life at the moment, and if i did raise it, and it did have positive effects, it WOULD change me, like robert bruce said a cocoon into a butterfly. well i dont really wanna be a butterfly yet, so im just gonna live for now, trying too be a good person, until i am ready to change...

[funinfloating111]

hello again, i came across a problem. it is quite serious i believe and im not quite sure what to think of it so i thought id post. it started when i was trying to get into a trance but it wasnt working too good. it had taken me much longer to get into a relaxed state but the wierd thing was my whole body was kind of pulsing in rythem to my heart. i did finnaly hit trance but it felt different, like i could feel two bodies in one, and i could move them simultaneously, but the one inside could never leave the physical one. it was a wierd sensation but not as strange as what was too come. after that it got wierd. it felt like something came up and "bit" the area between my legs (not the genitalia but the area directly between the anus and the genitalia) im sorry if its kinda graphic but im telling it as true as i can [xx(] after that i felt like everything dissapered except my brain, and my spine, down to my rear end. my arms and legs got really numb. i felt a huge rush of energy and i was seeing bright flashes of light. then whatever i felt between my legs started moving, pushing what was in my body away, as it slowly, inch by inch, made its way up. it was very painful it was not an energy sensation i swear it felt like something was in my body. then i remember reading how dangourus this could be and tried to force it out. this did not work, however, so i got up and moved around. im terribly confused and worried. this sounds, from what i know, as kundalini. that is ridiculous though because robert bruce said you have to be around 30, and im only 16! also i hear its quite difficult and, although i learn this stuff pretty fast, im am by NO means good yet. if it is what i fear it is i wonder why me? its so confusing, mostly because its so powerful and so rare. so my question for you is

1. what do you suppose happend? is there any other energy sensations similar, just too a lesser degree?
2. will it hurt me? i mean i have trouble believing it will trully harm me because it feels like it comes with a purpose, and about 2 minutes before it happend i asked my higher self for some help. do you think he responded?
3. if it IS dangourus too me and you feel i should avoid it how do i do it? even now as i sit and type this post i can feel it waiting for me to relax. i dont want to be assumed by you people that im foolish or something like that, maybe i am, but i never tried to induce such powerful sensations, they just came from somewhere else.
4. should i continue any energy work at all?

im sorry for having to post so many questions but, to be honest, im scared. i would like so much to know more about what is going on to me!