trance state

[shadow_xca]

Well... I too have this delema. So i would be very interested to get some feeback on your post too...Maybe if we try doing energy raising techniques(i dont know just a thought)                                                     Paul

[ralphm]

the only way i have gotten past this is to allow myself to fall asleep and then i would eperience the buzzing while still mostly asleep and then exit. i only started to try it conciously after experiencing the vibations while sleeping, so maybe i have some natural tendency for this.maybe you should try more energy practices because the vibrations would come naturally after i did chakra clearing if i awoke in the middle of the night.

[fredhedd]

i have been trying for a while now to get into a deep or even a full trance state. i don't think im  getting past the light trance stage. if i try very hard i can do the whole falling feeling thing and it makes my heart race faster and i get a slight over all body buzz but as soon as i stop straining to stay there it goes away.  also i cant get to that stage w/out some physical movement, like tensing up my stomach muscles the slightest bit so i think i m doing it wrong.i've read the book and am sure i m doing everything correct. any help to get to the vibratory stage would be great. thnx