Different Techniques for developing "Energy"!

[Lynfer]

I suggest you make a psiball full of white healing energy and send it to the spot the neg is. Energy from the earth works best on physical body.

  Another way to remove negative enrgy is by doing daily energy work and raising it. []

[travelinbob]

A traditional method for neg removal is garlic. Yeah I know sounds goofy but it works. Our Host R. Bruce mentions this on this website as well as his books.

Another I have used is just to tell them to f&"% off while in trance or in lucid dreams. One time after months of realistic nightmares I became lucid in the dream and denied the entities' reality. I immidiately stopped having the dreams. Of course they could have been only dreams, but I do have reason to believe that I was being attacked. At the time I was having problems with a person I knew had been involved in black magic at one time.

Another one I heard of is just being aware that you are under attack and denying the entities influence over you cuts there power.

hope this helps

[neg removal5]

Hey Travelinbob

    You are probably right about the garlic.  I do believe that garlic can probably remove some negs, but only slightly weaken other strong negs.  However, I believe garlic affects all negs to a certain degree no matter how strong the negs are or aren't.
    I do not agree with you on your second comment though.  If you remember in the Bible which has very accurate descriptions of some possessions.  Those people in some of those situations could have tried to deny the existence of the negs that were possessing them, but it would have been to no avail.  If it hadn't been for Jesus ability to deal with certain strong "negs" many of those people would have probably never gotten free, as many of the techniques being learned by people today to remove them were not known back then.  They could have tried to deny the existence of the neg that was possessing them, but that would have probably made their situation worse, as all the torment in their mind would have still been there, all the negs attempts to cast them into the fire or water to drown them would have still been there.  The negs ability sometime in certain situations to take over their body would have still been there.  Their best chance was to acknowledge their problem, and acknowledge the reality that they were fighting a neg, and then to seek every possible way to try to find a way to get it off of them, using whatever techniques were available to them at that time, and to even try to find new techniques if the situation called for it.  Only in situations where the neg is not actually attached to a person, could a person then possibly benefit by denying that there are any negs in his immediate surrounding that are trying to attack him externally. Even if there were negs external to him in the spiritual realm, by just keeping one's balance and not acknowledging them even though they are actually there, might have some benefit.  But if the neg is already attached to them, they better realize it, and find a way out of the situation.  They would not be very smart to ignore it, and possibly then have to be in that situation for the rest of their life, because they never take the effort to find a way to get free.

[travelinbob]

Hey NR5,

First of all let clarify what I mean by denial of existence. It is not just to ignore. But it is more like souring the energy they steal from you so they will wean themselves off you. This is done by actively confroting and telling them that they are not real. They will either weaken and go away or seize to exist. Obviously this is a matter of self defense. This is effective if you are a mentaly and spiritualy fit person. A possesed person could not do this because they are weak and imbalanced to begin with, and another cannot do it for them. The weak are always targets of predators in the physical and the other dimensions.

I believe that the best defense is to keep yourself your fit and balanced physicaly, spiritualy and mentaly. The simple presence of a strong person can make negs run away and look for weak victims. And if somebody puts a contract on you by using black magic and negs, you will be able to fight back.

On helping other's under attack, I'm sure an intervension by several fit people would be necessary as well as helping the possesed help him/herself. But the actual techniques required, I don't know.

tb

[neg removal5]

Hey Travelinbob

    I can tell a strong, overconfident person like you who knows it all has never been possessed, and could never get possessed in any reincarnated lifetime under any situations, and has it all figured out.  I'm sure negs see you and scream and run all different kinds of directions.  I'm sure just your ego alone could probably send them to another galaxy.  
    You say that anybody who gets possessed is weak and imbalanced.  Are you aware that Robert Bruce has been possessed before by a "neg".  Are you trying to call Robert Bruce something. Is it possible that your know it all attitude is as close minded or absent minded as the head of a pin.

    In this somewhat dangerous and crazy world, you could be driving down the road in your car at the wrong time and in the wrong place and get into a major car accident and lose both your legs or get brain damage or something else.  It would be an unfortuante situation but unfortunate things can sometimes happen to people in this world and it doesn't make a difference on how strong or weak they are when that unfortunate situation comes along.  I don't care whether a person was a body builder, and a emotional and mental fitness trainer.  They can be traumatized, damaged, and even killed just like everybody else if they find themselves at the wrong place at the wrong time in a major car accident.  We are in vulnerable human bodies, and people who go around with their ego up their butt thinking they are so powerful and strong, and everyone else is weak has a suprise coming to them someday.  Regarding possession and negs, the same situation as major car accidents also happens in that regard.  You may have been fortunate to have grown up in a somewhat functional family, lived in a pleasant environment all your life where egos grow and flourish in someone's butt readily. But not everyone in this world may have been fortuante to have been raised up in a functional family, or to have been able to avoid a lot of dangerous or harmful situations or environments.  So far you in your life may have been able to avoid any major car accidents, but if you keep up with the present attitude that you have about how strong you are and that everybody else is weak, believe me you are headed that way.
    I guarantee you this Robert Bruce is probably a hundred times stronger than you both spiritually and mentally even though he has been possessed before.  Even the strong and the strongest can get possessed if they are in the wrong place at the wrong time around the wrong type people and entities.

You need to re-think your ego-assed beliefs.  Because the weak people are the people who are close minded, think they know it all, and they like to speak about things they have never experienced and know nothing about.  They are so confident and strong about everything, and think that "negs" and other entities will flee from them just by sight.

You also need to realize that usually it is the strong that the "negs" try to attack and mess with.  Remember the Apostles, the "negs" or fallen angels were after them at every turn.  The reason for that is that "negs" tend to attack those people who could possibly be a threat to the negs "corrupt organizations" in the spiritual realm.  They usually don't mess with those that are partying all the time.  

    Also this site was about techniques to use against "negs", not about trying with stupid butt beliefs and stupid butt comments to try to put down people who have ever been possessed for whatever reason.
    If you do not have anything useful to add to this site, as you yourself have said "Techniques I don't know", I would prefer you refrain from leaving replies, or from trying to put down other people with your stupid butt comments, concerning things that it is evident that you know nothing about.

          Travelinbob Good luck on pulling your ego out of your butt

                                                  Bye

[travelinbob]

Hey Neg Removal5,

Guess I hit a nerve!!! Or so your use of gratouitous profanity and angry sarcasm suggests. If my OPINION offends than so be it. It is my opinion, based on my observations through my life. I do not claim that it is the gospel truth for me. But just my opinion and it is subject to change as I see fit. This forum is open for the expression of opinions to open a debate.(I do not think anyone in this forum would claim that there postings are anything but there opinion based on their personal experiences) Forums are there for opinions and the freedom to express them, my American friend. I believe in personal responsability at all levels.

In My experience, what I said is true for ME. But since we all have different paths in the search we call life, our experiences should be different. Hence my self-based philosophy of personal responability. I do not expect anyone to solve my problems, but I will hear their ideas to learn from their PERSONAL perspectives and take them as so. I do not expect the truth from outside sources because my life is mine and no one can give me the awnsers that are with in me and the universe as I perceive it. Just like I can not provide awnsers for anyone else. My awnsers are right for me, perhaps only for me and perhaps only for now. But maybe someone can learn from my opinion, and others might be offended it by them. But if they take offense it is thier responsability. And I am open minded to changing my opinion. I have been refining my life philosphy since I was 8 years old 24 years ago, and I will refine and change it as I go along. We are here to learn and to change. Anyone who claims the KNOW the truth is wrong because every moment that passes changes us and our knowledgebase groes with time.

Also you neglect to mention one important thing about my argument: BALANCE. I speak of strength AND balance. Unbalanced strength is no stregnth at all. And it is MY struggle and responsability to keep this balance with in ME. Regarding RB's experience with NEG attack, I do believe he said himself that he was experimenting with the NEGS and trying to take it to them. He put himself in harms way because he needed to investigate. He put himself Off balance. But he obviously was able to fight it back. He was able to get back in balance and liberate HIMSELF from problems with the help of friends "out there". (I wish I had my copy of his book with me right now so I could give you a page number.) And remember that one of RB's book is titled "Psychic SELF DEFENSE".

I will grant you this: Nobody is excent from attack. I am aware of this. It is why I struggle to keep myself in balanced strength so when the attacks come I will be able to fight them off and scare the weaker negs away. And I do have a support system out there myself. And yes I have been attacked. And yes one day I might be surprised but I plan to be ready to defend MYSELF. And if I need help with a neg stronger than I, I do have friends to help me help myself. And I will help them defend THEMSELVES from attack if they need.

And balanced strength does make a difference in an accident or an attack. It takes a lot more to hurt a fit person that a weak unbalanced one. And strong person will recuperate faster than a weak one. This applies to everything: people in all the parts of thier lives, financial portfolios, as well as countries. Just look how much death and hatred are wished upon your country (the USA) and yet there you guys stand, stronger than ever.

Perhaps you can learn from my opinion that you need to help whomever you are trying to help by cheering their own efforts of self defense in one way or another. Perhaps not! Perhaps it does not apply to his or her life path. Perhaps Psychic Self Defense and personal resposability of balanced stregths applies only to me and no one else in the universe. I do not know. I do not claim to have all the awnsers for everything that apply to everyone. I only claim to have the awnsers that apply for me at the moment and I am willing to share my findings so far in this experiment I call life. One is taught according to one's ability to learn. I try to learn and keep an OPEN MIND from anyone and apply to my life that which is applicable and I discard that which is no applicable in MY life. But I believe that that which I discard might be someone's missing piece in there puzzle. I'm open mided enough to know that we all have wisdom in our own lives, even if someone's cornerstone is not useful in mine. But I will respect it even if to me it is delusional or arrogant.

Good Luck with your neg,Mike.

Robert

[James S]

neg removal5

I've had a look at some of your posts, and had a quick look at your bio, and I'm kind of interested on where your coming from. I don't want to come across as saying your obsessed with negs, but you do seem to be looking at ways of "going to war" with them, like a personal crusade. Forgive me if I'm way off course here but IMHO that's how some of your stuff reads.

My own position is I've got better things to do than be concerned with negs.
I've been seriously attacked twice by some kind of malicious spirits and almost suffocated by way of having my chest compressed and upper torso muscles paralysed. They were very scary experiences. At the time I was attending a christian church and getting involved in intercessory prayer, so I must have severly ticked off some entity. My defence was the one thing I could remember being taught in church - calling on a name of power - Jesus. Both times it worked.

I mentioned that to let you know I'm not dismissing of negs, but I've seen a great number of cases where negs seem to be blamed for anything and everything bad in someones life, and such people seem to me incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions. Easier to pin the blame on some unseen entity than to deal with it yourself.

Ok, I'm rambling....
Since those attacks I've been wary of malicious spirits, but that's all. When I'm doing energy work or phasing, I always set up a shield of white light around me, like a hard translucent milky white sphere. I've always felt white light to be a good defence - something pure that can't be curcumvented by negs. I've also felt the presence of my guide in times of possible danger, so I get the impression I have a protector looking out for me.

As to fighting off a neg attack in another, I've only witnessed or experienced prayer as being a force for removal. I believe we have it within ourselves both mentally and spiritually to fend off most low level attacks as long as we are not in any way disabled by fear of the entity. As for higher level "demonic" attacks, I believe we should call upon the assistance of higher level beings who's desire it is to help and protect us. Such attacks I don't feel we're equipped to handle on our own.

I don't have much faith in electronic devices being of any use as I believe that the kind of EM frequencies we're dealing with are outside the range of most current technology. The stuff I have seen promoted is nothing more than high tech snake oil, peddled by con artists who use technobabble designed to baffle those who know nothing of electrical or electronics engineering.

I hope you find valuable info in these forums to add to your knowledge, but I also hope that you have a more positive purpose to your learning than just ridding the world of negs. I think this world, and especially the USA, has seen enough Witch hunters.

James.

[neg removal5]

Well said Travelinbob

   It would have even been better said if you could have done it without your last line.  But even with the last line you put in, you still said it pretty good.  You realized it was a mistake to try put down people who have ever encounterd a possession or to try to label people as being this or that because they have ever encountered a possession.  

Since you are someone who is capable of seeing his mistake and learning from it, it's brought us back to respectful discussions.  I would react the way I did toward anyone I encountered if I saw that they were in a way taking advantage of a possessed person's situation, as a way to try to put that person down and build themselves up wrongly in the process.  

You've seen from our dialogue that such a statement you made is not really true, and that even the strongest and the strong can find themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, and encounter an unfortunate situation.

I'm actually impressed by your answer.  I can tell by your answer that over all you are a sensative person, who is open minded and is looking to always constantly improve himself.  You are probably also someone who would help a friend, and who would try to take up for people who could not be present for whatever reason to defend themselves.  

You impressed me with your reply.  Good luck on your journey and your searches in life.

[neg removal5]

Hi James

    It's an interest of mine, plus I know a couple of people I'm trying to help.

    I'm the first to agree with you concerning the witch hunts.  Most of the time people go around blaming things on the devil, and the devil is know where to be found.

Probably out of the 100% of people out there who go around saying something is the devil or a spirit entity, probably only about 15% of them are right.  The other 85% it's probably either in their imagination, or they are just finatically acting like a lot of other people around them, like in some of these extreme pentecostal movements, where they sometimes think everything is the devil.  

Even though I have an interest in learning how to counter "negs" and helping people who are possessed in some way, I realize that 85% of the time when people say something is the devil or an entity of some type, the devil or whatever is actually no where around.  It's really just themselves misperceiving something or their imagination.
However different things have differnt realites, there is a misperceiving reality, a imagination reality, and an actual "neg" reality.  One must become perceptive at being able to recognize the correct reality that is present at that time.

However, the "neg" problem is real, even though it should always be kept in proper proportions.  And there are a lot of people out in the world who are being attacked and having their life messed with by negs.  I feel that "neg" technology is an area that the world is presently behind in.  And the technology I speak of is the understanding on how to detect and counter "negs", and have a number of sure way techniques available for forcing them out of people that they are harming, tormenting, and causing problems with.  That way those people can get out of the nightmare they have gone through and get their life back.

[James S]

Hi again neg removal5

From your reply it sounds to me your being quite realistic about it, and if you have been able to truly help people who are suffering from neg problems, well, more power to you!

I don't envy you in this kind of work, it must get quite tiring and frustrating, but if this is your calling, then I wish you all the best.

quote:Probably out of the 100% of people out there who go around saying something is the devil or a spirit entity, probably only about 15% of them are right. The other 85% it's probably either in their imagination, or they are just finatically acting like a lot of other people around them, like in some of these extreme pentecostal movements, where they sometimes think everything is the devil.

This statement in particular makes me think your on the right track. I've been a part of those penticostal churches. All I can say is poor Satan, he cops the blame for absolutely everything bad according to these people. They need to spend a little more time looking in themselves for the answers to their problems rather than "passing the buck" as it were.

AS to technology, I recall a discussion some time back on this forum where someone was experimenting with an EM field strength meter as a means of detection. It's possible this would work, if it could be calibrated correctly and you get to know what your looking for.

Stay safe,
James.

[neg removal5]

Hi James

    I agree with you, the EM field generator things is a topic that is still wide open to discussion.  We just need to find a lot of rich people, who are sincerely interested in the spiritual realm and in helping others who can make these devices and then sell them to others at an affordable price.  That is once that have been field tested and have been shown to work.

The world still has a lot of un-earthed ideas out there, and plenty of different kinds of technology to work with, to hopefully in the near future come up with an array of different kinds of devices that turn the tables on the negs.  As it is now they are invisible, and are out attacking people who cannot see them.  They have an advantage in that area right now, but hopefully soon, devices will be invented that will render obsolete their advantage in that area.  

With creativity and imagination, we will come up with something as a race of people (humans), that will give these "negs" some suprises they have never seen and encountered before.  Maybe we can eventually come up with something that will zap them with such force that it will distort their own vibrational frequencies in an irreversible way where they can never attempt to possess a person again.

[Lynfer]

NR5- I have a suggestion. And please do not take it offensively, it is only my opinion.
It appears you already have techniques for confronting negs.Why do you ask for more ways.
 Keep you using the techniques you know. I am sure that when one of you're techniques doesn't work- you will find more in due time.
 Otherwise- you should stick to what you do have and be grateful for it.Best of luck!

[neg removal5]

Hi

  I'm interested in finding out about all the different techniques for developing energy and for strengthening your energy.

  I'm also interested in stories of how you or someone you know has used certain energy techniques to repel "negs" in the spiritual realm while astral projecting, if one happens to get attack by a neg in the spiritual realm while astral projecting.


 Along the above lines,I'm also interested in every kind and any kind of technique or approach for forcing a neg out of a person it is possessing or messing with, so that the person can regain their complete life back.

I'm presently interested in the above in 2 Main areas:

Area # 1) Things that can be used to actually detect that a neg is messing with a person or actually possessing a person.

Possibilities: 1) electro magnetic field detector, something you can put up to a person, and it goes off if a neg is on the person 2) some other kind of detection device or measuring type meter 3) some special kind of photographic equipment that can photograph a person, and detect if a neg is on the person. Some type of x-ray perhaps.


Area # 2) Substances or techniques that can be used to forcefully remove the neg once it is evident that there is a neg and it is messing with the person or possessing the person.

Possibilities:

1) Prayer

2) chi energy, by a person who is experienced in using it, and knows how to use it to force possessing entities out. Chi energy may or may not be able to be used in that way, it's just a thought.

3) certain substances when burnt on a incense or in some other way, whether those substances be herbs, or some other type of substance. The smell must have a certain scent and vibration that the neg can not stand. Does anyone know of such substances?

4) Possibly psychic energy. Is Psychic energy different from chi energy. How could psychic energy be used to force an entity out of a person? How is using chi energy different from psychic energy when it comes to forcing an entity out of a person?

5) Certain crystals. Who knows what type of crystals send out vibrations that even the strongest negs must leave? Can just the vibrations of certain crystals brought into the area of a possessed person force the entity to come out of the person?

6) flower essences. Are there certain flower essences known which can force an entity out of a person?

7) Underground streams. How powerful must an underground stream be to force a strong neg out of a person? Who knows some locations of underground streams in the U.S. or anywhere else that are strong enough to do this?

Acupuncture. Could Acupuncture possibly be used to force a strong entity out of a person. By releasing energy channels in the person that may be blocked or that the neg may have blocked, can the release of those energy channels by acupuncture possibly force a possessing neg entity out?

9) Low voltage electricity. How much voltage of electricity would be needed to force a neg out of a person. Are there low voltage devices that someone can buy somewhere which will work in forcing a neg out of a person?

10) There are many ways to attempt removing a neg from the physical realm by a person who is in their physical body. Are there ways to remove a neg from a person who is being messed with by traveling in the astral realm by astral projection? What are all the different types of methods and techniques one can use from the astral realm during astral projection to help a person somewhere who is possessed by a neg entity?

11) Are there any magnetic field type devices that a person can use to remove a neg from a person. What are some ideas for some electrical or magnietic or energy type devices that could be built to remove negs from people they are messing with?


Please anyone who would like to, feel free to discuss all these questions above with everyone on the forum. Any information you have of other web sites which contain information. Or any information you have of certain substances or crystals that can be used to force a neg out of a person?

Please feel free to e-mail me also.

Everyone have a good day. Together maybe we can rid the world of negs all together. I would also be interested in finding out if devices or even crystals can be built that can be used to either destroy negs all together, or if we choose not to destroy them to at least be able to imprison them so they can no longer reak havoc on mankind.