leaving.

[James S]

How is it people on a forum like this can be victimised?
We all have a high degree of anonimity. We only tell people what we want to tell them. We only reply the way we want to reply. We can only get to know people here as much as they want us to know them.

For all I know Goingslow might really be an 82yo nun, or Timeless a 25yo axe-murdering psychopath on the run with a laptop and mobile phone, just pretending to be a housewife & mother. Actually that might answer a few....[]

I might actually be God and have chosen to exert my will over this electronic equipment, my purpose here being to judge the worthy and warn that when the next lot of smitings are due some of you had better watch out!!!
Don't worry though, I'm not. Frank is really G....oops, darn! I was supposed to keep that a secret!

When you are nothing more than bits of text on a website with possibly an occasional picture, the only way you can be victimised is if you choose to be a victim.

James (or whoever I really am)

[timeless]

James!!!!

Dear Lord! [] You had me rolling on the floor again. Man you are totally killer! [:O]  Watch out I have enough money to visit Aussie country you know.[] My middle name is Carrie by the way.  Actually it isn't but I wish it was. Thanks for putting my age so young.[8D] Awww! 25...good year...good year.

Big Smiles...still chuckling,
timeless[]

[PeacefulWarrior]

GoingSlow-
thanks for clarifying.  I read the post LATE at night and I don't think I picked up on  the sarcasm.  Anyway, I actually think this post has turned out a lot of really healthy conversation.  People need to realize that cyberspace is a very unique place and social interactions within it are not like our everyday interactions.  I am not saying they should or shouldn't be, it's just a fact and, interestingly enough, we are really the first human beings to experience "digital" interaction.  I don't want to start waxing philisophical, so I will shut up now.  I just have one more thing to say: there isn't anyone here I dislike or hold a grudge against.  People here have definetly ticked me off a number of times, but honestly I might remember the topic of conversation, but who said what and why I was mad...I can't remember.  I truly can't. It's ALL GOOOOOD in the Astral Forum HOOD![8D]       []

[GTP]

quote:Originally posted by Nay

I disagree GTP... Everyone is entiled to their own opinions and if the moderators jumped every time someone had a disagreement...there would be no one left to talk about such things!

[] Nay.

We need to respect other's feelings, Nay. Opinions are not always innocent. They can create hurt feelings and/or offended posters. (people, not posters on walls, lol) Especially if the "victim" is obviously hurt and says so. It's not that hard to tell if an opinion is offending/hurting a poster. Moderators can make a difference in this kind of situation.

[goingslow]

LOL@James.

I guess I do project that nun image.. Not the first time I've been told that.

I agree PW with what you said about this thread.  Its actually hard for me to carry a grudge, and some of my best friends are people I met during arguments or intense discussions where we didnt agree and even got insulting.  Just like I was reacting to the situation so were they.  Just like spirit girl was just reacting to being hurt etc.  

[Nay]

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We need to respect other's feelings, Nay. Opinions are not always innocent. They can create hurt feelings and/or offended posters. (people, not posters on walls, lol) Especially if the "victim" is obviously hurt and says so. It's not that hard to tell if an opinion is offending/hurting a poster. Moderators can make a difference in this kind of situation.
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I know my opinions are not always innocent...that's because they are MY opinions.  I will not monitor what I say just because I may or may not hurt or offend posters.  And let's face it...we are talking about ONE "victim" here...And she asked...and received!  If she allowed it to hurt or offend that is her.  Then don't come back for more and more and more and more..or you will get more of the same.  What exactly do you think the moderators can do to make a difference?  I am way too old to be put in Time-Out! [)]
But of course this is my opinion [] I am not sure if I am offending you or not..not MEANING to, just saying how I feel.

Nay. []

[James S]

Tia,
I will always believe one thing about you - you have a very sharp mind. You've ask some amazingly intelligent and insightful questions, and you'll probably go a long way if you can channel that intellect and insight in the right way. I have a 13yo son and he doesn't think about things half as much as you do. Actually, he doesn't seem to like thinking much at all!

At the moment though it seems like you need to feel justified in what you've said. If you want to share thoughts and opinions, great, we'll all be in on that. If you just want to have your thoughts and opinions justified, well, sorry. It's not just you, no-one gets away with that here.

PW,
You pointed out something important, and one of the things that makes this forum one of the rare ones on the web - I've seen you and others (definitely me included) get ticked off by someone on one post, yet have a normal conversation with that same person in another. No-one here's perfect, we all have our buttons that get pushed, but hardly ever does someone go right off about it.

Goingslow,
Not the first time you've been told?
Mate, you've gotta stop wearing those habits![]

GTP,
Yes, the moderators have intervened in some cases, and Adrian has removed members from this site, but only when they have prooven to be constantly abusive or have regularly given foolish or dangerous advice to people who might be in a difficult situation.

As to being offended, if you cop deliberate personal abuse from someone, that's not on, and shouldn't ever be tolerated. If what offends you is someone's opinion, sorry, but get over it. The simple fact is we don't all think the same, and opinions aren't indisputable facts, they're not The Truth of All Things, they're only opinions. Most people here think about what they say so as not to offend people, but the bottom line is - the way we choose to recieve a comment is at fault far more often than the way we choose to offer a comment.


Timeless,
Sorry, um...really I am. I didn't mean it.... really...I...umm... didn't want to offend you at all....um... please don't be angry.......pleasepleasepleaseplease...........[)]
My wife says we've a spare bed here if you wish to visit, just be sure to leave all knives, axes, and other lethal impliments...machine-guns...knitting needles...at the door before you come in. And please let us know in advance so we can put the kitchen cutlery somewhere.....safe[]

James.

[Spirit_Gurl]

yes, congradulaions. you have succeded. instead of being patient and acceptig my apologies, warnings, and mood swings, you have insulted me and yelled at me. accused me of being an ungrateful attention-loving brat. since you all seem to want nothing of me, or nothing to do with me, I assume you wouldnt mind if i left. Im getting sick and tired of being insulted. I don't need this. Patience is a virtue, one that a lot of you do not have. Instead of listening to my questions and being patient, you write as though you are god and created the universe, you write as though I am just a little girl who will come to know the 'truth' in time, you write as though you've ignored all of my apologies. I'm through apologising for being in a bad mood, when i havent gotten a single apology from any of you. but of course, i expect you think that you were right and I was wrong, huh? that i should apologise to you for stating my mind, and that you were the victiom. but i deserve as much of an apology as you guys do, and since i have apologised many times beforehand and after, and have gotten no forgiveness or sympathy or AWKNOWLEDGEMENT even, I dont see any reason to continue wasting my time on this site. you can accuse me of twisting your words, or ignoring all the 'nice' 'wonderful' replys, you can say that you never insulted me and were only answering my quiestion, but it wont change anything. I have come to the conclusion that you are all this big community who hates answering a begginer's queistions, doesn't remember what it's like to have mood swings and bad days, doesnt know what it's like to feel as though nothing matters or has a reason for being, and doesn't care about any of that which a young teen might have to go through day in and day out. and then of course, when a few nice people have the AUDACITY to compliment me or show sympathy, someone else has to come along and ask "why is everyone coddling spirit girl?"
BECAUSE THEY HAVE HEARTS.

I'm sorry. See? yet another apology that you will ignore.
This will probably be my last, if not next-to-last post. I'll come back once in a while to see if anything interesting has happened, but dont expect me to truly be 'back'. the only way this won't be my last post is if I need to preserve my dignity because a fellow member had decided to once again openly insult me.

so good riddence. have fun on your little exclusive site. I hope you one day get a member that will insult and make you feel as bad and unworthy as you've made me feel.

sincerely, Tia.