Is it possible to speak with entitys when.......

[n/a]

my sole purpose of statements in this case is that Example above you,
of "entity" that takes the wheel of fortune in your head.
you trust some voices, end then the Energetic Entity find an Entrance
in your head. when they got the 'keys', then then is to late.
Schizophrenia in both cases.

1 VOICE IS SOMETHING COMPLETLEY DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!!!for God's sake!
boy, you all got a skill of Perception!
the human brain is not designed to exist in 2 separate, completley different worlds, or 3 or 4...- tell me when to stop.
that is what we can learn if we find the use of the law of analogy.
"as above, so below."
and not try to find significance in ego(1ego=1character=1world=common state of consciousness of only world of matter.
in my Experience, matter is a mother that ley some ego(eggs)).

and you are not an native Indian, rotar.
that is what voices of my "higher" "spiritual" "self" is teling 'me' from "spiritual" "levels" of "hope" from 'Raven'Inteligence studio
network spirit "above" "ground" to tell that to you.
and to my 'brothers' and my 'nephews' and 'nieces'.
I now a few real American Indians.
Inteligent Ones as well.

[n/a]

Tarot, you are a wanna be.[]

[Tisha]

Folks, do not be upset by Azaithoth, I've concluded that either he's high on crack or acid, or he's a psychopath.  I'm hoping it's drugs, because at least then Thoth has the choice to sober-up . . . and psychopaths can't be helped except by more drugs.

But even psychopathic acid-freaks can be wise (ever read Alice in Wonderland?). Try to look past the moron-personality and his anti-american stance to see what he's actually trying to SAY.  In his more sober moments, he reveals his learned wisdom, and a little bit of poetry, if you are paying attention.

Thoth is trying to tell you that there is a big difference between HEARING with your EARS to PERCEIVING in a VISIONARY STATE.  This I know to be true!  

Sometimes we use the word "hear" as metaphor or analogy.  Actually, we're PERCEIVING communication on an otherworldly level, and our brains have a hard time accepting otherworldly perception, so we tell ourselves we "heard" it.  But we didn't.

Sometimes those so-called voices are just nonsense-garbage-tapes playing back to you, (like the europunk-death-crush-kill-destroy music Thoth listens to). They are debris collected over days/months/years all mixed up and played back to you.  My suggestion is to IGNORE THE NOISE.  It is garbage!

Then again, some perceived messages from the otherworldly realms might have real value, if they come through real strong and turn out later to have been true or useful. It is wise to suspend judgment until you prove yourself right or wrong. When I perceive such information, I write it down and go on with my day.  I keep it for a year.  If is turns out to be worthless, I throw it out. And I NEVER act on a message unless the instruction is life-affirming.

Then AGAIN, if you are REALLY hearing voices - with your ears - and those voices are telling you do do something bad, PLEASE! have a friend drive you to the nearest emergency room and ask for the psychiatric nurse.  You can post messages to the rest of us from your hospital room. Those drugs are good, take them. And peace be with you.

[shaman]

Dear General, Colonel? lieutenenatn? or just Hey Man!?

Back to your Original posting.

I want to confirm that there is a state when you are falling asleep, which a state between awake and asleep where you are still very much conscious and lucid but you already start to have dream like experiences... then you can hear voice or see pictures or short dreams... I am myself experiencing that very often... you are not crazy, neither schyzophrenic (Thanks God!), and fortunately today the time of the elctroshock has been abolished (see "fly over a cucu's ness", a must! - with Jack Nicholson when he was about my age). This state where you hear voices is called the hypnagonic state, it is a NORMAL state and the only difference is that you are aware of it while others are not.

No to the interpretation. You can pretend and belief that dreams carry messages for us and that they need interpretation, in that sams sens you might want to say that these voices can be messages from our  subconsciousness... Or you might want to believe they might be from the astral world, whether these are spirits or others... If you think they are spirits and want them to go away, then light a candle and ask these spirits to leave you immediately. Let the candle burn down completely. That should work.

Now from the point of view of science the hypnagonic state is real just the interpretation is the one where the messages come from the unconscious part of your mind and not from spirits (since science does not belive in spirits...). So even from a skeptical scientific point of view you are completely sane and have nothing to worry about. Nobody is going to burn you alife because you are a wizzard or a witch like Joan of Arc (who in my view was a prophet!) and heard voices.

Best to you and to all of you who are aware of the hypnagonic state...

[n/a]

thanks Tish, for your presence in this Universe.

OK!) let me try again.
1    VOICE    IS    FINE.
but   do  not  talk   to   him,  just   listen.
(he is from higher levels, isn't he?)
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF SAYING :
-ONE AT THE TIME, PLEASE!
many voices is Schizophrenia.
(thoughts are having a forum in your head.)
or the entitetia (and now the entities are having a forum in your head.)




"!"If you think they are spirits and want them to go away, then light a candle and ask these spirits to leave you immediately. Let the candle burn down completely. That should work."I"
(they can do that in the hospital as well;)

oh, yes, wise "Sha-man",
but what if One of the spirits is having birthday?

[Van-Stolin]

So you are saying that it is ok if you are persiving something talking to you, but if there are lots of voices then it is bad?  Well that means that I am ok, I only have two voices that I listen to and one of them is from my subconsius, very iffy thoughts there so I don't follow them.  The other is from a spirt that I have know for a few good months now, I made freinds with her and talk to her all the time, most of the time I zone out becuase of this and get in trouble[], but I don't care.

[Andrew Bolander]

I've been OBE-ing for the last 30 years, and haven't really encountered anything evil until about 4 years ago. The experience is still so vivid. But anyway, I did encounter a very friendly person while I was out once. He took me around his city, and finally to his home. He introduced me to his wife and two kids. They all took me very much in stride, while it was all I could do just to keep my emotions in check. I've since seen this person on other OBEs, but not within the last year. I've been having trouble raising my vibrations high enough. Yes, they talk, and are as real as we are in our physical state.

What a divine gift this is.

[cainam_nazier]

No, I still don't agree perceiving many voices is bad.  When ever I go into a deep meditation top open myself up to others thoughts I almost always get multiple voices.  I get all kinds of stuff: phone conversations, people talking to themselves, random thoughts, dream images, and some misc. entities.  I consider this to be normal when going into this kind of altered state.  Now I can filter them out to where there is only one or two if there is a need or desire to, but in general I listen to them all.

And I am still normal.  I don't have paranoid delusions, or multiple personalities, or any other psychological diorders.

It is like with all things a matter of what you do with it and or how you allow it to effect you.  The just being there listening is not the cause of the problem.  The problem is the resulting actions of the individual not what he or she hears.

[Van-Stolin]

Ok, I see.  I forgot to say if you acctually 'hear' them talking instead of perciving.  I have never 'heard' them talk, but I have only talked to the two, I have heard many others when I am about to go to sleep, but never talked to them.  What I find weird is that I am able to communicate with the two even without been in meditaion, although it takes concentration to talk to them and as I said before gives me a headache.  So does this mean that they aren't spirts, but just stuff from my head, but if that was so then how could the produce un biased anwsers and other things.

[jacktheninja]

dude, like that one guy was all talking about Idians having telepathy and sh**...I read this book that says aborigines in austalia still do...whoa....that book did have a lot of questionable material...but whatever...and gues what else I've been doing that one ki thing where you imagine yourself on fire and it empowering you and whatnot...and I made this burger king toy light up just by putting on my chest as I laid down... it kicked butt!

I here voices a lot to... and then I realized it was my tv...cause I was all drifting off into sllep and junk, and I kept hearing a news report...and I was all like WTF?! so I followed the noise and it was coming out of the speakers in my tv...but the tv was off, and when I unplugged it, it went away...I guess the way it's wired lets it transmit radio frequencies at super low volume, cause I could only hear when I'm like meditating or going to sleep....maybe the government is sending me subliminal messages about tomarrows weather...lol

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[KittyKatty]

This sounds familiar.  My mom is sensitive and she's had dreams about talking to my grandmother (Dad's Side).  But while she had that dream, My dad's went up to his shoulders.  My parents were worried that my dad wasnt going to get the job.  But when mom woke up, She said, "Grandma said Everything will be alright."  And he got the job!

[Van-Stolin]

Ok, I just got back from school and I was trying to do my work, but I kept falling asleep.  Well anyway as I would go to sleep I would start to hear voices, even though I knew that no one in the room talks (strict rule on talking).  Clear as day, some of them were talking about video games and other thing, it really freaked me out since I never really went to sleep and could still understand what was going on around me.  I think at one point during this time I still could see my paper, WITH MY EYES CLOSED!!

[n/a]

"3 IS A CROWD!"[xx(]

[General-Army]

Is it possible to speak with entitys when you are falling asleep? I hear people talking sometimes at night minutes before i fall asleep, i think its that dream thing starting up but i have had conversations with them sometimes. A while ago i was able to hold a 5 minute conversation, i would get names usualy. Also i would get a wierd feeling in my head then i would hear the message, i would feel as though the connection would be still on and i would ask a question. But if i heard a wierd voice that sounded evil or bad i would ignore it.