EVERYONE READ, skepticism ; dedicated to shadowda

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
    Thanks for the post!  Please, please don't ever worry if a post is to long or boring!  The longer and more thoughtful a post the better IMO!!  I do know who James Randi is, and am familiar with the psychic challenge.  i am also familiar with uri geller and his infamous spoon trick...haven't really looked into it though so i don't have an opinion on him.  Mr. Randi is, well, a skeptic.  Which is not what i would call myself.  On the other hand, i am a "believer".  i have had personal experiences that go way beyond even the pseudo-scientific explanations that are provided at psipog.(the do have some sound theories, gotta give props to them for that)  i am very hopeful to find people here who do experiement and train.  in a thoughtful and deliberate manner...those who are not afraid to look into the possiblities that higher levels of manifestation and expression of the power of life force is not dependant upon anger and "limit breaks" thank can be achieved by bottling up your rage...that is such a disgusting idea...you think the kids at columbine had a couple of "limit breaks"?...there is so much danger in arrogance...and i don't really know much of anything about these psycho-spiritual technologies....but i do have some working theories and some experiences that, so far, support these theories....my question is at this point...where are all the people who have grown up??  have they all just lost interest in this area of study when they understood that they were, for all intents and purposes, deluding themselves to a great extent about their abilities?  where are all the serious practicioners??  and if anyone is out there, i think we should really shift the focus of these forums from unfounded claims to grounded experience and exploration.  and like you marco, i am certainly not ruling out that other kinesis abilities and all that are impossible!  but let us use our discretion!!  anyone out there heaing this?  thanks very much for your input marco []  Namaste

[gmviale]

"I've often said that one reason for the publics easy acceptance of paranormal and/or supernatural claims is the general lack of "connection" they feel with modern science and technology. Confronted with the facts of modern physics, for example, the average person feels bewildered and adrift. Everyone uses computers, telephones, and other very sophisticated bits of advanced high-tech without understanding how they work, or how they were designed. Much easier is the attitude that "science doesn't have the answers," and "it's not really understood by anyone." With that going for them, the hoi polloi find acceptance of speaking-to-the-dead and "your lucky lottery numbers" easy to accept."

from James Randi

From Thomas Gray (1716-1771): "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."


Shadowdancer,

You have the right to be skeptical on  kamehamehas, pyrokinesis nad cryokinesis. Well, most of the things that are discussed in these  energy forums ( I KNOW 30 forums like these ones) cannot be done or are  very weak to prove to an audience. The following practices are: destroying things with jing, cryokinesis, pyrokinesis, ki disc, and some other practices. Shadowdancer, Just dont get obessed into changing persons' point of view ( the radical ki believers), (The ones that claim to do feats such as the kamehameha) alone, they won't change, eventually when they will get bored of trying  trying and trying, when they will mature adults, when they will study  higher physics, thermodynamics, astrophysics, relativity,mechanics, waves, radiation, they will understand..

Many users from these forums will tell me, hey you jerk, you ignorant, i can do pyrokinesis, and i can do cryokinesis. The truth is that energy can do EVERYTHING but our mind was not developed to be like superman (beams from out eyes, levitation, super developed senses). Cryo and pyrokinesis can be done. ( i myself try to do it) but the results are not satisfactory. You cannot create fire with your hands, you cannot freeze water, if you do ,then please go to the million dollar supernatural challenge, if are in short in money i could lend you.. hha ha ah ( MAYBE[])

When i was a kiddo, watching DBZ every day, every episode, i knew everything about DBZ ( i can still remember everything), i even saw censored episodes. After hearing the word ki in a japanese episode, i started researching ki for hours on the internet and i came through different practices (NOT ENERGIES): qi gong, tai chi ( I was a tai chi student but i quit), rei ki ,aikido, ki, psi (PSIPOG MY FOVORITE SITE), mana, wicca and many others.

At first, i was bewildered in the supernatural and at the same time i believed in it. I was bewildered, due to the fact that my telekinesis skills did not progress  over 6 months of hard training ( IM specialised in ki  and psi) and my mum kept on saying me that wicca or psiballs is bovine excrement, and there is not any scientific evidence. At that time, i replied to my mum, well there isn 't any scientific knowledge because no one can explain Uri Geller's clock repair with his mind. After years of researching, i got a lot of information on ki, shaolin, (real stuff talked between millions of people, TESTED STUFF LIKE ACUNPUNTURE) like qi gong or tai chi or aikido,NOT KAMEHAMEHA OR KI BLADE OR Ki super sayian. Even though i may sound skeptical about projecting ki out of my body, making damage with it, i still believe in it because since i practice more now; i see my results, however the results are very slow and no one of my sparring friends can do OBSERVABLE RESULTS WITH KI. I like psipog (www.psipog.net) for example because they show you videos( now they are offline due to bandwidth problems), (you can be skeptical in it or not)and as you will see or if you have already seen it RESULTS ARE VERY HARD TO GET. I do believe in the impossible but i always have my skeptical mind.

The very first quote mentioned in this post is from James Randi. Do you know James Randi? i bet you don't. Why??? because many people such as KATO and other users using nicknames as BROLI, GOHAN and X-MEN and MASTER KATO are not informed about ki and the other practices. If they would be wise, they would know the world most famous RICH (ASSHO****, the guy seems to be fake, and since people were easily influenced in the 70 s, he made money with his psychic abilities) psychic URI GELLER (www.uri-geller.com) and try to make money like him, or James Randi, the founder of the JREF (James Randi educational foundation) THE TOP ORGANIZATION THAT EXPLAINS THE FAKE  SUPERNATURAL PRETENDERS WHO THEN ACCEPT TO BE MAGICIANS!!!

However, i am impressed from Uri Geller since he met my COUSIN IN THE UNIVERSITY WHERE HE WORKS; HE HAS A PHD IN CHEMISTRY AND BENDED A  SPOON WITHOUT TOUCHING IT, NO TRICK S WERE  TEHRE BECAUSE URI WAS 4 METERS AWAY FROM MY COUSIN. THE WORLD SHARES MANY SECRETS MY FRIEND.

Back to the point, people be aware of the internet ( from where you get the information from) since most of ki or energy websites are fake ( THEY GIVE YOU TECHNIQUE TO BLOW MOUNTAINS,ok destroy mount everest then; they even copy  the exact  techniques between themselves, so pathetic. If you share my point of views, use your time wisely, experiment radical things fro some time but don#t strain your mind if you cant even make your ki visible ( I CANT [V] ).

Master Kato or anyone who claims to destroy stuff with ki ,If you HAVE Very good results, why don't you show it to people, yes, it cost money to arrive in the USA , however if you go bankrupt going there, you still could win ONE MILLION DOLLARS PARANORMAL CHALLENGE and i will give you 200 dollars more if you show me your kamehameha. Here is the link to partecipate;

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

BE AWARE, no one has passed the preliminary tests.

I do practice psionics and ki and i have some decent results, (not enough to partecipate in that challenge) but rememeber beleive in your results, in what YOU can do. Don't try to believe and learn from someone who writes in websites :teleportation, levitation or ki blasts techniques. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF !

Long peace and training,
Marco

PS: I hope YOU read my entire very long post. Was it too boring?