Questions and advice about healing corner ~

[Tisha]

Because connections are a two-way street . . . magic is kind of funny that way.  There is an Arthurian legend that illustrates this point perfectly, if I can find it, I'll post it.  

I'm not a Reiki master; I don't call myself a healer, although I can and do heal sometimes, I've got that "thing" flowing through me, and it flows out of my hands (and breaks my watch, and reconfigures my computer).  I guess that's like Reiki?  Anyway, here's my take on things:

If one's idea of "healing" involves sending warm fuzzy healing energy towards the idea of another person, or donating our own abundant energies to people in need, there's very little risk involved.  These methods are effective and I do them all the time.  In fact, for most of us, this is all we CAN do, and all we SHOULD do.  

When spiritual healers REALLY want to get down-and-dirty, and eradicate a serious illness, not only do they need to open themselves up and connect with the ill person, they need to connect with the illness itself!!!!!!  And that puts the healers at risk, if they don't protect themselves (whether by "white light" or some other method).

That is why I don't mess with anything that will put me at personal risk . . . I'm just NOT THAT GOOD YET.  I stick with the simple things: headaches, muscle aches, scrapes-and-strains, ennui, the blues . . . to hone my skills, and perhaps someday to work my way up to the heavy stuff.  

If I'm faced with something truly serious, I pray, and I donate my (healthy) energy to the ill person.  If my energy is low, or I am ill, I am in no position to be sending my stuff anywhere - - - I don't want to make the ill person more sick!  So, in times such as these, I ask the spirit world for help.  In fact, one of the best ways to do safe(r) healing work is to obtain the help of an otherworldy spiritual guide.  You can do a lot more good work this way.

Many of us are goodhearted people who want to help others - - - in fact many of us are drawn to this path precisely for this reason.  But a person who is TRULY SERIOUS about healing work has chosen a lifelong and potentially dangerous path.  A healer must be impeccable: powerfully strong-willed,  multi-skilled, and brutal in his/her self-assessments.  Because, a foolish risk can get them  - - - well, sick.

I'm not posting this to scare anyone off, I just want to emphasize that spiritual healing work is not something anyone can decide to "just do" one day (unless they're Jesus or Mother Theresa or some saint or otherwise naturally gifted).    Most of us are best off limiting ourselves to spreading love and affection and goodwill and warm fuzzy feelings, all over the place, and especially towards people in need.  AND (this is important) donate your energies in PRACTICAL ways.  Like, visit!  Bring chicken soup. Clean their homes. Look after their kids.  Hold their hands.  Why send "white light" to your neighbor when you can actually DO something physical for them?  Better yet, why not do both?

One more thing: support the spiritual practitioners in your community (if you know any) who must dedicate their LIVES to do healing work properly.  The work is exhausting, and it doesn't pay squat.  I used to bring food and do house and yardwork for the Lakota (Sioux) medicine man (and his wife) at the local reservation, when I lived in Minnesota.  I figured, they deserved it!



Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night to you there Trisha. Just wanted to thank you for being so detailed and lenghty about your answer to my question about healing. I agree with nearly everything that you said! This is just the kind of question that's been rollin' around in my mind for some time and are happy to see someone who knows about this and was willing to help answer it for me a bit. (*smile*)

Much thanks again to you! ~

Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Tisha]

Ah!  Here it is, that Arthurian legend:

" . . . For an enchantment to be total, it must involve both enchanter and enchanted, and she knew, with a spasm of terror, that this spell she was weaving would work on her too, and rebound on her.  She could not pretend passion and desire; she must FEEL them as well.  She knew, with a fear that wrung her heart, that even as the Merlin would be helpless in her hands, so it might well be that she would come to be helpless in his . . ."

This is from The Mists of Avalon, which contains a story of the enchantress  Nimue's betrayal of the Merlin.  She needed to bind him to her, but in doing so she fell helplessly in love, and after the betrayal (he was slain) she took her own life.  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_sad.gif" border=0>  Of course, this is anything BUT a healing story, but it is an illustration of how one cannot do magic in a vacuum.  One is always an integral part of the spell!  

This is very important point to remember when doing intense energy work with a sick person . . . whether the person is emotionally sick or physically ill.  With serious healing work you, in a way, become one with that person.  A skilled healer must know how to manage this kind of relationship . . . and most of us can't pull this off during the first try, to say the least!

Blessings to all and good night,



Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Adrian]

quote:Originally posted by Blue Light Mystic:
G'day/night all. I'd like to include a place where people who like to heal or send healing energy to others that include Reiki Masters as other kind of healers can gather to ask questions and provide advice to those who want to learn more about healing in general.

Greetings Blue Light Mystic!

This is such a place! The reason this second forum was created in addition to the individual healing forum, is so that people can discuss and hopefully learn about all aspects of healing - particularly from those healers among us.

As we know, almost all illness that manifest in the physical body, has its root cause in the etheric, Astral or higher bodies and/or due to an elemental (fire, water, air, earth) imbalance. So if the illness can be treated at those levels, it should be possible ultimately possible to completely erradicate disease as it is known ny material medicine. Of course, Auric vision and clairvoyance are also very important aspects of the identification of these conditions.

There are of course numerous types of such healing as we are dealing with here, including, but not limited to energy - Reiki, Prana etc. -  Spiritual, herbal, magnetic, electric, homeopathic, and all of the many disciplines they, and all other disciplines encompass. I very much hope that we can all learn from each other here, and put that knowledge to the very best possible use in healing others both person to person and at a distance.

I am delighted to see so much interest in these areas already, and in particular in its application in the healing power sent over to little Maoli.

If anyone has any good Web links on healing, please send them to me by private message or post them here.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

[Reikimaster]

Hello Blue light Mystic
        You are so right about the back lash of Reiki . I the earlier stages when I was attuned to level 2 I became complacent with the girl I was involved with and found that without cleansing one self after healing is as bad as not protecting one self prior. I took on her symtoms of abdominal cramps. I also found this occurs when to emotionaly involved with the person , as with my father who suffered from alhiemer. I is very hard no to feel empathy , but the energy of the healer could be drained if to emotionaly connected. There is also the factors of lost spirits gravitating to the energy and not moving to the light in confussion. The asended Reiki master who sends the energy through the chanel , in my case reacts acordingly , sometimes I feel no flow of energy until I am insync............
                                                               Have a Great Day!!!

Reikimaster

[Tom]

Often I find that the energy flows out of me without my having chosen to start sending it. Sometimes just thinking about sending energy is enough to start the process, but this is something different. Even when I am not thinking about sending energy, there are times when it just starts flowing. This can get to the point where energy is flowing out faster than it is coming in to replace what is being lost. I have been doing reiki for a while now. Usually I can send reiki constantly and indefinitely as the energy flows in to replace what is sent out. When the energy flows out faster than it can flow in, though, it eventually seems to cut me off from my supply. Naturally, this just makes things worse. Often the only way to recover the lost energy is to go to sleep for a while. When I wake up the situation is usually better. My point is that when the energy goes out like that without warning it is not possible to prepare in advance. There does not seem to be any lasting damage, so long as the flow of energy is one way. I have also picked up symptoms from when there is a bit of feedback with the energy I am sending. It can take a while to clear away the newly acquired symptoms, but not as long as it takes for the person who acquired the original problems.

[Spike]

Now, that would explain the headaches that I have been experiencing lately.
Thanks for sharing this knowledge.
I always protect myself before doing anything, but have not done so for healing as I was not aware of the 'two-way street'. It now makes perfect sense to me.
Since reading this, I have consciously worked on shielding myself and my headaches have dissappeared (I have been sending energy/healing  to Maoli).
I need to learn more about healing, and this sounds like the right place.
Thanks again everyone.

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night to ye Tisha! Just basically wanted to thank you for sharing something as wonderfully intriguing as the Arthurian legend. Very neat stuff indeed! What a beautiful quote you chose to share there with me. I loved it a lot, thanks! Such an enchantingly beautiful picture came to mind whenever I read that, yet sad too. Almost sounds like the healer sacrifed herself due to love for dear Merlin. No love could be stronger than that kind, (as well as unconditional love, the kind our cats and dogs have for us) for all I know anyway.

Anyway, yes, I've heard that The Mists of Avalon is really a great book. Did you also know it came in audio book form too? Well, just in case you or anyone else didn't know, here's the link on amazon.com where you could find out more about it.This is definitely always a nice little thing to have handy, especially if one's going to be going on a long trip somewhere in any vehicle that at least has a casette player.   ~

And yes, I truly believe in what you said here, "With serious healing work you, in a way, become one with that person." Tisha. Love as I believe is one of the main key ingredients not only to being able to heal another, but to also accomplish doing many other things in one's life and for others too. Love can do many wonderful things, and can be one of the 'true' magick's that can be seen taking effect in this world as well as on other levels that exist. ~

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night to you there Adrian! ~

I'm also happy that you created these healing place discussion areas for the main bulk of the site now. Thanks. Yes, we/people as a whole should have a place where they can talk more about what healing's all about. Not all modern medicine can always at all times be the only way to really help ~heal~ a person's problem. It is also good to try 'other' alternatives indeed, especially herbs or herbal medicines as well as Reiki and other healing methods. ~

I really tend to agree with what you said here as well, "As we know, almost all illness that manifest in the physical body, has its root cause in the etheric, Astral or higher bodies and/or due to an elemental (fire, water, air, earth) imbalance. So if the illness can be treated at those levels, it should be possible ultimately possible to completely erradicate disease as it is known ny material medicine. Of course, Auric vision and clairvoyance are also very important aspects of the identification of these conditions." Adrian. ~

So, yes, not 'every' physical illness is due to something that may be wrong with our body and could be something that's wrong with us on 'another' level or dimension, especially within the astral. This could be due to one for some reason picking up 'astral parasites' and as a result, maybe right away or over time, could result in the person having some kind of physical 'disease, illness or sickness' that can also be an ongoing thing in the physical with that particular person, unless these parasites are removed, on the 'astral' level. ~

And yes, auric vision and clairvoyance especially used to further aid in one finding the problem(s) area(s) on the person they're healing does really come in very handy. I've heard a few Reiki Masters say that they've seen the disease or problem area as being a small mass of black and kept focusing on it disinigrating with the color the Reiki Master was assigned to use to heal people with. That certainly does make sense, to maybe imagine or visualize the disease or problem area as being black and seeing it disappear more and more while bombarding it with white light (or any other positive healing color such as blue and green) until it's gone... ~

Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night there Reikimaster! ~

Yes, darn that back lash effect thingy. I've tried to heal others as well, though I'm not a Reiki Master unfortunatly...and somehow wound up getting the people I tried healing's symptoms of what they had! How terrible! Of course, one has to protect themself then I guess while trying to do 'any' kind of healing work, even if it's only just sending light over their way. And, even with 'absentee', in the case of with Reiki... Hard to believe we can actually feel or get another person's sickness, even their own physical pain! But, unfortunatly, it's true...
I've tried healing my cat whenever she had an urine infection, and the next thing I knew, probably within a few days, I came down with one as well...go darn figure. It's not fair! It still happened even though I love her! ~
       
"... the healer could be drained if to emotionaly connected." Reikimaster

Yes, that's true too. I do wonder why that is though? Why does this drain one if they feel empathic or love the other person they're trying to heal? Why can't we feel that way darn it without draining ourself?! ~

"There is also the factors of lost spirits gravitating to the energy and not moving to the light in confussion. " Reikimaster

Yes, I agree with you there. That especially would happen if one wouldn't protect themself before doing the healing work due to lost, confused and even  Earthbound spirits that would naturally be attracted to the light the healer's producing. ~

Thanks for further verifying what I had already believed in here. ~

Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night there to you too Tom. ~

"Often I find that the energy flows out of me without my having chosen to start sending it. Sometimes just thinking about sending energy is enough to start the process, but this is something different. Even when I am not thinking about sending energy, there are times when it just starts flowing. This can get to the point where energy is flowing out faster than it is coming in to replace what is being lost." Tom

Yes, this has been happening with me as well too. I tend to just think about sending light and energy to a person and it just seems to happen, almost automatically, and even before really thinking about it. I wonder how the energy does get replaced anyway then? Any ideas? Where does it come from? Do we have to ask for it to be replaced, or does it just appear again? Is it the natural energy particles that exist all around us or is this from the prana we breathe from the natural air outside? Sorry for all of the questions, just trying to stimulate my mind to see if I could answer them first...this didn't seem to work very well though... ~

Yes, this is very true what you said, "Often the only way to recover the lost energy is to go to sleep for a while." Reikimaster. I wonder why this is as well? How come just by sleeping, one's physical and spiritual energy gets restored to them? Or, does this just happen because we're unconscious of the process of the energy returning to us while we're sleeping, and so whenever we wake up, it's automatically there again? ~

Thanks for sharing what you know with me. ~

Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

Hello to ye there Spike. ~

Yes, but don't overlook the fact that one's headache can also be caused by:

sinus pressure, stress, muscle strain from your neck or back muscles as well as other things.

"I need to learn more about healing, and this sounds like the right place.
Thanks again everyone." Spike

Yes, we all need to learn more about healing, especially the do's and don't's of it! And, I try to provide advice whenever I can, so you're quite welcome. And hey, we're all here to learn, right? ~



Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Reikimaster]

Hello Everyone...
    I am overwhelmed  with this topic and the response of those who can understand the complex nature of healing and the uncharted territory that we sometimes must navigate. It is wonderful to be able to share our experiences of which there is so much to learn. I will admit this topic gives me the opportunity to share my beliefs, blunders and most importantly highly regarded opinions on deep issues , that I would dare approach my teacher with, some of them are doozies.... This is to Blue Light Mystic.... If I had 5 hours I could tell you a wid story of what can go wrong. I have had some very rewarding moments in healing folks and for the life of me can heal a darn thing for my wife without absorbing it myself, I guess I just can't seperate my own emotions. As far as the involenary release of energy I can only guess that if a higher power such as asended Reiki master is using me to chanel healing energy , he calls the shots when the healing process is complete and the link is broken not I. Case two empathy can create a link of it's own , this happens frequently when exposed to personal hardship and sorrow viewing the suffering of others. Case three if you subconciuosly get snagged by psychic parasites this will draw the energy out of your limbs involentarily. The best fix for that is grounding visualization. By the way persistant spirits can and will hang on to energy trails so protect and shield your self before and after .........
                                                      Peace  R M

Reikimaster

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night to ye Reikimaster. ~

~ You said, "... the uncharted territory that we sometimes must navigate." RM.

~ Yes, this is necessary in order to at the very most being able to try doing other methods to accomplish doing anything, including that of healing. One must not overlook other ways that could work or at least try out these ways to see if they'd work or not, because eventually, one of them just might be the ultimate one that's right. ~

"It is wonderful to be able to share our experiences of which there is so much to learn. I will admit this topic gives me the opportunity to share my beliefs, blunders and most importantly highly regarded opinions on deep issues , that I would dare approach my teacher with, some of them are doozies...." RM.

~ Well, isn't that the main purpose of the forums on this site anyway? And yes, it makes me happy too.~

~ Yes, it is a shame one must not be emotional while healing another I guess. I don't really comprehend why that is! I mean, wouldn't being emotional and loving the person you're healing help 'that much more'? I don't really know, I'm not a Reiki Master, that's why I'm asking here.   ~

"As far as the involenary release of energy I can only guess that if a higher power such as asended Reiki master is using me to chanel healing energy , he calls the shots when the healing process is complete and the link is broken not I." RM  I've heard of this from other Reiki Masters before. I believe they said that this was their guide helping assist them with the process of the healing they were doing. Or, the person's only able to accept the amount that they can take in at the time they're given it. Right? This does actually make sense, however, how come a person couldn't just be healed all at once? ~

"Case two empathy can create a link of it's own , this happens frequently when exposed to personal hardship and sorrow viewing the suffering of others." Reikimaster.

~ Yes, this makes sense too as well.  I once heard that feeling a strong enough feeling or emotion can make things happen, especially if it's strong enough or given enough thought power... ~

"Case three if you subconciuosly get snagged by psychic parasites this will draw the energy out of your limbs involentarily. The best fix for that is grounding visualization. By the way persistant spirits can and will hang on to energy trails so protect and shield your self before and after ........." RM

~ Darn parasites. Do they have to exist elsewhere too? As though they couldn't just exist in the physical, they ~have~ to thrive in the astral too...ho hum. The amount of energy produced probably attracts them.  ~

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night all. Just a quick question here. Has anyone ever heard of bonji stones before? Well, some people I know in my family have them. Supposedly, one is a male stone and one is a female stone. They're supposed to absorb one's negativity. You keep them in your pocket with you all day and they keep in effect. One can see the negativity in a physical sense by the amount of strange nodules or square-shaped bumps that form on them after having them for a while. That is pretty neat if you ask me.

Another intriguing fact that I've heard about them is that if one hits both of them together hard enough, they'll explode. Is this because they're opposites or what? That's a bit strange.

Well, just thought that I'd mention them on here, mostly to see if anyone might recognize what I'm talking about. Also, do you really feel as though they've helped you?  Just wondering... ~

Blue Light blessings
from Blue Mystic

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night all. Just wanted to see if anyone's ever heard of this before. I saw and received one sometime this morning, say around 7:15 a.m. Central U.S. time  (10-6-02, Sun). They're called, "negative energy balls." I probably heard this wrong though. These basically can look like anything from a white spherical ball of light or what would look like a sea urchin that lacks all of it's spiny appendages all over it, as in it's bare shell without the spines on it. Maybe I heard this wrong though, maybe they really should be called, positive negative energy ball absorbers instead. The one I had seen looked like the sea urchin's skeletal shell this morning.

Anyway, whenever I was in my late teens, I'd see these balls of light or energy on occasion hanging around me as well in the astral or real-time zone. They were white and I had heard a small chiming noise coming from them. This 'chiming noise' they make probably means that they're taking in, collecting or absorbing negative energy from the person that they're around at the time one hears this chiming. The ones I had seen in my late teens were basically large white spherical balls of light and they appeared to be tumbling around in the area near by me in the astral/real time zone. I very easily was able to see them with astral sight as well as hear them chime. I saw areas of white left on them and they were mostly covered with black energy, which most likely was the negativity they had taken away from me that they collected.

This is really neat! Has anyone ever seen or heard of this before? Balls of white light/energy being sent specifically to help take away one's negative energy? I'd love to hear from someone who's had any kind of similar experience with these before...and, I do thank the special someone who kindly sent one over my way this morning too.  ~

[Blue Light Mystic]

G'day/night all. I'd like to include a place where people who like to heal or send healing energy to others that include Reiki Masters as other kind of healers can gather to ask questions and provide advice to those who want to learn more about healing in general.

Well, here's my first question. I've heard that if one doesn't protect themself by at least using white light before trying to send out healing energy to someone, this may form spiritual 'links' with that person who needs the healing and could also somehow get whatever that particular person has! Is this really true? Could a non-protected person actually get what the person they've sent out healing energy to has get? If so, why? How could this possibly be?