CezylGroup's OBE/Astral Tutorial Pt 1

[cube]

I like the spirit of your ideas but I have to point out that the first two points assume that there's some linear progression in developing skills. There is no such thing, so it's not even possible to say one person is more proficient than another.

Why bother even discussing who is more proficient than another? It seems like an inefficient use of time that could be better spent simply practicing the skills.

[Cezyl]

As I see it for instance, based upon my reading of his material, I can safely say that Robert Bruce is more proficient than me at the skill of out-of-body travel. He can get 'out' in less time, and more consistently and at will. Thus I can work to catch up with him, to motivate me, i.e., work to see the things he describes for myself, or to be able to get 'out' as easily or consistently or at will as he does. I don't try to slow him down, nor do I envy him or maintain jealousy. I encourage him to continue, for it only helps me to see what is possible, and I can be joyful for the success of my fellow being in existence. When one grows, we all grow.

As I see it, in the OBE, just like any other skill, someone can be more or less skillful. Just some ideas that work for me, and may help others too. Thank you for your input cube.

Cezyl

[cube]

Lol, well glad I could help []. I still think that there's really no way to know if someone's caught up with you or now, it's too fuzzy.

Anyway it will be interesting to see how this project develops!

BTW I like things that I can put in my Known bin because they're 100% accruate according to my experience. Here are my astral projection Knowns which you might find useful in the tutorial:

1.) Negs are harmless to humans who are in a postive mindset

2.) When you're in total body sleep paralysis, doing deep breaths will make you OBE 100% of the time

3.) So far the easiest way to OBE for me is to use interrupted sleep by getting up at least 3 hours early, staying awake for one hour (one hour is important), going to sleep, waking in paralysis and projecting.

[Cezyl]

Great input cube. Thank you. It is a stretch to my belief systems the breathing while in paralysis causing OBE. I always relaxed out when getting out from paralysis, usually after or through dreaming.

I'll try this and see what happens. Thank you, for all your help. I'm sure it will help make the Pt 3 tutorial better.

[Saints]

Cezyl,
Thanks for taking up this endevor!
I feel leaders are desparately needed in this area of work.  There is so much to learn, obe techniques to develop, sign-posts to plant, landscapes to map, language to write, physics to interpret, and I believe, a unifying cosmic understanding will emerge from it all.  Leaders are needed to pathfind, to set the bar and encourage the followers.  We the readers(followers)are needed to take up-the challenge, step-up and get off our phobic-lazy-butts and push ours-selves!  
Leaders...Lead on!  
Readers...Go to bed an hour early to prevent falling asleep and practice your relaxation.  If you relax enough; breath well; have desire to AP; are able to concentrate on APing; have a post-AP-separation plan; and are able to stay awake, you will experience AP separation. We're of the earth..but our consciousness is not from the earth.
You are as you breath.
Relax to the point of exhaustion!
Push it...as Bob Monroe says in his tapes "..and for those to follow me..".  
I think that would be....US!!  
Cezyl's initiative is what Monroe is talking about.  Lets get a critical mass going and see what happens!
Thanks!!!

quote:Originally posted by Cezyl

CezylGroup's OBE/Astral Tutorial Pt 1

By Cezyl (DEBJR)



Copyright © 2004 Cezyl (Darryl E. Berry Jr.)


Outlook


-         Help and be helped

-         Love and sharing

-         Cross-comparison

-         Hands-on research and experimentation





The Purpose of this Group


This group is for the purpose of mastering the out-of-body experience. I intend to help everyone to succeed as best I can. I also open to any advice and help you can give to me in my growth to OBE proficiency. This group, the CezylGroup OBE/Astral Training Group, is for the purpose of helping each other grow and evolve along the lines of astral/OBE proficiency.

Within this group is a member who is more proficient than me at the OBE. Within this group is a member who is less proficient than me at the OBE. Within this group there may be one with the same proficiency as me at the OBE. I propose that we do these three things:



1)      Never let those less proficient catch you



I don't mean this in the sense of competition, but in the sense of playful motivation. Those that are less proficient than you, never let them catch you! Why? Because it works hand in hand with number two:



2)      Be sure to catch up with those more proficient than you



Those that are more proficient than you, be sure to catch them! Be sure to catch up with them in skill level and proficiency. This works hand in hand with number three:



3)      Be sure to help everyone, including those more proficient, less proficient, and equal in proficiency, as best you can



Now we have one person who is more proficient, who is practicing and developing his/her hardest so that no one can catch them. A playful race. Then we have someone who is less proficient trying to catch the person that is more proficient. A steady external motivation. Yet we have both people helping the other as much as possible. Even though the less proficient player is trying to catch the more proficient player, the less proficient player helps the more proficient player as much as he/she can. What does this do? It gives the less proficient player more love and goodness in his/her life, as well as even more motivation, like the proverbial horse with the carrot dangling from a stick, egging it on. It keeps going further. Then we have the more proficient one, who though has the goal of never getting caught, helps the less proficient as best as he/she possibly can. This generates more love and goodness in his/her life, as well as providing even more playful motivation. Then everyone evolves, and everyone grows, and this planet, and thus the universe, moves that much faster to the next level and beyond.

I hope for you to see that there is no limit to the levels of development that may be reached, and it does no good to try to hinder anyone. All we do is help ourselves by helping others, for we open a door for ourselves. It's like opening the door before you walk though its threshold. Push those ahead of you on, and let them open the door. Pull those behind you up, and help them get in the door. There is always something both can teach the other, as well as those of equal standing can teach the lateral. There is always growth. Grow, grow, grow...



Then there is the lagniappe number four:



4)      There will always be someone more proficient than you, less proficient than you, and as proficient as you



So there.



___ ___ ___



OBE or the out-of-body experience is the apparent ability of the self (consciousness), with our without a nonphysical vehicle to travel in, to consciously and willfully leave the physical body and travel along without it. Some precursors to this phenomenon are feelings of vibrations, as if the bed is shaking up and down, or your body is vibrating, experiences of being unable to move, called the paralysis, or feelings of falling, or the jerking back of body parts as if a certain body part falls back down. You were either on your way in or out of the body, as this process happens as a natural part of sleep.



Go to Part Two and read about the group exercises, and have fun, help all, and love.



Cezyl


_ _ _



I want to say that I didn't do this myself, nothing I have done. I have had the potent help, assistance, and aid of my friend Manuel, and the ever present help and aid of my guides, including Okanos, and the others who choose to remain nameless, and of course my ever present source self, or higher self, as well as all of you out there who help me, and all of the authors and website holders whose generosity have fueled and nurtured me. Thank you all, and thank you for joining and making this dream come true. Please share this file and the remaining files of this series with as many people as you can.


Cezyl


Questions, comments:


cezyl@cezyl.com

[clandestino]

quote:Lol, well glad I could help . I still think that there's really no way to know if someone's caught up with you or now, it's too fuzzy.

I reckon this can be established....bear in mind that the purpose isn't to "beat" someone else, or "win". Using competition is an effective way of improving skills in every walk of life.

[thelou]

Cube wrote

quote: I like the spirit of your ideas but I have to point out that the first two points assume that there's some linear progression in developing skills. There is no such thing, so it's not even possible to say one person is more proficient than another.

Why bother even discussing who is more proficient than another? It seems like an inefficient use of time that could be better spent simply practicing the skills.

I am sorry cube, but I do not understand what you are saying here.  What do you mean?  There is definitely a linear and measurable progression in skills.  And it is not only possible but completely obvious to anyone that one person can be more proficient than another.

Take any two people, or a group of people.  With any skill you can think of, and you will be able to see that some are more proficient than others.  As kids on the playground race one is faster than the other, as adults with any topic one will always be more proficient than another.  Without this we would all be exactly the same at EVERYTHING.  

As far as discussing it, I do not think that Cezyl is talking about bragging that one person is better than the other.  I think he is talking about one person saying I need help how did you do this and the other person saying I did it this way.  In that aspect talking about it is the most valuable thing that we can do together.  Much more efficient use of time that one person trying to figure it all out by themselves without any help from others.  

Please help me understand your thoughts, and point of view on this.

Thelou

[Cezyl]

Thank you for your understanding Saints, thelou, and clandestino!
[]

[Cezyl]

CezylGroup's OBE/Astral Tutorial Pt 1

By Cezyl (DEBJR)



Copyright © 2004 Cezyl (Darryl E. Berry Jr.)


Outlook


-         Help and be helped

-         Love and sharing

-         Cross-comparison

-         Hands-on research and experimentation





The Purpose of this Group


This group is for the purpose of mastering the out-of-body experience. I intend to help everyone to succeed as best I can. I also open to any advice and help you can give to me in my growth to OBE proficiency. This group, the CezylGroup OBE/Astral Training Group, is for the purpose of helping each other grow and evolve along the lines of astral/OBE proficiency.

Within this group is a member who is more proficient than me at the OBE. Within this group is a member who is less proficient than me at the OBE. Within this group there may be one with the same proficiency as me at the OBE. I propose that we do these three things:



1)      Never let those less proficient catch you



I don't mean this in the sense of competition, but in the sense of playful motivation. Those that are less proficient than you, never let them catch you! Why? Because it works hand in hand with number two:



2)      Be sure to catch up with those more proficient than you



Those that are more proficient than you, be sure to catch them! Be sure to catch up with them in skill level and proficiency. This works hand in hand with number three:



3)      Be sure to help everyone, including those more proficient, less proficient, and equal in proficiency, as best you can



Now we have one person who is more proficient, who is practicing and developing his/her hardest so that no one can catch them. A playful race. Then we have someone who is less proficient trying to catch the person that is more proficient. A steady external motivation. Yet we have both people helping the other as much as possible. Even though the less proficient player is trying to catch the more proficient player, the less proficient player helps the more proficient player as much as he/she can. What does this do? It gives the less proficient player more love and goodness in his/her life, as well as even more motivation, like the proverbial horse with the carrot dangling from a stick, egging it on. It keeps going further. Then we have the more proficient one, who though has the goal of never getting caught, helps the less proficient as best as he/she possibly can. This generates more love and goodness in his/her life, as well as providing even more playful motivation. Then everyone evolves, and everyone grows, and this planet, and thus the universe, moves that much faster to the next level and beyond.

I hope for you to see that there is no limit to the levels of development that may be reached, and it does no good to try to hinder anyone. All we do is help ourselves by helping others, for we open a door for ourselves. It's like opening the door before you walk though its threshold. Push those ahead of you on, and let them open the door. Pull those behind you up, and help them get in the door. There is always something both can teach the other, as well as those of equal standing can teach the lateral. There is always growth. Grow, grow, grow...



Then there is the lagniappe number four:



4)      There will always be someone more proficient than you, less proficient than you, and as proficient as you



So there.



___ ___ ___



OBE or the out-of-body experience is the apparent ability of the self (consciousness), with our without a nonphysical vehicle to travel in, to consciously and willfully leave the physical body and travel along without it. Some precursors to this phenomenon are feelings of vibrations, as if the bed is shaking up and down, or your body is vibrating, experiences of being unable to move, called the paralysis, or feelings of falling, or the jerking back of body parts as if a certain body part falls back down. You were either on your way in or out of the body, as this process happens as a natural part of sleep.



Go to Part Two and read about the group exercises, and have fun, help all, and love.



Cezyl


_ _ _



I want to say that I didn't do this myself, nothing I have done. I have had the potent help, assistance, and aid of my friend Manuel, and the ever present help and aid of my guides, including Okanos, and the others who choose to remain nameless, and of course my ever present source self, or higher self, as well as all of you out there who help me, and all of the authors and website holders whose generosity have fueled and nurtured me. Thank you all, and thank you for joining and making this dream come true. Please share this file and the remaining files of this series with as many people as you can.


Cezyl


Questions, comments:


cezyl@cezyl.com