Astral Entity Encounter...

[Seven]

Really interesting!  Someone mentioned in another post (forget which!) that many of what are said to be demons are in fact abused deities/gods, and that the name Lucifer means "Light Bearer".  I have also heard that there are good demons and bad demons, just as there are good and bad witches (black/white), good and bad angels, etc etc.

The website looks interesting - how did you come across this? Did you know this entity was a demon when you encountered it?  How did you come to look up that particular demon?  I ask out of genuine interest, not questioning you in any way []  Just wondered if you were somehow intuitively directed to this page or whether it took hours upon hours of painstaking surfing!

Hope you meet him again and manage to find out more []

[Joe_Oh]

Well, I didn't know it was a "demon" until I told this to a wiccan friend who I met on an IRC channel several years back. I figured she'd be the best bet on finding out what this entity was. But before I did that, I went to a wiccan chat, told the story, and I got to talking to another witch who insisted it was the Shax, not Paimon. He insisted it a lot it was. But then I told the story to my other wiccan friend and she said he didn't know what he was talking about.

That website has the image of the "Shax" and that outline silouete of what I saw didn't look like the shax.

As far as finding this site, I just searched yahoo.com and seen another astral site, which led to another, then led to this using their forums to find out about this place.

I just wanted to find a site that has a lot of people interested in the subject to better my chances of comming across someone who knew what I was talking about.

As far as that demon list website is concerned. The first guy I talked to, the one who says I seen the shax, gave me the link to that site, And my friend on IRC checked it out for "corruptability" and said it was clean. I'm sure there are many out there who would try to use an experience like this to confuse and covert to the ways of negitivity. Having the ability to disern true intentions are crucial in situations like these. Hear everything, Trust no one until it can be verified either way.

If you need to ask about anything else, feel free. Very little can ever offend me.

[Seven]

I haven't managed to consciously AP/OBE yet, apart from a couple of brief OBEs from LDs where I just stumbled about for a few moments, so I find this wonderfully fascinating!  I can't wait till I can manage to get to a stage where I can experience astral entities and have meaningful experiences.  I know I used to AP/OBE as a child, but these times were most likely from dreams or daydreams, as I thought at the time that they were real life, and kept being told I was imagining things - if only I'd known at the time []

One time, when I was between 5 & 8 years old, I had a frightening experience where 3 or 4 men/entities, dressed in black with top hats, long black coats & long black beards, came to our house and said I had to go away with them.  My mother opened the front door - I had heard the doorbell and come downstairs from my bedroom.  I was standing on the stairs and sensed they meant me harm (empty eyes?), although they spoke politely and reasonably.  My mother told them it was my choice (I said no!) and that I didn't want to go so they had to leave.  I remember turning to go up the stairs and they grabbed hold of me, pulling me by my legs while I was hanging on to the stair-rails for dear life (I presume with their energy), but as I turned round to look back they were still at the door, and at that point I no longer felt them pulling.  Then they went.  The next day my mother said I must have been dreaming - only it felt more real than anything in real life, if you know what I mean (I'm sure you do!).

Anyway, these entities definitely had bad intentions, and this experience has come back to mind more so lately, with my AP practice.

I guess this has had an effect on my subconscious somehow... I desperately want to OBE but it seems that I can get to the relaxed state, even dreaming, while still fully conscious - maybe I do AP but my consciousness stays in the physical and I miss the exit?  I can get to the stage where I feel my body falling asleep, but I'm still stuck in the physical.  If you have any tips for me I'd welcome them! []

Your entity doesn't sound like he means harm - maybe you could try calling him while you're in the astral?  There's another thread about meeting deities in the astral, you might find someone from there can give you some more information: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14433

Please feel free to PM or email me if you like []

[Joe_Oh]

I have been consciously astral projecting for the past 2 or so years, averaging 1-2 per week, but lately the

numbers have been dropping off. The reason may lie in that I'm a little more stressed out with getting my new

business going, finding a part-time job to pay bills until that time, and just trying to get by without work.

Needless to say, stress can and will interfere with obe'ing. but I have been lucky within the past few weeks to

find myself floating around my room then gently getting pulled back into my body then ending up either a

dream, or just unconscious. Shcweet

I don't really have a technique for obe'ing, I just go to sleep, and if the conditions are right, I wake up to a

degree, feel light, and let go. I'm gonna try to get to the point to where I can astral project due to a meditative

state.

Anyhoo, For the real story, and it is quite REAL. I was laying on my bed one night when I woke up enough to

realize my dad was getting home from work. I heard the keys start to rattle the door. I was awake, clear and

conscious. My dad turned on the light in the hallway to get upstairs, but he usually takes his shoes off then,

and then heads upstairs.

As soon as the light was on, I turned my head towards my door and noticed my vision was cloudy but clear. As

I focused on the door I noticed a dark mass start to take focus and swirl into form a shadow "Figure" that

resembled a silouette of someone riding a camel with the rider's head vibrating to the left and right like crazy.

Though I have heard (Cause of shows like Coast To Coast AM) that people have came into contact with shadow

people and for the most part, people are suddenly scared when that happens. During this however, I wasn't

scared one bit. I didn't sense any "evil" from the entity. It was more like, "Whoa and Wow" put together is all

that I felt at the time. Just sheer wonder.

But I knew it was there nonetheless. It walked into my room, started to walk past me, then stopped. It noticed

me noticing it, and we "starred" for a few seconds. Then it continued through the room past me and I assume

through the wall. I tried to look up and follow it but I was trying to control my paralyzed body and when I moved

it, the cloudiness went away and that's when my dad started walking upstairs at that moment and I went back

to sleep.

A few nights later something similar occurred. I woke up to a degree, finding myself in a conversation with

someone else, but no one else was home. I was telling the same story to that "person" that I just told here. He

(It had a male voice) answered back, "yea" and "Uh-huh" whenever I would pause. So I got to the end of the

story, and that's when I heard footsteps in the room heading my direction. This got my attention, but didn't

freak me out.

When the footsteps stopped, I looked up. I saw a tanned male figure, with color and vibrance, But I couldn't

look up enough to see his face. And Like before, everything looked cloudy but clear, just not in focus. I noticed

he had a huge decorated necklace decorated with golden bits and jewels that went down and around his chest.
As my body lay there he was adjusting certain areas on my body like a scientist would adjust knobs on a

control panel. My guess he was aligning my chakras. With me and my constant amateur obe'ing, I guess I

need help keeping my chakras aligned. I'm such a hack

So, For some reason, I wanted to see if this person was really there, so I tried to move my leg. I eventually

did, and I moved it up and over and through the entity. Of course I didn't feel anything since the entity wasn't

physical, but I didn't have the sense to realize it at the time. As I moved my leg towards the entity, it started to

dim and blob out, just before it disappeared the entity almost made face/eye contact with me. then it was gone.

I ended up going back to sleep.

A few months later, It dawned on me to see what exactly had visited me those nights. So I popped on the

internet and found a "Site of demons" Turns out, the creature that had visited me was the most obedient to

Lucifer and has 200 legion of demon under his command. The link to the entity description is below...

http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/mythology/paimon.asp

And sure enough the outling of the creature I saw that night looked exactly like the image on that site. Please

note, I have never EVER seen that image, or it's likeness before in life, or dream. So no need to go there.

Again, I'm not sure if definition of this entity is a fair one here. Man has a way of slanting stories over time and

making the unknown "dark and evil" I dunno. But I keep looking back to what happened that night knowing I

didn't detect one bit of hostility from that entity, But I still respect his power, and his person, and hope to meet

him again soon, perhaps he will want to talk with a lowly mortal such as myself.

It was long, But I hope it was worth it. Anyone else come in contact with such powerful beings?

Thanx-