2 questions about stimulating chakras and energy loss

[Naiad780]

Two questions:
1)  Is there any reason not to directly stimulate your chakras, i.e. bringing the energy directly into the chakra rather than through your feet or hands first?  When I am able to do it this way, it feels much more intense and is extremely easy to work with.

2)  Last night I was doing this and got some wonderful energy.  I mean really, I felt like I was overflowing with this and was just starting some healing work when I heard rapid-fire gunshots next door.   I grew worried, of course, and all the energy I raised fled.  Where exactly did it go?  Did it disperse into the atmosphere around me?

[Manix]

My understanding of energy raising is VERY limited, but is it possible it was simply converted/focused  into a more negative feeling at the sound of the shots?

Rapid fire gunshots would be enough to worry anyone! Did you discover the cuase?

[Naiad780]

My understanding of energy raising is VERY limited, but is it possible it was simply converted/focused  into a more negative feeling at the sound of the shots?

Perhaps.  I'm not really sure.  Even though I was very worried, the intensity of the worry was not equal to the intensity of the energy I was feeling prior to that.

Rapid fire gunshots would be enough to worry anyone! Did you discover the cuase?[/quote]

No, but I don't really need to.  Someone did another drive-by on the little gangbangers next door.  Luckily this doesn't happen often, but just enough to make me count up the months until my lease is done.

[daem0n]

ok, the energy spread into the enviroment around you when you lost focus
secondly, you can draw energy through any body part, and working on hands and feets is equally important as working on chakras, NEW is only a starter and should be abandoned asap, we started out at the same time didn't we ?
if i remember correctly that is...
when you mentioned it drawing energy only through hands and feets is a waste of time , you have to draw in with the whole of you, check initiation into hermetics for that, for example that is
balance balance balance

[Rastus]

I use different techniques depending on time avaialble.

1)  Meditate and warm up a little.  Open you Chakras, then bring down cosmic/solar/space energy into your Crown Chakra.  At the same time bring Earth energy up through your Root.  This is best done outside in barefeet, but can work inside the house if you can make the mental connections.  You project energy out of whatever Chakra is best (heart for healing) in the appropriate color/vibration/frequency needed.

2)  Instead of absorbing energy from another source, create your own.  This is called tapping the 'Cosmic Lattice'.  Being well grounded always helps.  Techniques vary, but basically you reach out to the lattice and pull energy in.  You can visualise a faucet or spigot and pull the energy directly down through your Crown Chakra and then into your other Chakras, then project it as usual.

[Naiad780]

secondly, you can draw energy through any body part, and working on hands and feets is equally important as working on chakras, NEW is only a starter and should be abandoned asap, we started out at the same time didn't we ?

No, I think you started before me.  Well actually, I got Astral Dynamics three years ago but never did the exercises till recently.  I'm still only about 2/3 of the way through.

when you mentioned it drawing energy only through hands and feets is a waste of time , you have to draw in with the whole of you, check initiation into hermetics for that, for example that is
balance balance balance

I do have some stuff on hermetics--I'll check it out, thanks.

[Naiad780]

Rastus, I think I must be doing your second technique when I stimulate the chakras directly.   It's not coming from the earth or sky, it's just ... there.  Around me.  I just pull it in.

[daem0n]

it's different, you're tapping the energy from the immediate environment, watch out for people, animals, plants, everything
when i am with my friend it always "pisses me off" when he starts "magic", becouse he sucks in and i have to revamp what he had taken from me, another time he sucked one non to a state of deep sleep
use the sun, or earth, she is willing to give and it is infinite source (at least in this scale)

as for time, i started few days prior to joining this forums (kindergarden ), so it would be end of june, from complete 0, i guess it depends on intent and focus

i'm not familiar with any books of robert bruce, only internet articles, and i don't view AP as something neccessary in the beggining, it really doesn't help, only confuses

[daem0n]

if your goal is to move beyond all limitations, that is
power without goal/intent is not only useless, it's dangerous
ego trips and power freaking is limitation too, mind you

[Naiad780]

it's different, you're tapping the energy from the immediate environment, watch out for people, animals, plants, everything

Actually I disagree because of the meditation I do while I do this.  The meditation does tap into Cosmic consciousness, or at least that's the point of the meditation.  I have not tried this direct stimulation technique using the sun or earth, though, which is something I'd like to try.

as for time, i started few days prior to joining this forums (kindergarden ), so it would be end of june, from complete 0, i guess it depends on intent and focus

Yes, it really does!  I've been working on AP/meditation for the past 8 years, actually, but only recently have I decided to stop dabbling halfheartedly and really get serious about it.  That decision has made all the difference in my progress.  Before, I just sort of expected something to happen because I wanted it to.  Now I know that it takes practice and work.

i'm not familiar with any books of robert bruce, only internet articles, and i don't view AP as something neccessary in the beggining, it really doesn't help, only confuses

That's an interesting perspective.  Do you mean general spiritual development by "the beginning?"  I think the first step anyone should take is meditation, proper nutrition, and writing about or contemplating their beliefs, goals, and motivations.  You can't really begin on a path until you know what to work for and why.  I suppose if you jumped immediately into AP, it could be confusing for some people.

BTW, I'm not sure what your second post is referring to.

[Rastus]

I know the difference between pulling in Ambient Energies and tapping the Cosmic Lattice.   Ambient energies come in like a sponge.  Tapping the Lattice requires effort of mind, to reach out and twist the veil to cause an imbalance that lets energy in.  The upside is the rift is self healing, stop focusing and the energies stop as the veil corrects itself.  The end result is you raise the ambient energy level on the earth, instead of just creating more highs and lows by pushing around what's there.

[Naiad780]

Rastus, when you put it like that, perhaps I'm not doing this after all.  I am never creating a rift that I know of so perhaps it's something else.

[Rastus]

Try this.  Reach out with your mind.  Picture whatever form your comfortable with, blackness, starfield, geometric symbol, doesn't really matter.  Know it as a symbol.  Know that it is your symbol for the Cosmic Lattice.  Now picture energy coming from the symbol into your Crown Chakra.  Know it is from the Lattice.  Give you Intent that the energy come from the Lattice.  Know that it will do what ever you need energy for, then ground out into the Earth and there add to the Ambient energy level.  Depending on your Intent, you can co-create this way.  You can meditate this way, just ground yourself and let the energy flow through you into the earth.  Novel concept putting good/high energy into the earth, eh?  If you are spiritual, give your Intent that Gaia can use the energy as she sees fit.

[Naiad780]

Sounds similar to the cosmic grid I send my sigils out to.  Never thought to try and use the grid energy.  I'll give it a shot, thanks.  But where is the rift that you were talking about?

[daem0n]

you create a rift, if i understood correctly
quite interesting technique to use, cosmic lattice is the fabric of reality/cosmic laylines ?
i was reffering to ascension, and beyond, but this could be applied to any spiritual path
most people go to metaphysics as means of escaping the reality, in one way or the other
i don't know what my original motive was, it was prearranged by dozens of "coincidences", and i didn't know why i was doing this, really, it was something of returning home, finding missing pieces, nostalgy

why do  send sigils to cosmic grid ?, you mean standard chaos magic ?
what is your definition of cosmic grid ?
heh, i 'm missing a picture here, but filling it right now

[Naiad780]

i don't know what my original motive was, it was prearranged by dozens of "coincidences", and i didn't know why i was doing this, really, it was something of returning home, finding missing pieces, nostalgy

I think those are are good reasons.  you want to understand the world we live in, and traditional education only gives us the scientific (or religious) side of the story.

why do  send sigils to cosmic grid ?, you mean standard chaos magic ?

This is the way I was taught.  It's a visual to focus on of throwing the sigil out to the universe for processing.  Works for me.  Cosmic grid, for me= basic structure of the universe and its reality.  The grid is just a good way for me to picture it in my mind.  I don't know if I would call it standard chaos magic, since when is chaos magic ever standard, but sigils are a common technique in the field.

[Rastus]

Chaos magic is a lable.

The Cosmic Lattic is what the universe sits on.  That's one way to think of it.  It's everywhere, so you don't have to reach far to access it.  It's more complicated than that, but it doesn't affect using it for energy.

IT's simply a tremendous energy reserve in balance.  The net is zero so you don't notice anything.  Only when you unbalance it does the potential exist exist and energy flow.  Eventually there will be ways to do this mechanically....

[daem0n]

yeah, semantics all over the place
i tried it, even a symbol of it popped out of my mind, and its pretty useful
chaos magic is a label, but i was first introduced to sigils in chaos magic, they are of course all over the place
about cosmic lattice, it's more economical to draw not only through crown chakra, but with whole body
hmm, by mechanical you mean steady flow, i try with spinning the symbol (i tap by turning it by 90, see if it works if spin continuously)