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[Dae]

Hi everyone,
    I'm dae and very new to the forum. I was very lucky as a child/teen/young adult.  I took my ability to project for granted, and never thought I would have to literally learn how to do it. In my youth, I literally could not stay in my body, and have had so many Obe's, it's next to uncountable. Today, as a grown woman, I find I cannot project at will anymore, and my astral body slipping out even against my will, does not happen. I'm limited to, as it seems, roughly 3 Obe's a year. Can anyone explain why this has happened, and how I can get my old ability back.
                Yearning to be free again,
                                                    Dae

[clandestino]

Hi Dae, welcome to the forum !

I'm going to throw in my 2pence worth of speculation here !  

Could it be because :
1) as we mature mentally, our focus is held more firmly on the physical world instead of the non-physical ? We slowly lose the "eyes of a child" & begin to concentrate more on adult matters.
2) we go through puberty, & a change takes place (maybe not in all individuals) that reduces our ability to have frequent OBEs ?

just a bit of guesswork from me !  Hopefully a few other members will chime in with something a bit better !!

kind regards
Mark

[Dae]

Hi Mark,
       Thanks for your input. I would readily accept puberty as plausible, but for me, puberty acted as an accelerator..throwing me into more of a disarray of daily Obe's..this lasted from 12-25. I was wondering if toxins in the body could prevent Obe's. For whatever reason, purification has been on my mind as of late..to engage it all again..any thoughts? Dae

[Sam]

I remember being able to project regularly as a child, and the main thing that stopped that ability in its tracks was issues in the so called real world taking over much of my thought time, things like bills and not having enough money and worrying about everything.  Worrying about not being able to OBE is another thing that adds to the collection of blockages that need to be dealt with before OBE's can be able to freely occur again.  Thats my experience and 2 cents worth, hopefully of some use.  

Basically that can be summed up with clandestino's two points, for me growing up involved being put under a lot of pressure which kick started the worry mechanisms, and whether or not it was puberty and chemical changes or if it was just adult expectations beginning to penetrate my mind that caused the reduced ability, I'm not entirely sure...  But there are a lot of adults that can OBE, all of whom have presumably gone thru puberty at some stage, which makes me think that its probably the pressure to grow up and worry more about things in the real world that interferes with your mind's natural ability to relax and let go.

[manuel]

hello dae, may i ask, how often do you try to project a week as they say?

[Dae]

Hi Manuel,
        I still try at a minimum, once a week. i'm very good at relaxing, meditating, and moving my energy around, and even have some success at getting my energy to exit to a point, but there seems to be something which feels like hooks preventing my from following all the way through to my destination point. I'm just trying to figure out what this grappling effect by my body is caused by, as a youth, exiting was a breeze. Thanks for all of your help and input, everyone on this board, I greatly appreciate it , Dae

"Til you find you're here..with nothing to fear, you, catch a dream"

[Jeff_Mash]

I definitely second the motion that 'life' seems to hamper our OBE projections.....that is, the daily hussle and bustle of being an adult.

When I was in my mid-20's and still living at home, I had a bunch of projections....perhaps 2 a week.

Then when I got married and lived with my wife in our house, my projections almost became non-existent.  Not only did I have to deal with someone else in the bed, but I had to put up with the occassional, out of control snoring that came from her throat.  Talk about distracting!

Now that my firstborn child has been born recently, I decided to take one month off from work.....and in this time, I am having projections almost every single night.....very controlled projections.

I think this has to do with a couple of things:

1) The wife is no longer pregnant, and able to lie on her stomach which reduces the chances of snoring

2) The time off work has relieved any stress I may have had

3) The crying baby has woken me up a few times in the night, perhaps keeping me closer to a pre-projection mindset.

Whatever the case, from my own experience, my projections have always been hampered by the constant focus of the physical cares of this world.  I think yours may be due to the same thing.  However, by becoming a regular reader of this forum, you're going in the right direction to take back control of these OBE's and start to acclimate your mind into having them again.

I look forward to reading more from you, Dae!

[manuel]

Make note to self :do not have kids and wife  

[Jacques Vabre]

Hi Dae,

This is pure speculation from my part but I think that the reason people have more difficulty projecting past a certain age is because after one becomes 21 years old, the etheric, astral and mental bodies are supposedly completely formed, and the connection between each of the bodies is not as elastic as when younger.

From my limited understanding, the nature of the connection between the different bodies is electromagnetic: like three magnets combined together the physical, astral and mental bodies attract each other and even a strong will cannot untie them from one another. The only way to loosen the astral body from the physical is to neutralize the magnetic polarities which attract the two bodies.

And how do you do this?? Well the cause of this magnetic pull appears to be the negative/imbalanced emotions which polarize negatively the astral body. So the only way to negate the pull is like you said, "purification": you have to clean up your psyche from all the negative emotions, the fears, the various character flaws that you harbor, the negative thoughts etc etc...

One effective way to do this is through the book Initiation Into Hermetics by Franz Bardon. Among other things, this writer teaches one to attain the astral and mental equilibrium which facilitates astral and mental wandering.

Anyway, here are my 2 euros on the whole thing. I know it sounds a bit circonvoluted but that's the most logical explanation I can think of.

Ciao,
JV

[Dae]

Merci bien Jacques,
          What you said makes perfect sense to me, and ties in bits and pieces of what everyone else has said. You all have been so helpful, I am truly grateful for this board. I look forward to sharing my past experiences, along with my new ones that I know will come.  Dae

[clandestino]

Make note to self :do not have kids and wife

[Dae]