"Out Of It" During OBEs

[kerbe6]

Hello all

Last night I had my fourth OBE.  That's swell, but I've noticed something that occurs in all of my OBEs so far.  When I'm projecting, I always seem to be very "out of it".  I don't think like I usually do, and my logic and reasoning is all messed up.  Important thoughts seem to fly away, and goals are not met.  It feels like a whole other person is in control of my body.

During an OBE I don't notice this difference in thinking; it all seems normal.  However, when I "wake up" and remember the experience, I can't believe how little control I seem to have over what happens in the OBE.

I just wish I could think "normally" when I am out of body so I can get some stuff done that I've been wanting to do.

For some reason, I'm thinking that the darkness in my OBEs have something to do with my changed thinking (so far every projection has been at night time, and it's been dark).

Is this a normal thing that happens to everyone?  Will I be able to change it?  Any suggestions?  Any input is greatly appreciated, as this really seems to be holding me back.  

Peace
Brandon

[Jeff_Mash]

Last night I had my fourth OBE.  That's swell, but I've noticed something that occurs in all of my OBEs so far.  When I'm projecting, I always seem to be very "out of it".  I don't think like I usually do, and my logic and reasoning is all messed up.  Important thoughts seem to fly away, and goals are not met.  It feels like a whole other person is in control of my body.

This is quite normal.  It takes a little practice and trial and error to find the best way to maintain control and lucidity.  With each projection, you will find yourself naturally taking further baby steps forward......making necessary changes and trying different things to maintain control.

During an OBE I don't notice this difference in thinking; it all seems normal.  However, when I "wake up" and remember the experience, I can't believe how little control I seem to have over what happens in the OBE.

Yes, wonderful ain't it?  It's amazing how natural and real things seem in that environment, but when you come back, all you have is the MEMORY of the experience, making it no different than, say, a dream.  The only difference is that you were completely conscious DURING the experience, unlike dreams where you are only aware of their content afterwards.  But both experiences leave you with only memories to show for their existence.

About control, this will come with time, as you progress.  It doesn't even have to be a long, drawn out thing.  You may find that your OBE #5 is totally 100% controllable.  But then #6 may be uncontrollable.  It's all a process that we go through.

I just wish I could think "normally" when I am out of body so I can get some stuff done that I've been wanting to do.

Yeah, I'm the same way.  "The next time I'm out, I'm going to seek out a guide.  Or I will visit my deceased grandmother."  Then I roll out of bed, walk outside, and go, "Hey look!  A tree!"  And then I become fascinated with some trivial thing like touching its bark or flying around it.  Silly, but very common.

For some reason, I'm thinking that the darkness in my OBEs have something to do with my changed thinking (so far every projection has been at night time, and it's been dark).

This may or may not be the case.  For me, it's usually dark because I project mostly in the early hours of the night, and subconsciously, I think my mind makes things dark.  But things are very fluid in this environment.  You will have projections where you will see dark when it's completely daylight outside, and vice versa.

Is this a normal thing that happens to everyone?  Will I be able to change it?  Any suggestions?  Any input is greatly appreciated, as this really seems to be holding me back.  

I hope I helped you somewhat.  It sounds like you're on the right track, Brandon.

[kerbe6]

It's amazing how natural and real things seem in that environment, but when you come back, all you have is the MEMORY of the experience, making it no different than, say, a dream.

Man, that's definitely one of the things that bothers me most about OBEs.  It all seems like a dream afterwords, and the only proof I have is that my memory tells me that while I was in the OBE, I knew it was real!!

I hope I helped you somewhat. It sounds like you're on the right track, Brandon.

You most certainly did help me...I'm glad things wont always be this way!  Thanks for the reply.  

Peace
Brandon

[Nostic]

I totally understand what you're talking about Brandon. By now I've had a lot (but not a HUGE amount) of OBE's. When you said that you're almost like a different person, that hit the nail right on the head! It can be very frustrating, because when you're back in your physical body, you think about all the things you could, or should have done. And even worse, you can't just leave your body again whenever you want. It's like the experience is controlling you, and not the other way around. This is what I'm working on right now- trying to have the experience at will, and trying to have total control of it. I assume it all comes with practice.

[kerbe6]

Hi Nostic!

This is great that there are others that understand what's goin' on...I found it quite hard to describe.

It's like the experience is controlling you, and not the other way around.

That is exactly what I was trying to say the whole time! Haha..

Well good luck with your experiences..keep us updated  

Peace
Brandon

[Naiad780]

Brandon,

I haven't had OBEs (none beyond a few seconds, anyway), but I do have lucid dreams a lot and I have the same problem.  One thing I've drilled into my own head is to shout "Increase Mental Clarity!" as soon as I become conscious in the dream.  It works really well for me--wakes me up even more.

kj