Astral polarity of the sexes

[Tom]

In eastern traditions, women are considered to be active and powerful. Kundalini at one end of the spine, and Shiva at the other. Shiva is credited with wisdom, but by himself he cannot even move.

In Taoism, isn't the goal to combine male and female aspects of the same person, rather than seeking completion by pairing up whole people?

[Mathias Jonsson]

Yes, I think that esotericism largely strives for a androgyny, the alchemical pairing of Sulphur/The King and Quicksilver/The Queen results in the hermaphrodite, which essentially is the reborn adept.

Tantricism is quite unique in it´s emphasis on the female importance, also in Ancient Egypt the female role was a very important one in the funerary cult, in the role of priestesses of Hathor.

Egypt has interesting pairings of Passive god/Active goddess, in the pairs Osiris/Isis, Ptah/Sekhmet.
The Uraeus of the king was also a personified  goddess, that defended him symbolically, and the temples were seen as goddesses, where the cosmos was re-created( in the inner sanctuary).

Also the merging of Re and Osiris is expressed in a sexual symbolism, as Osiris takes the role of an  Underworld room which Re has to enter to partake of Osiris´re-birth energies, so that Re can be reborn at the sunrise.

[clandestino]

This subject brings to mind Monroe's accounts of OBE sex.

He makes clear reference to a type of polarity between the sexes. One instance he relates tells of him standing in a clearing, with a group of women (and men) who each had a sexual "exchange" with him, one by one. The exchange was not physical, but seemed like a charge of energy passing between the two.

He also relates the sexual urge in the astral to being somewhat akin to magnetism....just as the N pole is attracted to the S pole on a magnet, so are the two sexes attracted to each other out of necessity.

Perhaps physical sex is a reflection of the spiritual need to complete the type of union described in Tom's post ?

[Mathias Jonsson]

Certainly he has a point there!
Astral sex is probably similar in polarity, though those experienced say it´s more intense and more of an enery exchange between individuals and individuals and other astral beings.

Some claim to have had astral sex with dragons, and there are probably such ties in some of the shamanic practices, i think Frater U:D: in his excellent book SECRETS OF SEXUAL MAGIC mentions this.

[Donna]

quote:Originally posted by Mathias Jonsson:
Certainly he has a point there!
Astral sex is probably similar in polarity, though those experienced say it´s more intense and more of an enery exchange between individuals and individuals and other astral beings.

Some claim to have had astral sex with dragons, and there are probably such ties in some of the shamanic practices, i think Frater U:D: in his excellent book SECRETS OF SEXUAL MAGIC mentions this.

Hi,
It would seem that since Sophia, the second being to come forth from the Prime Creator in the beginning of physicality, being female caused our own prediciment, it might help to go back and get some basics on our soul progression since then.
I am referring to the information avalable in the Nag Hammadi Library. These writings were discovered in the 40s' in Saudi Arabia. They are mostly a record of the teachings of Jesus directly and in private to his disciples. They clear up sooooo much. Have some patience in studying them, as large portions are missing, but the diciples Apocalypese's are (for me) very understandable and plain.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

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Donna

[Mathias Jonsson]

Hello Donna!

I agree with you on the importance of the gnostics and the Nag Hammadi library, Jung as you know were very influenced by the gnostics and therefore parts of Nag hammadi were once entitled the Jung codex.

I have the Nag hammadi library book edited by James Robinson (I think), also as I´m studying Egyptology at Uppsala University with the goal of a Ph.D. in the not too distant future , I want to learn Coptic so that I can study these texts in their original language.

Regards

Mathias

[Donna]

quote:Originally posted by Mathias Jonsson:
Hello Donna!

I agree with you on the importance of the gnostics and the Nag Hammadi library, Jung as you know were very influenced by the gnostics and therefore parts of Nag hammadi were once entitled the Jung codex.

I have the Nag hammadi library book edited by James Robinson (I think), also as I´m studying Egyptology at Uppsala University with the goal of a Ph.D. in the not too distant future , I want to learn Coptic so that I can study these texts in their original language.

Regards

Mathias

Hello Mathias,
Yes, I do seem to remember that there was a relationship with Jung and the Nag Hammadi writhings.
Considering your honorable goals perhaps you are the one I need to ask this of. Do you know where the best English translation for the Dead Sea Scrolls could be purchased, or by which author I should expect the best translation. I have been waiting a long time for them to made available to the public.
Donna

[Mathias Jonsson]

Hello!

No,sorry I can´t tell you about which Dead Sea Scroll translation to recommend. Maybe someone else here can?

Regards

Mathias

[Mathias Jonsson]

In these days of gender perspective, I´d like to adress the subject of gender in terms of astral polarity.
Men and women are quite different in astral polarity, in short:
Men are positive+/electric/solar in their auras, whereas women are negative-/magnetic/lunar.
This brings also the perspective of archetypal associations:

MEN: Primary Planetary influence Jupiter/Sol (the two are much alike), Mars.
WOMEN: Primary Planetary influence Luna, Venus, Saturn.

Archetypically (using the term from famous psychologist C.G. Jung) women as a gender primarily echo the archetypal images of the Maiden/huntress, The Priestess, and The Crone/wisewoman.
Whereas men echo the archetypal images of the Warrior, The Priest-King and the Eternal child.

The structural gender problems in my opinion are likely to be part of a far-echo of  archetypal patterns that culturally have been unconsciuosly inherited models of identification, through "The Collective Unconscious".

To return to the discussion on astral polarity, men and women are mirrors of each other, men being electric in their outer being (outer aura) and women magnetic, thus both sexes have a need to share in each other´s energies, which might be on many levels.

The famous occultist Dion Fortune have discussed this toipc in one of her books, where she stated that women lack electro-magentism and thus they need a positive relationship to the other sex, whereas men have a physical need of women. Many feminists will probably throw up in disgust at this statement, but it do indeed give indications on why a physically abused woman may stay in a destructive relationship, she has somehow attuned herself to her man´s auric pattern.

This subject also involves the question of uncounscious energy vampirism, do men and women absorb, to the level of becoming addicted, certain astral energies of their partner.For instance, regular coitus means a harmonised energy exchange, but oralpleasuring by either of the partners, probably means that one loses energy to the other, unless they pleasure each other at the same time.

Of course this subject is a very complex one with many layers as it involves psychological  and elementary influences as well, and the psychological  influences or patterns that the astrological aspects indicate, a hard aspect such as a opposition or sqare between important planets may have profound influence for the auric make-up of an individual of either sex and his /her relationship to another person of the opposite sex.

I may have made several over-simplificactions here, and apologise if so, but this topic is an important one indeed.