Silva medtitation method

[don't_know_mind]

I just read José Silvas "The Silva Mind Control Method". I found it educative, and the meditationtechniques seems very good. But here's just a little annoyement. What takes about 48 hours to learn at a course, takes quite some weeks to do by yourself.
Especially the meditation technique. And since I have practised meditation earlier I think it is a bit unnecessary for me to practise some of the training.

So I wonder:
Is there anyone here who is a mind control graduate?
and
What is the quicker and more effective way of meditating thought on seminars?

Everywhere I read about Silva's meditation method they speak of the "slower" way than that thought by instructors  

[Banjoshee]

I'd be curious to know too. I've only every read the books.  Though that was years ago, and so the method is just part of me now. So great.

[don't_know_mind]

Yeah, i can imagine... Did you do the whole thing as he says? I mean, how many weeks did it take you to learn?

[Banjoshee]

Well, I've just been re-reading his books lately. First read them, oh, about 18 years ago. I wish I'd done everything in them then! I came across the studying for school section and thought, Man! That sure would have helped when I went back to school...ah well.

What I really practiced 18 years ago was learning how to drop into alpha at will. I used this to be able to drop off to sleep at will. Funny thing is just by learning this, I realize how much easier everything else of this nature is for me to learn and do because I have subconsciously applied Silva's techniques to everything in my life.

Means all those practices I never did do in the book are now very easy for me to get the knack of. No 40 days needed.

I particularly like his book _You the Healer_, which I never read before a month ago, and have been working with a number of the methods in this book to good effect.

So go to town! Great stuff. But only go as much as you're happy and willing to do. You'll still gain greatly, no matter.

[don't_know_mind]

All right. This seems very good to me

But hey, do you remember how you learned to drop into alpha? Did you use 100-1 and so on or a shorter version?

Man, I'm just 16 years old, but I have some experience in meditating since before, so I suppose I'm quite used to alpha It's a bit hard for me to tell when I'm there and not. I seem to slip in and out, but I suppose I can practice this away.

Thanks for your answers

[Banjoshee]

If you've meditated before you can likely go less than 100 to 1. Experiment and go with the number that feels "right" so you can ease into alpha without stress.

Ha, how true. Focus is a big thing. Maintaining a calm relaxed focus can help you to stay in alpha.

You're the perfect age to learn. It's so great you can start now with such simple, easy, effective techniques that'll bring you many benefits over your lifetime.

[don't_know_mind]

Okay, I thank you for your nice answers
It's good to know that someone else out there has actually succeeded this

[Tom]

The question of "am I in alpha yet?" is very common. Thinking about it too much is a beta wave type activity. I needed a way to be sure, so I began using a theta binaural while practicing the Silva Method initially. You can use suggestions every time you go to level to make the next time faster, easier, and deeper than ever before. It is also convenient to suggest that using a hand gesture like touching the tip of the thumb to the tip of the index finger (same hand) will immediately bring you to level. The Silva Method material I used suggested working toward theta rather than alpha so that the tendency to think while at level will only bring the experience up to alpha rather than back to beta. Staying just at alpha works, but it is too easy to slip all the way to beta. Like I said, it is important for me to be sure of myself.

[don't_know_mind]

OK, so the thing is to set the goal to a deeper level to prevent thoughts that take you back to alpha?
By the way, you can apply this method to other types of meditation, right? Like if I'm mantra meditating, I can use some affirmations to make it easier for me to come back. This seems like a fair idea to me. Though I understand the vitality of always doing it in the same way.

[don't_know_mind]

Sorry   in the first sentence i meant beta  

[Tom]

If you can get back into a specific state or level faster, you can spend more of your time deepening it. Then you can use that stronger positive state as a target to get back to that point more easily next time. You can do this with any specific state, by associating things with it.

[GoldShoes]

I'm a graduate of  Silva Mind Control.  Having gone through it three times, I can testify that it works.

[don't_know_mind]

Nice then what's the fast way they teach meditation/ reaching alpha.

[don't_know_mind]

question mark to that

[GoldShoes]

That's easy.

Take a breath and imagine you see the number 3, three times.  Do the same for 2 and 1.
Next, take another  breath and imagine 10-9-8---another breath and down 7-6-5----another breath down to one.
I failed to say don't hold the breath but exhale each time.
At the alpha level you can name a person and their location and be able to diagose and heal.

At this level you may see hypnagogic  images which can represent something significant. At one point I clearly  had a bit of precognition of a murder.  I saw the victim but not the person who did this brutal thing.

There is a little machine you can rest you hand on to know if you have reached alpha.  I'm not sure if you can still purchase it. Psychotherapists use it.

Good luck.  Hope I helped.

[GoldShoes]

P.S.  I forgot to say, I believe one has to reach the theta level and hold it there while looking behind the eyes as they are closed to receive the images.  It's very deep relaxation.  Just don't go to Delta or I think you wil be asleep.

[don't_know_mind]

Thanks really.. it is that easy I'll definitely try this.
And you just do this every time you wish to go to deeper levels of consciousness?

[don't_know_mind]

And yes: Sure you don't' know anything else about that little machine? Do you know where to look?

[Tom]

That's why I learned the Silva Method by using a theta binaural. You can give yourself suggestions while at level to make it faster and easier to go to level the next time. There was even a technique as part of the Silva Method so that after going to level becomes familiar, it can be used to go (almost) instantly to level.

[Banjoshee]

It is quite amazing how well Silva's methods work.

[GoldShoes]

Hi Gang,

It was several years ago that I took the Silva Method  I purchased the device from them.  However, I worked with a fellow psychotherapist that used it.  If I locate a place to purchase one, I'll report.

Yes, it's that easy.  As your brain waves change the machine beeps  slower and slower.

Tilt your head to a 45 degree angle. That may put you at alpha.

Cheers,
Gold Shoes

[Potential]

Hi Gang,

It was several years ago that I took the Silva Method  I purchased the device from them.  However, I worked with a fellow psychotherapist that used it.  If I locate a place to purchase one, I'll report.

Yes, it's that easy.  As your brain waves change the machine beeps  slower and slower.

Tilt your head to a 45 degree angle. That may put you at alpha.

Cheers,
Gold Shoes

Interesting, tilting the head to 45 degrees induces alpha state, where did you get this information? I would like to see it. I read somewhere that one of the Egyptian gods(I think Osiris) used to lie on an incline of 37 degrees to project into the spirit world.

[GoldShoes]

That's interesting  about the Egyptian gods.

The 45 degree info came during one of the lectures of the Silva  Method.

[don't_know_mind]

In the book "The Silva mind control method" it says that you're supposed to roll the eyes backwards in a 45 degree angle, behind one's closed eyelids. They don't know why, exactly, but this method makes it easier to enter your level.

[Serapis]

When you lay down and close your eyes, they naturally roll up into your head. When sitting up, if you roll your eyes up into your head, it will induce progressively lowered states. I learned that about 10 years ago in a hypnosis course I took.