Proof

[tro-flow]

There is great blocking for a lot of people here.
Too many people are still trying to proof the fact that there is more than meets the eye, that there are energies that can be formed and used for waht goal ever. Allmost everyone learning about energies will have someone around that does know about, what makes you anxious to convince that person. The only reason that people try to convince another person is because there still doubting themselves.
Do you believe seeing auras is natural thing? Do you believe people are able to fly and make energy balls and tell the future? Yes?
Then don't bother to convince some that doesn't because it will only be put you out of ease and you will not be able to focus on your own path enough. Get my point?

[CaCoDeMoN]

You are right, but what about searching for proof for yourself? This is surely useful.

[Allseeingeyes]

I dont really feel the need to prove anything to anyone, because the people I like to surround myself with are already aware of this stuff.

[CaCoDeMoN]

I dont really feel the need to prove anything to anyone, because the people I like to surround myself with are already aware of this stuff.

For me it doesn't matter if a person is sprirtual or not.

[Nostic]

Trying to convince others of something is often an exercise in frustration. In fact, the harder you try to convince, the more the other person will want to disagree with you. They'll want to disagree with you just out of spite  

It's the rare person that will say, especially after a long argument, "ya know, you were right all along. I take back everything I said. You've convinced me".

But then, you've got to ask yourself, why is it so important to me that I convince this other person that I'm right? Do I even believe what I'm saying? Or am I trying to convince myself as well?

[karnautrahl]

Your right Nostic with that point.

It's the rare person that will say, especially after a long argument, "ya know, you were right all along. I take back everything I said. You've convinced me".

I have to remember this point you've made, because I've been guilty of this when I've been explaining healing and chi work.
There is something that certainly grates on me when some heavy skeptic tries to convince me however that I'm mistaken when I explain about moving chi. This for me is where "proving" stuff comes in. I get very frustrated with someone I'm convinced is a narrow minded idiot . So ego comes out to play and try and knock him back.
The majority of the time the skeptic is not going to admit he was wrong when I demonstrate healing. I've had one skeptic do an about face in the end. Out of many. The others  well after a demo they still stick to their position but the discussion finishes quickly.
People are simply comfortable to live within certain mindsets perhaps.

I don't feel afraid to find out there's a real spiritual reality out there myself, yet nothing I do proves it to me at this time. Apart from the energy work. I'm starting to think that perhaps for some silly reason I've chosen to live a life blind to greater reality, and that the energy awareness was sheer chance. who knows.

[You]

If you can't prove to non-spiritualists that some parts are real, you should be doubting your own perceptions and the perceptions or motives of those 'spirituals' you associate with. Remain sane and grounded in reality.

Doubt is not a barrier, it is not a tool. I would rather learn in 10x the length than never doubt anything.

[karnautrahl]

There is doubt as a philosophy, and there is there doubt for good reason perhaps. The former tends to be simply dogmatic and nothing can change it. This form is totally and utterly useless IMHO.
The latter (reasoned doubt, open minded skeptism) is a tool, it is the sign of a healthy questioning mind that will not take anything on face value, but it's not automatic disbelief OR automatic belief. It's the middle ground if you like. If something comes along like some new phenomena, you can choose to be interested enough to decide that you want to question it. This questioning may lead to you needing to sway a little one way or the other but generally an open minded skeptic would be in the middle until something he/she experiences makes up their mind for them. Proving something is fake perhaps, experiencing something is real perhaps.

The philosophy of doubt is a bit different, (my definitions aren't great perhaps-just my perceptions). This is the Randi style form of "everything paranormal is fake". This is sitting firmly on the disbelief at all costs side of the fence. I'd hate to have that sort of person as a judge in court.