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blull

Since I started APing about 5 months ago, I have had a very good many OBEs.  All of them, from waking up early in the morning, and projecting while I am still half asleep (but awake enough to look at the clock, and decide to try and fall through my bed!)  Also, quite a few OBE directly from lucid dreams (forcing myself back to my body, and falling through my bed)  

I have had some life changing projections, as well as quick ones, and even some where I get slingshotted from my body uncontrollably once I exit.  My problem is quite oftem my projections, even though there is exit symptoms, and I know im awake before because I check the clock (slowly tilt my head) before I exit and verify it after, my OBEs are very dream like and I very often see people I know in real life, and it turns very quickly into a dream setting.  Kind of like a lucid dream, but exit sensations etc lead me to believe otherwise.

I am thinking that maybe I do actually exit, but because of my state of mind, maybe i drift back into my body very quickly and seamlessly enter a lucid dream or dream.

Please, any opinions?

Ben

Cezyl

You're in a great position to do some experiments to find out. Place a card somewhere without looking and get OBE and see if your perceptions are accurate, or meet with someone OBE:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16693

//www.cezyl.com/OBEs/partneredobe.htm

Cheers...

Cezyl

EnderZ

Quote from: blullSince I started APing about 5 months ago, I have had a very good many OBEs.  All of them, from waking up early in the morning, and projecting while I am still half asleep (but awake enough to look at the clock, and decide to try and fall through my bed!)  Also, quite a few OBE directly from lucid dreams (forcing myself back to my body, and falling through my bed)  

I have had some life changing projections, as well as quick ones, and even some where I get slingshotted from my body uncontrollably once I exit.  My problem is quite oftem my projections, even though there is exit symptoms, and I know im awake before because I check the clock (slowly tilt my head) before I exit and verify it after, my OBEs are very dream like and I very often see people I know in real life, and it turns very quickly into a dream setting.  Kind of like a lucid dream, but exit sensations etc lead me to believe otherwise.

I am thinking that maybe I do actually exit, but because of my state of mind, maybe i drift back into my body very quickly and seamlessly enter a lucid dream or dream.

Please, any opinions?

Ben

Could be reality fluctuations....
I'd say take a glance at the back of your hands when you feel it start to turn just into the least bit of a dream. That sends a pulse of energy to your physical and strengthens the conection.  Also talk yourself through what your doing, keeping a running commentary of things you are doing step by step so you wont get distracted by something.

-En

rowofmushytit

Quotetake a glance at the back of your hands when you feel it start to turn just into the least bit of a dream. That sends a pulse of energy to your physical and strengthens the connection

Yeah, this really works (nice to see your astral body and feel that rush of energy) - after you look up you might have noticed objects have moved or disappeared. You have to keep track of all the objects, and try rationalize if they are real, etc. I found that if you look at your hands too often however, then all the objects disappear!  Try looking at the sky - its beautiful and its not an object so it will not disappear.

I also have the problem of distinguishing AP from LD sometimes. Generally though, if i AP from a LD i end up back in my room out my body. But sometimes i return to my body from a LD, even though i don't remember leaving - maybe subconsciously. weird.
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Itinerant

I ran in to this problem last night, I was doing energy work and then suddenly I was looking around the room, somewhat disoriented . I looked up and this kid was waving at me frustrated like he was trying to get my attention and couldn't. It shocked me pretty bad to have some one standing there, and I snapped back in to physical reality.

My eyes were closed, but I could see the room perfectly as it really was (other than a slight blurriness) from the exact position I was physically seated in.  Had the same thing happen to me once before during meditation, but never considered it might be an AP up until now.

EnderZ

Quote from: ItinerantI ran in to this problem last night, I was doing energy work and then suddenly I was looking around the room, somewhat disoriented . I looked up and this kid was waving at me frustrated like he was trying to get my attention and couldn't. It shocked me pretty bad to have some one standing there, and I snapped back in to physical reality.

My eyes were closed, but I could see the room perfectly as it really was (other than a slight blurriness) from the exact position I was physically seated in.  Had the same thing happen to me once before during meditation, but never considered it might be an AP up until now.

Alot of similar things like that have happened to me.  My guess is just loosing awareness during the exit, and than gaining awarness again once your out. So for you, it seems like nothing has happened, but really, you're already out.

-En