Most recent event...might be valid

[Jeff_Mash]

As you'll hear from a lot of people on this forum, the main difference between a dream, a lucid dream, and an OBE/AP is your level of awareness.  

If you have a litte bit of awareness, then it seems your imagination fills in a lot of the detail/environment.  However, the more lucid you become, and the more awarenss you're able to harness, the more you can control the experience and travel to real astral realms.  When that happens, you're imagination doesn't seem to create as much around you (unless you allow it to).  

It reminds me of a fish in water.  If you put a fish in water, it will naturally swim...unless you trap it on all sides.  Your imagination, by nature, will wander and start creating all sorts of things, which is why you find yourself going from scene to scene in all kinds of dreams.  When you gain your full awareness, you more or less harness the imagination and become more stable.

So to answer your question, was this experience some sort of an OBE?  I would rephrase that to say, "Did I have the same awareness in this experience as I would have in an OBE?"  Only you could answer that one, my friend.


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Jeff Mash
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[OahnMacleod]

Thanks Jeff...

You are right. In reading a comment you made in http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=1999
you make a very good point. The events I witnessed were SO beyond what my normal imagination would have conjured. And in both experiences, it was very lucid and I was very aware, that is, in control, more than when you simply dreaming and are basically watching the events unfold.
The experiences were profound enough for me to make note of and affected me equally so. Hence, it is probably why I am now working to advance my ability with OOBE.
Thanks again...

Oahn

[OahnMacleod]

Yet another question? Sorry guys and gals, I have alot of questions as this is a new arena for me... : (

3 weeks ago I had a VERY lucid dream that was a bit unnerving to me. I wish to restate, until this past weekend, I have not been actively practicing nor desiring to learn about OOBE's routinely. I think it has been the universe at work that has been pushing me this way for some time and now I am finally getting around to acting on it.
In this lucid dream, I was in an exact copy of my home where my wife and I live now. I was being led down the hallway by these two smaller beings that wanted me to follow them. One was actually holding my right hand and push/pulling me down the hall, the other was near the top of the stairs waiting to help me down the stairs. I remember a feeling of apprehension and anger as I could not wake my wife and ask for her help against these 'little beings' Instead I used what my mind would think logically. Our bathroom is situated in the hall between our bedroom and stairway. As this being was on my right, I deliberately turned left and pulled away hard and said, "I have to pee..." and shut the door. The being looked at the other being down the hall as if, "What the ****?!" and I am now in my bathroom actually going pee. I opened the door and avoided eye contact with the little dude standing in front of me and turned right, back towards the bedroom and this time with more determination and not so lethargic as when I was being led out. The little guy pulled on me but I outweighed and outpowerd him and climbed back into bed near my wife. Ok, first part of experience. Second part. I hear yelling down the same hall, "GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT!" Sounded like a war was going on outside the front of our home. I was able to wake my wife this time and pulled on her to follow me down the hall, past the stairs and to the guest bedroom. As I looked out the front window, I saw what looked like SWAT teams kicking down the front door of the house and gaining entry to the downstairs. I told her, "Hold on!" as I opened the windown climbed out and told her to hold on to me as we climbed down. (I somehow created a ladder or something as we do not have proper exit ladder to get out in case of a fire in real life, I should probably get one). We got away from the home and heard all of this gunfire and yelling in the home and what sounded like some serious A**kicking on some people? The swat team came to the door, the first 2 guys carrying out something that looked like a bomb can, (big metal garbage can looking thing) and the other 4 dudes standing in the doorway with these big smirks on their faces, smiling at my wife and I. I looked them in the eyes and they were not the rough and tumble characters you see in most swat movies, no, these dudes looked more like the Angels you see singing in choirs, good looking, broad-shouldered look and something all too peaceful about their auras to be tough-guys. At that moment, something inside me know what just occurred and I remember hugging the one dude and saying, "Thank you, I know why you are here and I thank you for coming..." For you see, I believe now that they were perhaps guardians of sorts coming to take care of those 'little dudes' that were trying to lead me out earlier. Something I utter aloud in my home at many times to whoever might be listening is that, "If you are here of peaceful intent and love, then by all means, you are truly welcome..." And I mean it. I am the type of guy to give strangers a free meal. Just my nature.
SO! Being that this happened only 3 weeks ago and was a very powerful dream, enough to remember and wake with a "phew!, I'm tired" feeling, is it possible that this might have occurred on some OOBE level as well?
My thinking is that perhaps the universe had it in store for me to be delving into this at this time and these events were the natural course of awakening for me? Your feedback would be greatly appreciated as I am sure there is much I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks again...

Oahn