The threefold law

[Qaz_Azaran]

I tend to suspect that it doesn't in the manner that most people believe in.  I have on occasion done some things magickally that I am not proud of, and have never had any repercussions. I suspect that for the most part this view of balance tends to exist more in people's minds and from there affect reality as opposed to being an immutable law of magick. Now I do believe in karma, my various research into the nature of the soul does lead to the conclusion that for any mistakes we make and actions that we take we have to learn not to do them. This could be in the form of living a life with an abusive parent to learn about abuse after a previous life as an abuser. Or it could end up being simply that we learn the lessons another way.

I certainly believe in cause and effect, but I see no logical reason that causing harm or manipulating another has the effect of causing harm to you.

Like I said, karma seems to be about learning lessons. We each have any number of tasks and lessons we agree to work on before incarnating. And since the important thing is learning the lessons it probably comes down to whatever will help you learn the most effective way possible.

Any thoughts?

[You]

Not to my knowledge, I'm nice to dozens of people every day and the majority of people are still jerks, and yet they all make more money, so where's the threefold on that?

[mike001]

i posted somewhere sharing my "3 fold" experiences. i'll try and dig it up for you. yes it does exsist. the only thing i had done was, well let me start off my saying my fiance i was with for 8 years and had my daughter with left me for another guy who worked in walmart, which i was making huge$$$$ at the time and she left me for a guy who worked in walmart in just a week she was out of the house with him just after 1 week after being together for nearly 10 years and having a kid daughter with her. soo back to my magick, all i did was take away HIS and HER sex drives. they couldnt have sex nor get turned on for awhile until i gave it back. it drew up so much tension they started fighting geting crazy. then it backfired on me big time.,. i started having demons around me everywhere i went, doing terrable things. the brakes fell off my truck while on the free way(new truck at the time 2004) needless to say i had to give the sex drives back but the 3 fold still slapping me in the head. i went to a local psychic and asked what to do, she taught me to cleanse myself from all evil and shield at the same time. every since then it has decreased but never fully went away 100%. i am telling you it does exsist and nothing to play with,. it may depend on the person combined by the type of spell. for example if you use a love spell, forcing free will of a person(female) making her fall in love with you. the 3 fold will be her getting fatally obsessive with you, then trying to kill you it will get very damn scary. what specific spell have you been using. it maybe happening to you and you dont know it, maybe just the beginning, some excelerate from almost nothing to life threatning fear. what kind of spells have you been doing??? let me know and i can tell you possably whats is or what WILL happen.
take care,
Mike

[You]

So your life happens to deal with repercussions, it doesn't mean it exists, you just see it that way.

[beavis]

some website

Threefold Law of Return affirms karmic law: what you put out, good or bad, comes back to you threefold, in this or another lifetime.

Some similar effect does appear to exist, but 3*x is too simple? Why not 1.7*x + 4.1*x^2 or something more complex?

[Nita]

Hello Mike001
  You undo any magic that you did that is bringing repercussions upon you. I would suggest a ceremony on the day of Saturn which is Saturday. Undoing what you did and apologizing for it can be a big help.
        Nita

[mike001]

So your life happens to deal with repercussions, it doesn't mean it exists, you just see it that way.

no i didnt type out everything that just so happends to have happened exactly when i casted the spell..  it wasnt mental because i had NEVER heard of the 3-fold law. the reason why i know about it now is because of what happened to me. it would take me all damn day to type it out, the earlier post was just a long story short, but obviously people will not understand unless they know exactly what happened so it doesnt seem that way to them.  I am damn sure it DOES exist. i can see you seeing it that way about the "love spell" i was using as an example., but that was just an example, possibly a bad one. 3-fold isnt what it seems as far as coming directly toward you, but it is actually your life changing, almost like bad luck but alot worse, see what i am saying. cast a spell on your enemy make him go mad and drive off a cliff you will see exactly what i am talking about, but i am quite sure you wouldnt want to do that, right
anyway i am done explaining it, i told my part and thats it.
take care,
Mike001

[mike001]

Hello Mike001
  You undo any magic that you did that is bringing repercussions upon you. I would suggest a ceremony on the day of Saturn which is Saturday. Undoing what you did and apologizing for it can be a big help.
        Nita

thank you i appreciate your kind help. i sure did undo it about 2 weeks into it. it is strange people dont believe me when i say the damn thing exists. but they will believe what they want to believe

[Ater Corax]

If you believe in it, of course it's gonna affect you. That doesn't make it true for everyone else.

-Ater

[mike001]

If you believe in it, of course it's gonna affect you. That doesn't make it true for everyone else.

-Ater

did you read the part when i said i never even heard of the 3-fold law at the time of these occurrences..
anyway lol i am done arguing good luck everyone and lets not cast any dangerous spells now..
take care and have a nice day
Mike

[Ater Corax]

I believe in personal responsibility.

As for 'dangerous' spells, a good witch would know how to cast those successfully without any backfiring.

As for me, no, I don't go around casting 'dangerous' spells. But I wouldn't hesitate to cast such a spell if someone gave me a really good reason to. I still haven't met a person worthy of a curse.

Good luck with everything. I think it's great that you have boundaries or whatnot, but please stop playing the "occult police." If a witch is good enough to cast a successful spell, I think they can make their own moral judgments (which are a personal thing, anyway).

-Ater

PS: I find it a little hard to believe that you didn't at least hear of the 'threefold law' or 'karma' at the time all this happened (especially since 99% of magical books on the market at least mention one of them).

[Derangon]

Never happened for me... I don't believe in it. I'm not putting those limitations on myself. *Shrugs*