Change the world?

[JKK]

http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm

[no_leaf_clover]

I say yes! XD

[Kazbadan]

I dont get it: if i say yes i  am gonna see ufos?

That doesnt smell very good.

[manuel]

That's got lots of red flags springing up for me, I smell shenanigan's, aliens have there own agendas using lofty sounding words, they want to side track you and all, read between the lines, don't be dazzled by fancy technology, the more one relys on technology, the less they rely on spirituality, we cannot change the world as this goes against the 'games rules' the game, like ours on earth has certain rules, and you cannot alter the rules of the game while in play, so changing the world on such a scale is just not possible, the only thing you can change is not participating in the game and getting out of the game.

aliens love to trick earthers with technology, that they are spiritually more advanced, which is BS, they are on the sequential path, IE, they reincarnate over and over for billions of years and make extremely slow process, where as a earth-er higher self incarnates simultaneously, and can progress much, much faster, in fact we are more advanced than they, so keep your ears and eyes up with lofty sounding aliens.

[no_leaf_clover]

What could it hurt? They don't ask you to do anything but ask yourself a question. You can't go far beyond personal opinion when it comes to things like these, anyway.

I dont get it: if i say yes i am gonna see ufos?

That doesnt smell very good.

This is certainly what it suggests, if enough people want it to happen.

[Telos]

What a monstrously parasitic joke. If aliens existed, everyone would want them to show up. This is the same thing as Protestant Christianity and "accepting Jesus into your heart." Have faith that aliens exist and they will appear! Give me a [edit] break!

Why oh why do we build castles in the sky instead of here on Earth?

[MisterJingo]

Why oh why do we build castles in the sky instead of here on Earth?

Cause they're easier to maintain? ;p

Although i'm a believer that alien abduction and AP/sleep paralysis phenomena are in the same boat. I once had a very strange experience which I would class as under the UFO umbarella - so i'm slightly open minded on this subject.

[JKK]

well i would assume numerous sightings have gone up aroudn military areas because 'they' know whats going on (dont forget all the underground bases too)

maybe they're threatened by the constant advancements in weaponary and trying to trick people into wanting them to come so they can put a stop to it

or maybe they realize that these advancements are pointless in a world of peace(which should be one of, if not the ultimate goal obviously), and trying to make us realize our individual power, compared to living in a world where we live by our representitives and they hide many things from us that they just flat out don't have any interest in letting us know

i found this link originally here http://www.ufoarea.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=19

the follow up posts are pretty interesting there and may make things a little clearer

[RT]

The masses in constant chaos with diversions whatever they may be, but they can only distract for so long before we all tire and see the light.

[no_leaf_clover]

If aliens existed

You don't believe in aliens, Telos?

I still don't understand why such things are so mercilessly ridiculed by otherwise open-minded people when the probability of non-human intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is so great that it would require faith to not believe in it, while channeling by itself is also much more acceptable a topic. It's completely harmless to do what the page asks, whether you believe in any of it or not.  Nothing wrong with laughing your butt right down your legs, but ya don't have to be so cynical about it.

[Telos]

No_Leaf, no one should have to "believe" that aliens exist. That's having a truly open mind.

I am actually astounded that otherwise open minded people close their minds around the feeling that they need to believe in things in order to have them exist.

That is not opening yourself to possibilities of what already exists.

I'm sad. Just plain saddened - by people who have such curiosity and love for wonder but turn their attention away from the world. Just sad.

[manuel]

believing in them to exist?? sounds like a modern day jesus.

[Kazbadan]

If they exist they know what we want. They dont need a telepatich "yes".

This is ridiculous. I believe in ufos but i dont think that the one behind that messgae was an alien.

If he want us to believe on him he should give more proofs. I say yes, now i am waiting for ufos (i kno wthat i am not gonna see them...).

This kind of people behind such messages only ridicularize ufo phenomenon.

"Where are the proofs that you are saying the thruth (ie: you are an alien)?" Thats what i would like to ask to that guy.

Besides, that spiritual message its very typical. Anyone can make it.

DO you want a spiritual message that can change your life? Observe Budha teachings. They are, in my opinion, far away much more rich that this stupid messag. If you dont like bufhism you have other religions, other teachings and ideas.

Unfortunatly, internet is filled with lyars. Of course that the guy may be saying the truth, but with such quantity of lyars i bet that he is just one more. Its not me the one that needs to prove that he his lying: its him that must prove what he says.

I wanna end with 2 sentences related with this case:
"Great sayings call(need) for great proofs (or proves, dont know how to spell it)"- thats what said the great Carl Sagan.

Have an open mind, but not to much or your brains will fall down" (don t know who said that but its a funny one).

[patapouf]

I will not scream ''WOW'' if aliens decides to appear, I just question what kind of boring life they live; always stuck in their spaceship cruising around ''I don't know where''. To live a Star Trek kind of live is not what I called more evolved at all. I have also heard that they have supposedly messed up their DNAs because of too many manipulations and this is why they sometimes abduct people, how pathetic.... ''The spirituality of technology'' is not what we need here. But I think if this group have really good intentions; it is the worst time to appear because of the potential problems that it may create. People are are way too divided and not open-minded enough. We live in
Society of the Spectacle (read this folks, it is worth a read).

[no_leaf_clover]

Some people can actually associate events and facts and come to conclusions without having ever sensed something. It's called using your head.

I'm sad. Just plain saddened - by people who have such curiosity and love for wonder but turn their attention away from the world. Just sad.

You'd be surprised how deeply I'm saddened that people don't turn their love and wonder towards toilet paper. You guys are really missing out on how beautiful and wonderful toilet paper is. It's like, there's nothing else in the universe you should ever draw attention to - or even mention in simple posts on forums such as the Astral Pulse.

[Kazbadan]

Patapouf: you point something important: if the message its real (i dont believe it) who would want to live with boring aliens?

Why the hell would they think that can teach us spirituality? We have many spiritual teachings, why need more?

We are fine how we are. If we dont know to live with each other (we create wars with bo reason, let people dye by famine, disease, etc, etc) how could we socialize with aliens wich real intentions and objectives are hidden from us?

[Gandalf]

I tried reading it but fell asleep half way through... what a load of twoddle!

Doug

[patapouf]

We are fine how we are. If we don't know to live with each other (we create wars with bo reason, let people dye by famine, disease, etc, etc) how could we socialize with aliens which real intentions and objectives are hidden from us?

This is one of the really big problem with this encounter that we will have to face. They may have good intentions but do everyone will think the same? Many might not trust them and this may divide people in two different camps.

The only problem is that it is always presented in a ''spectacular'' kind of fashion. To me, it seems that they have evolved in the technological area, but as for the spiritual, they seemed to forgot about this part (which is presently in this direction we are heading.....). I wonder how they spiritually experience life if you live 500 years or always stay in a spaceship, redundancy will certainly come after some time.

The kind of thing that I do not really appreciate is that they put themselves ''superior'' to us and that we have to learn everything from them. And why should it be aliens that come  to say: ''You have to be compassionate to one another folks''. We all know that we have to do this..... Like you say Kazbadan, we have many spiritual teachers here.

who would want to live with boring aliens?

We can't really say if they are boring but from the mediatic representations that we have; it seems pretty boring: they all look the same, seems to have no personality (or all the same personality), etc.

Probably we can consider ourselves extremely lucky to live on this planet earth and I'm sure that many of them (if they exist ex: intra-terrestials)  will also argue the same. To feel all that nature and life have to offer to us is so great when we think about it.... So many things to learn. But, sadly, we cause so much suffering to ourselves that it might not be wise to add more to other living beings.

[Rob]

HHHhhhhmmmmm.......why would they transmit their message in French??!! And if it was done in French, then why not also make eloquent copies in every other language on the planet, since they are obviously so linguistically competant?

I think the bit at the top about it not mattering who wrote the text is telling, the author seems to be quietly justifying himself.

Still, be pretty cool if a whole fleet of UFO's turned up. Sure would make my day - that is, if they didn't then go around surgically extracting body parts from people like they do from cattle. That's be a real cramp.