Dreaming and hypnagogic imagery

[lucid dancer]

Yes, everyone experiences this state. It's a naturally phase you go through before falling asleep. There's also the hypnopompic stage: the dream images you experience before waking up.  I hope I didn't switch the words around. I often get them mixed up, because to me the states are very similar.  People usually don't recognize or don't remember the hypnogogic state, because it triggers sleep. You can train yourself to become more aware of your dream images.

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by SilverSlider:
How can you tell the difference between the dream state or if it is just hypnagogic imagery? Also, does every have hypnagogic imagery? becuase this morning was I think the first time I have ever seen it.

For me, I experience hynogogic imagery BEFORE going to sleep, or when I'm in a trance state.  They are usually fleeting images.  They come and go at will, sometimes lasting only a second....other times lasting longer.  There is usually no point to them, no theme or reason.  They may be colors, objects, or flashes of light.

The longer you drift through this mental state and dive further into it, the more these images become stable and realistic.  You'll start to border the astral realm and experience a three-dimensionalizing of the blackness into which you're looking.  If you reach that point, then you're very close to phasing over into the astral.



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[Bhikku]

I am getting really good at seeing and realizing the hypnatic images when falling asleep. Like before mentioned, I see shapes, colors and most recently writing that makes no sense. It's like I'm reading someones writing in a book, and I'm reading it fast, and I'm sure it's english, but the none of the words make sense. It's almost like they make sense to some other part of me, but not the waking conciousness that I'm seeing them with. Sometimes I can tell when I'm falling deeper into this state, and almost feel like I'm dreaming, and try to become lucid but I can't. BTW this gets mixed with my seeing through closed eyes sometimes too, so it's really confusing.

"The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness does not understand"

[Paukki]

quote:The longer you drift through this mental state and dive further into it, the more these images become stable and realistic.  

Ya, like just yesterday I was seeing one SSI (split-second image) and then another SSI, and generally the visual quality is poor and seems more "mental" than "sensory", but at the tail-end of the session I got a really VIVID SSI of a poster sitting on a floor and leaning against a wall, and the poster said in big, bold type at the top, "Toscanini", and had a bunch of smaller type writing , interspersed with larger type, below it.  (I had thought he was a classical composer, but a search on th' Net reminded me he was a famous syphony conductor).  

quote:You'll start to border the astral realm and experience a three-dimensionalizing of the blackness into which you're looking. If you reach that point, then you're very close to phasing over into the astral.  

That's the part I have trouble getting to.  One problem is time constraints--seems like I have to have at least an hour or so to start getting where I want to get, and then it's time for me to be getting up and getting on to something else in beta-land.  

--Paukki

[Meg]

Isn't it funny, there seems to be no rhyme or reason to these images -though I'm certain there symbology going down somewhere. Last night I saw an image of someone spray-painting the word "purple" on a wall... very odd.

So guys, how exactly do you get from this state into fully-fledged OBE?

Meg

"...listening like the orange tree..."  - John Shaw Neilson

[SilverSlider]

Alright, I THINK I'm starting to realize some hypnagogic imagery now but I need some verification. Like Paukki mentions, it seems to be more mental than sensory. Also, if I'm going to sleep and I start to see these things, then I wake back up again, I have a VERY hard time remembering what I was "seeing" (rather, thinking). Are these just random thoughts then, or is it hypnagogic imagery?

[SilverSlider]

How can you tell the difference between the dream state or if it is just hypnagogic imagery? Also, does every have hypnagogic imagery? becuase this morning was I think the first time I have ever seen it.